The gas cans were probably set down in the backyard while GA was mowing. Also lack of shoes might indicate that KC did not feel Caylee needed shoes where she was going. jmo
And the gas cans coming from Casey's trunk, and BINGO! You have decomp in the yard.
Well from his actions, he certainly wasn't after the tire wedges, or KC handing over the gas cans would not have been enough for him to leave her alone. (apparently it was because I never remember hearing that he actually did get the tire wedges from KC or that there were even in the car when LE impounded it). So, I believe he at least lied to KC about the tire wedges but he either believed she had the gas cans in the trunk or he was curious about something else in her trunk. If the gas can incident happened on the 24th, that would have been approximately 8 days after death and 5 or 6 after the body was removed from KC's trunk. I think the decomp smell would have been in full force by that time - although I haven't researched this issue.
I don't think she was in a frenzy or rage or that it was an accident cover up in the spur of the moment. It takes time to think this up and then get the duct tape, cut those strips and place them. :banghead: I don't think someone in a fit of rage or panic comes up with that many steps. Thats why I think she had already planned how she was going to end any chance of CA getting Caylee. Maybe I'm wrong and but I can't even imagine a person doing that without planning it out. So I think SA will have to relay that in some way to the jury. jmo
BBM-This is exactly why it's considered premeditated murder. It takes time to get the duct tape, cut three to four pieces, place them on Caylee, then wait for her to slowly suffocate. Casey could have easily stopped at any point during this process and saved Caylee's life but she didn't. Even after putting the duct tape on her face she could have removed it, allowing her to live. She did not.
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Do you think George and Cindy cooked up a scheme to ambush KC on the 24th? Cindy knew she was coming into the house when she knew no one was there. KC called them both that day before going to the house, no answer..she opened the garage and surprise!, George was home. George then persisted to get near the car, in the trunk. I think he was being an investigator, not just looking for his tire wedges.
I think he was sleuthing her too, but I think the head commando CA was instigating it. I think he was more interested in what she was stealing from the house at that point, which prompted him to look in her trunk for gas cans etc., but then may have caught a whiff of the decomp in the process.My own personal theory is that George was very possibly "sleuthing" Casey, but more than likely without Cindy's knowledge or blessing. Her pattern prior to this suggests that she would have thwarted him at every turn and dissed him for not being "supportive" of his daughter. But I really think he was looking in that trunk for more than gas cans. Just my :twocents:!!
My gut says she was in the trunk the whole time and then to the woods, but I can't figure out why the cadaver dogs hit in the backyard. I personally think she borrowed the shovel and was going to bury her in the yard but changed her mind. I would think she would dig a hole before removing the body from the trunk in case anyone came, so it's hard to figure she had the body in the backyard at all, since she didn't dig a hole. It's mind boggling trying to fit the scenario together.
I think a shovel would have been a very awkward tool to use to lift a dead body the size of Caylee (in rigor or not), and to somehow guide it into a plastic bag. I definitely think the shovel was to dig a hole. I wonder if she borrowed a pair of CA's rubber cleaning gloves to handle the body and hosed them off in the backyard? I just can't see her doing this barehanded.I also have been thinking about the "manner of death" for this child. It doesn't make sense to me that if Caylee drown in the pool kc would duct tape her nose and mouth - except to contain purging liquids. That being the case, Caylee's facial skin and hair would have to be somewhat dry for the duct tape to stick to it when it was placed. I believe the child died at or near the time she was placed in the trunk of KC's car. The stain in the trunk did not have a lot of "movement" