Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #5

[Spacegirl]

You are hereby accussed of READING MY MIND!
ITA! Cindy convincing GA to go along with this "noticed the pool ladder intact" scenerio as a pre-emptive stike to protect KC. Bravo. :clap::blowkiss:

Thanks, Ripley! I've read tons of your posts, and find myself agreeing with them all the time! :blowkiss:

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

George Anthony
Statement to LE
July24, 2008

(I wanted to refresh my memory as to what George said about the trunk/smell.)

LE: Do you remember what you told me?
GA: I, I, I believe that there's something dead back there and I hate to say the word human. Uhm, I, I hate to say that. As a matter of fact, when you were in court the other day you did not say that initially. You were led with that by the prosecutor. I, I caught that, I'm not too naive. So she led that in to be human decomposition. You did not say that, I know that as a fact, I've been around that. I mean the law enforcement stuff that I did, we caught people out in the woods, in a house, in a, in a car. So I know what it smells like, it's a smell that you never...
LE: Uh-huh
GA: ...never get rid of, when I first went there to pick up that vehicle I got within three feet of it I could smell something. You look up and you say, please don't let this be. Please don't let this be. Because may...I'm thinking of my daughter and granddaughter first. I glance in the car on the passenger side, I see her seats there and I see some other stuff around in it. And as I walk around to the driver's side and put the key in it, I said, please don't let this be what I think it is. The wrecker, I don't know what the gentleman's name, I still don't know I am sure you guys know it by now. But he, and I opened up the door and he said, "Whoa, does that stink." I said, I sat in the car for a second, I opened up the passenger door because I was trying to vent that thing.
LE: Yeah
GA: You know and I smell and I'm like, oh god. I tried to start the car for a second and I said, no George, if there's something wrong you got to find out now. You can't take it away. I told the guy, I said, will you please walk around to the back of this car and look inside this with me? As I walked around, I don't believe I said to him, you know, aloud and I, I think I whispered out to myself, "Please don't let this be my Caylee." That's what I thought. That's what I, my heart was saying. I opened it up and that's when I seen that bag. I did see a stain. I think its right about where the spare tire was at. Basketball size, or something around there. I don't know if its exactly circular.
LE: Was it where though? Was it where the bag was, or was it next to the bags?
Ga: I don't know. But the bag was on the, you know where the tail light is on the left hand side.
LE: (affirmative)
GA: The bag was centered more towards that area.
LE: So the bag wasn't on the stain? The stain was a different spot.
GA: It was, yeah(affirmative), it was, it was right over there. And as the guy, the guy reached inside himself and he says, "Oh, my god." And that's when I saw the, the pizza box. I saw what I believe were some kind of insect (sic)type things and then...
LE: So was the bag open? Was it pouring out on...
GA: No, no, no. The, bag was closed.
LE: Oh, okay.
GA: And then it was vented probably about the size of this can.
LE: Uh-hum
GA: And it had the ties on it.
LE: Oh, okay
GA: And I saw the uhm, Arm and Hammer lint, laundry detergent things. That's when I know like uh...
LE: Yeah
GA: Because that's something we use at our house, so...
LE: Right, the...
GA: So that's what I, I said. The guy said, "Sir, I'll take care of that. I'll get rid of it." But the smell never went away. When I drove around I told my wife, I said, this car stinks so bad I can't, I don't know how I can drive it home. It's, it's raining outside oh, well I have the windows down in the car probably about this much(inaudible). I couldn't freaking breathe. The air conditioning and stuff...
LE: Wat did your, what did your wife think about it being when she first noticed it? Did she actually notice it, or did she make any comments on it?
GA: Oh, after we pulled inside the garage she said, her exact words were, "Jesus Christ what died?" That's exactly what she said. But then she said it in a way, she says, "George, it was the pizza right?" And I said, yeah it was the pizza. And that's what I left it go at that, but, I'm sitting here as the grandfather, as the father, as George Anthony and as a guy who smelled the smell before years ago and you just never forget it. I even stuck my nose down on it and I'm, I'm concerned. So...

I just posted my theory RE: what Cindy and George think happened to Caylee and why they are being hinky called: my sketchy theory on this thread. These people think and act/react MUCH differently than I...but I had a mother who liked to "give you enough rope to hang yourself" and a father who cow towed to my mother: saying and doing things one way when she was around but contradicting all of that when she was gone. I think this is a part of the dynamic surrounding how/why George and Cindy have done all they have and why Casey was/is the way she is.

I think Casey had to be predisposed to a lack of sensitivity, or was very sensitive when young and had a patriarchal mother and that caused Casey's coldness. I have seen this in my own sister, she was sweet when she was very little but by six my mother had filled her with hate for everyone: especially my mother. My sister HATES my mother to this day.

I am one of the ones who say: they had to have known and they are terrible and all that...and I do feel that way...but I do understand on a psych level that this had to sink in: a mind wouldn't be able to accept what it knows it knows. I have to say again that how the Anthony's have handled this is all wrong to me and I find them frustrating and confusing at every turn.

...jmo...I:blowkiss:WS

 

[Chiquita71]

GA: ...my wife and I were brainstorming uh, all(inaudible) to our insight and I said, there's got to be more to this mess. She said, "George, do you remember that day I found the ladder down and also the gate?" I says, yeah.

Wouldn't it be funny if CA & GA just made up the whole "one day we came home and the ladder was down" story just to give Casey a possible accidental death scenario if/when a body was found?

I could see this convo happening between the A's-
C: Oh my god, what are we gonna do? Do you think she really would have harmed her on purpose? Wait.... do you remember that time the pool ladder was left down? And also the gate?
G: Umm.... I think maybe I do remember something like that. I'll tell LE tomorrow.

I'm not saying that Casey didn't drown little Caylee in the backyard pool, but if she did, I think she would have put the ladder back up. Don't mean to be graphic, but unless there was vomit in the pool, putting the ladder back up would be the only thing she would have to do to clean up. Surely she would have returned to the pool deck after putting the body in the trunk and surely she would have noticed it then. No, I think if she left it there, she left it there on purpose, and for the same reason the Anthony's would have made it up - just in case she ended up needing an accidental death story.

Personally, I think she did it in the comfort zone of her own bedroom. I have a privacy fence, and I wouldn't even get naked in my yard. Much less commit a heinous crime! Not that I would ever hurt anyone - you know what I mean though. It would take some serious guts. If she wanted to drown Caylee, all she would have to do is run her a bath and not have to risk (or even worry about) being seen or heard by anyone.

(Snip Respect Brooke1980)


I understand what you guys are saying. My mind just did not go that way. I think we agree that we are not getting the "whole truth" about the pool and what George and Cindy thought/or knew at any given time...especially now.

Obviously the gate being open and the ladder being up is a big deal at the Anthony home. If George and Cindy are telling the truth...someone left the gate open and the ladder up...does that mean it has anything to do with Caylee? I don't know. If they are telling the truth and they do not know why the gate/ladder was that way: then I would go back to my theory that they think this is what happend to Caylee(even barring the theory that Cindy is afraid that this is trouble for her). I think this is what they have decided in their minds happened and that Casey made up the story of the nanny to cover that she was so "irresponsible" as to leave open the pool to Caylee.

I agree with the poster who said to the effect: if Caylee did drown while Casey was distracted/whathaveyou...wouldn't she have covered her tracks by taking down the ladder and closing the gate? Saying it this way, it strikes me harder that 'someone' wanted 'someone' to think 'someone' had been swimming. Who else would this be a message to? A red flag? Only Cindy and George would say...huh? We NEVER leave the gate open or the ladder up ESPECIALLY because of Caylee. They think: "We all KNOW that..."

Updatedidn't want to post again in a row!) So the idea that Caylee was (sigh)killed at home might go with the idea that how Caylee died was less than kind and way more of Casey's fault or for whatever reason she thought it would be good to make it look like it had happened in the pool.

And, maybe George and Cindy thought it was the pool at first or were just guessing at anything they knew but later when they realized whatever Casey had done was super not good...they figured on staying with the pool story. Although this is nothing they speak of now...maybe they feel it is enough that it was ever brought up. I have to say that in reading George's July24th statement it seems that LE is very interested in the pool...they ask many questions that are all to determine what day Cindy and George noticed. Maybe, when Cindy first called LE and left the message late July15th, early morning 16th RE: the pool...they were still in the guessing stage. Cindy stated in her ZG depo that she had been reading discovery and she knew her stuff(paraphrased) and that makes me think that she saw how LE was talking so much about the pool and about how she had called about the pool and thought: hey...it's kind of what they must think anyway-why not give that to them. (I know what I meant by that but I hope it made sense to others)


Thanks!

...jmo...I:blowkiss:Websleuths

 

[Ripley007]

(Snip Respect Brooke1980)


I understand what you guys are saying. My mind just did not go that way. I think we agree that we are not getting the "whole truth" about the pool and what George and Cindy thought/or knew at any given time...especially now.

Obviously the gate being open and the ladder being up is a big deal at the Anthony home. If George and Cindy are telling the truth...someone left the gate open and the ladder up...does that mean it has anything to do with Caylee? I don't know. If they are telling the truth and they do not know why the gate/ladder was that way: then I would go back to my theory that they think this is what happend to Caylee(even barring the theory that Cindy is afraid that this is trouble for her). I think this is what they have decided in their minds happened and that Casey made up the story of the nanny to cover that she was so "irresponsible" as to leave open the pool to Caylee.

I agree with the poster who said to the effect: if Caylee did drown while Casey was distracted/whathaveyou...wouldn't she have covered her tracks by taking down the ladder and closing the gate? Saying it this way, it strikes me harder that 'someone' wanted 'someone' to think 'someone' had been swimming. Who else would this be a message to? A red flag? Only Cindy and George would say...huh? We NEVER leave the gate open or the ladder up ESPECIALLY because of Caylee. They think: "We all KNOW that..."


Thanks!

...jmo...I:blowkiss:Websleuths

Arhg...bottom line is: the Pool has Nothing to do with Nothing. It was being discussed here since the A's seem to be trying to find ways to cover their D's tracks...JMHO.

 

[Chiquita71]

Arhg...bottom line is: the Pool has Nothing to do with Nothing. It was being discussed here since the A's seem to be trying to find ways to cover their D's tracks...JMHO.

Thanks Ripley

I am behind you guys, obviously...and it was me that brought up the pool on this thread because it was a theory of mine along with what you said. The pool stuff just came up for me again tonight because of JG on NG saying LP told him the Anthonys were going to say he drown Caylee. When Brookes/your theory said that they were using the pool to cover up that hadn't even crossed my mind. I never thought wow they could be making that up! I have no problem with this being true, now I have to work it into my thought processes. Do you guys think when Cindy called LE while they were with Casey at Universal to give the pool info that they were planting this story for Casey? Were they saying that early that they thought Caylee was dead?

I admit my confusion is my own.

Thanks

...jmo...

 

[natsound]

hmmm. I would not put it past him to have gone into the lot in the night and take out a package from the trunk. before getting the car the following day. HE is that calculated.
Open Parking lot....Dark outside.
I also would not put it past him to drop off the package.
before he got home.
I am not saying he did that.
I am saying - I believe it is very possible.

I can also see - that the caliber of people involved with these foundations he is aligned with.
Someone told one of their non English speaking flunkies to go get a package in a car.

Well if there's an ounce of truth to your theory, I'm surprised police haven't picked up on it.

 

[songline]

Well if there's an ounce of truth to your theory, I'm surprised police haven't picked up on it.

Well in the dark there may be not evidence of that.
Maybe there is and it is being held close to the vest.
I hope much is being held close to the vest.
AS I know it the police does not tell you everything.

 

[Gma Kat]

The A's own lies have me convinced of the following: 1) KC left the evening of 6/15 with Caylee (it is possible Caylee was killed that night and Caylee left with her after GA & CA went to bed following the argument) or, more likely, KC stormed out with Caylee immediately following the argument. I am convinced that guilt is driving the lies for GA and CA to protect KC and that the night of 6/15 and events leading up thereto are the catalyst for whatever happened to Caylee. I have spent a lot of time looking at KC's eyes in the pictures we have seen. There is a change in a person's eyes after a traumatic event. To me there is a change in KC's eyes from the many party pics of her and then the pictures from Fusion (the only one we know was taken after Caylee disappeared I believe) I can't explain it, but I've seen that change so many times from my experience in LE. It's GA and CA's eyes that reveal their lies also. They are transparant to me. Nothing has convinced me more of KC's guilt than the family themselves. Their lies and half-truths (for which we have not found the truthful half....) have painted them all into a corner. IMHO

 

[songline]

The A's own lies have me convinced of the following: 1) KC left the evening of 6/15 with Caylee (it is possible Caylee was killed that night and Caylee left with her after GA & CA went to bed following the argument) or, more likely, KC stormed out with Caylee immediately following the argument. I am convinced that guilt is driving the lies for GA and CA to protect KC and that the night of 6/15 and events leading up thereto are the catalyst for whatever happened to Caylee. I have spent a lot of time looking at KC's eyes in the pictures we have seen. There is a change in a person's eyes after a traumatic event. To me there is a change in KC's eyes from the many party pics of her and then the pictures from Fusion (the only one we know was taken after Caylee disappeared I believe) I can't explain it, but I've seen that change so many times from my experience in LE. It's GA and CA's eyes that reveal their lies also. They are transparant to me. Nothing has convinced me more of KC's guilt than the family themselves. Their lies and half-truths (for which we have not found the truthful half....) have painted them all into a corner. IMHO

You are right about her eyes and what you see :clap:
You MAY be right about her guilt too.
I am leaving that open for now, the case is yet to come :blowkiss:

 

[natsound]

Well in the dark there may be not evidence of that.
Maybe there is and it is being held close to the vest.
I hope much is being held close to the vest.
AS I know it the police does not tell you everything.

If GA had taken Caylee's body out of the trunk to help KC and police had evidence of that, his a$$ would be arrested faster than lightning. And he wouldn't have thrown the body where it was found. That was KC's hiding place... it has her name written all over it.

 

[camcneishg]

This has been my line of thinking from the very beginning, If I can somehow clear my head of all the bs that has taken place since then, I may even believe myself! lol
CA and Caylee go to gpa's for father's day, come home, go swimming just like CA said. KC comes by to get Caylee, fight begins. Caylee drowns in pool as the two of them are fighting. I am thinking that CA prob tries CPR, too late. CA could NEVER go down as one NOT WATCHING her g-child, thus the lies and plans begin.....remember when CA says that KC thought it was "TOO COLD" to go swimming....bs- I live in FL, and it is never too cold in the month of June to go swimming.....and they are a bit further south than I...I think that the too cold comment was in reference to little Caylee's body. She handed her to KC, and she wrapped her up.....then the games begin. I do think that they buried her under the playhouse that night on Father's day. I do think that the "they" that KC refers to is the family. Maybe this is something just between CA and KC, haven't made up my mind on that yet....No one would miss that little one, other than her family. She really had no friends outside of that home. CA when on Greta brags about how crafty she is in making things, remember the wall hanging she bragged so about making KC for her baby shower. Thus the heart sticker. I just need to go back and see if this coincides with CA's vacation days.... The first phone call from jail "I saw your little cameo on tv"..."which one?"...."you don't know what my involvement is? NO!!"....."sweetheart"....they make me sick!! CA and GA looking under that playhouse before LE arrived......KC gets pissed over prob money, or lack of, comes home, digs up Caylee's little body, now what????? CA never mentions Caylee in that first 911 call.....the car is what ruined her little scheme....again, this is just my way of thinking. I need to go back to the beginning and look at it all again.....just wanted to share.

 

[camcneishg]

I also want to add that I am sure that CA was familiar with the Natalee Holloway case. Most mother's with a daughter close to the age of Natalee was very interested in this case. Beth Holloway spent a day or two with the A's.....CA and KC = PVDS and JVDS......lie, lie, lie...........

 

[Darla]

Casey alone, is responsible for the death and disposal (just like NG says - like she's trash) of that poor baby. Only God knows for sure why C & G are covering for their psycho daughter... JMO

 

[Baznme]

I feel Caylee DID drown in the pool. She may have (KC) put the ladder there, allowed Caylee to get into the pool......alone and watched her drown. All on the 16th when she knew the A's would not be there. She put the duct tape over her mouth to keep the water and fluids leaking from her lungs, mouth and nose after she drug her out of the pool and put her on the ground by the pool while she tried to call her parents. That didn't work as she never made contact with them, so she put her in the back yard behind the bamboo trees UNTIL she could figure out a better way. She knew she couldn't leave her there. I think she panicked in that she had realized she had actually done this and she forced a strength of "composure" as knew she had to get Caylee away from the house. To handle Caylee, she bagged her in the way that we're all familiar with and put her in the trunk. I think it wasn't until the 18th she slipped the garbage bags into the laundry bag, thus the leakage of fluids in the trunk. She had forgotten the ladder and gate at this point from her earlier scenario to look as though someone may have come in and taken her. With the pool ladder left on the side of the pool and the open gate, I'm convinced that was one of a few possible scenarios she was setting up in her mind.

I DO think all of it came to fruition as it was due to KC's becoming pre-occupied with her "priorities" and Caylee was pretty far down on that list. She had counted on Caylee to occupy herself as we have witnessed in footage of Caylee where the KC was behind the camera and does not interact with her, respond to her, encourage her or praise her. Things "appeared" different when Jojo and Cece were around, but children know when people are insincere and not consistent, thus explaining the expression on Caylee's face in so many pictures with KC. I was about to say "her mother" but couldn't bring myself to do that as this is no normal "mother". Yes, I think KC is a spoiled wrotten brat but I really do feel that this was a pool scenario. KC biggest accomplishment in her short life so far is the capacity to tell out and out lies........so well. To the point that she believes her own lies. This is from using this practice from the time she was very young and got away with it, time after time after time. She can claim "she's innocent" because it was not a deliberate act. She didn't actually do the deed in her mind, she just simply let it happen. She can diminish any remorse because this is not her fault. Not in her mind. JG's description of her being a "diabolical liar" is probably a little short of being accurate over her trail in the 22 years. Her enablers were the A's, of course as this behaviour is still going on. Guilt on the part of the A's. You betcha! They now see where all the turning of their heads got them. This is how she was raised. Kids need barriers, limitations, guidance. KC had none.

Even LA expressed his doubts in the car convo with TL that she may have done this. He later states that "he believes everything his sister tells him to this day" in the ZG depo because he knows those things are real to KC though not the real truth of what has happened here.

They've all pretended that things will just magically change with KC and she would become a responsible person that would become successful in society. After all, she was "pretty"............"Not just cute, but an absolute 10!" Ironic what they use to measure the success of a person as pretty is as pretty does.


KC said it best in her first conversation with Christine from jail. Christine asked her how is it that she isn't even upset that Caylee was missing. KC's comment was "I can't, I just can't! I have to be composed to talk to the investigators. Or something to that affect. She will do what she has to do to MAKE them believe what she needs them to. That's her modus operandi. That's the true sociopath at work here.

 

[Spacegirl]

She had counted on Caylee to occupy herself as we have witnessed in footage of Caylee where the KC was behind the camera and does not interact with her, respond to her, encourage her or praise her. Things "appeared" different when Jojo and Cece were around, but children know when people are insincere and not consistent, thus explaining the expression on Caylee's face in so many pictures with KC.

*Snip respect* Off topic but I just wanted to say that I think this is incredibly insightful.

She can claim "she's innocent" because it was not a deliberate act. She didn't actually do the deed in her mind, she just simply let it happen. She can diminish any remorse because this is not her fault. Not in her mind. JG's description of her being a "diabolical liar" is probably a little short of being accurate over her trail in the 22 years.

Your pool theory may be correct, but something tells me that KC would have very little to no remorse/regret no matter how she committed this crime, deliberate or not. I think no matter what she did to Caylee, no matter how unspeakable, she would have no problems with it. She trusts her judgement. She just hopes the ends justifies the means. She's really quite happy!

There's a ton of reasons why I think this, but for one, we know that she drove around with her dead body in the car for god knows how many days and nights. This tells me that she is pretty comfortable with the situation. It's almost like she may have enjoyed thinking about this crime. My gut tells me it was just laziness, but good god. A dead toddler in your trunk? I would sooner die. Also, look at the way she has treated every single person that has ever been good to her. No, the girl can't possibly feel remorse or guilt like the rest of us.

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*edit* I don't know if I explained myself right, but I do know what you're saying and I just see Casey as an entity with zero regrets/responsibility, no matter what. A normal person telling lies might need for half of it to be true in order to get it out of their mouths, but not Casey. She pulls them right out of you-know-where. She doesn't even need the people in her stories to be real.

 

[Baznme]

*Snip respect* Off topic but I just wanted to say that I think this is incredibly insightful.



Your pool theory may be correct, but something tells me that KC would have very little to no remorse/regret no matter how she committed this crime, deliberate or not. I think no matter what she did to Caylee, no matter how unspeakable, she has no problems with it. She trusts her judgement. She just hopes the ends justifies the means. She's really quite happy!

There's a ton of reasons why I think this, but for one, we know that she drove around with her dead body in the car for god knows how many days and nights. This tells me that she is pretty comfortable with the situation. It's almost like she may have enjoyed thinking about this crime. My gut tells me it was just laziness, but good god. A dead toddler in your trunk? I would sooner die.

Also, look at the way she has treated every single person that has ever been good to her. No, the girl can't possibly feel remorse or guilt like the rest of us.

I believe you mis-read my statement regarding KC's remorse. I meant that she was able to explain away the lack of remorse to Christine because she claimed she needed to be "composed" and annunciated that word when she said it. She is not a real person nor does she know how to be........much less a mother to a child.

 

[Spacegirl]

Oh, I'm confused. I thought you meant Casey was able to claim innocence/diminish remorse because in her mind she was just letting her drown, not doing the deed. Don't mind me. It's early.

 

[Baznme]

Oh, I'm confused. I thought you meant Casey was able to claim innocence/diminish remorse because in her mind she was just letting her drown, not doing the deed. Don't mind me. It's early.

In a way, that too! That's her forte - to twist the truth and make it what she wants to. I think maybe we are saying the same thing in two different ways. It's easy to diminish remorse when you don't have much to begin with.

 

[natsound]

Your pool theory may be correct, but something tells me that KC would have very little to no remorse/regret no matter how she committed this crime, deliberate or not. I think no matter what she did to Caylee, no matter how unspeakable, she would have no problems with it. She trusts her judgement. She just hopes the ends justifies the means. She's really quite happy!

There's a ton of reasons why I think this, but for one, we know that she drove around with her dead body in the car for god knows how many days and nights. This tells me that she is pretty comfortable with the situation. It's almost like she may have enjoyed thinking about this crime. My gut tells me it was just laziness, but good god. A dead toddler in your trunk? I would sooner die. Also, look at the way she has treated every single person that has ever been good to her. No, the girl can't possibly feel remorse or guilt like the rest of us.

ITA. I watched some of the indictment arrest on NG last night. It's baffling how this woman, who has no criminal history, can sit in that interrogation room, adjusting her shirt and hair, eating candy, sighing and looking around, like she's in the dentist's waiting room. She's just been indicted for her baby daughter's murder, and she's chuckling instead of shedding a tear. I think she's so used to getting away with her lies, that she thinks she's getting one over on the officers. Even when the officer with her says "there's a lot more than just speculation", she doesn't wince. Even then, she believed she was gonna get away with it. I wonder what she thinks now.

 

[Icky Etardo]

I had a theory before I read this thread, but while I was reading it, y'all brought up evidence that I didn't know about before and I changed my mind

Initially I thought that Caylee died by "accidental" death by trunk over the night of the 16th, when she was palling around with her new boyfriend Tony, who didn't want Caylee around. Casey wouldn't have taken the plea agreement, even though it was an "accident", because then she'd have to admit that she was a horrible mother who stashed her kid in the trunk when it was convenient. She might have gotten away with this all winter and maybe didn't realize quite how hot it was on the night of the 16th. I know here in California, when the temperature is 100 F during the day, and it drops to 78 F at night, we all say, "Thank goodness it's cooling off," even though 78 F really isn't "cool" at all.

However, then I learned that Casey didn't pack any extra clothes for Caylee before she left on the 16th. It seems to me that the most pleasure that Casey got from Caylee was using her as a big ol' Barbie doll, so not bringing the clothes was extremely out of character. Casey had either already killed Caylee or was planning to kill Caylee when she left the house on the 16th, so it was pointless for her to bring clothes for a corpse/future corpse. Now I don't think it was any kind of "accident" at all

I really don't think Cindi would have called the police at all if she knew Caylee was dead at Casey's hands. I think Cindi had bought into the whole nanny story and needed police intervention to get Caylee back. I can believe that calling the police was intended to force Casey to tell them where Caylee was. I think George had his suspicions but kept them to himself in order to avoid more tongue-lashings from Cindi. That's why I think the cover-up was so poorly executed: if George and Cindi had played a significant part in it, Caylee's body would never have been found.

Now I think that Casey simply smothered Caylee during the day on the 16th. I'm not sure if she did it in the house or not. I don't really believe George's revised "hugs and kisses" testimony that he gave on Nancy Grace---it's too "Leave It To Beaver" and sounds too out of character for George. After Casey smothered the girl (might have been done with the tape) Casey took Caylee out to the trunk and forgot about her for a few days. Finally she gets around to dealing with the little problem that's starting to stink up the car, and goes to the Anthony house to do it. She backs in and stashes Caylee's body in the playhouse for a while and looks around for a shovel, finally borrowing one from the neighbors. Obviously burying her was too difficult, I mean, that dirt is really hard and Casey might chip a nail or something! Casey switches to Plan B. She moves the body poolside, gets the ladder, and tosses the girl in. While poor Caylee is floating, Casey has second thoughts about Plan B. I'm almost positive that the whole ladder issue was something that Cindi lectured and nagged about continually, so maybe Casey envisioned this nagging, amplified and never-ending, for the rest of her life, and changed her mind. Maybe she thought back on all the episodes of CSI she watched and realized that the autopsy would show that Caylee didn't have any water in her lungs and died before she went in the water. She rejects Plan B. By this time she's a little panicky, since her plans aren't working out, so she forgets about the ladder and the gate when she drags Caylee back out of the pool. Caylee goes back in the trunk for a few days while Casey tries to think up a fool-proof Plan C. This Plan C never materializes, and by the 19th, Caylee is really starting to smell bad, so Casey ditches her in the woods near her house, which really isn't the most well-thought-out plan. She purposefully abandons the car, hoping she can claim later that someone stole it, in hopes of explaining the stench, but before that can happen, the tow-yard gets it.

I think George knew that Caylee died in the car the minute he smelled it, but he held his tongue. I figure he thought that what was done, was done, and there wasn't much he could do to protect Casey other than clean up the car. Cindi was just in denial about the whole thing until some time after she'd already called the police.

Anyway, that's my new, revised theory. If any of you can pick a hole in it here or there or give me more information that I don't know about, I'd appreciate it. Wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit if you did. Y'all seem a lot more knowledgeable about all of the evidence than I am.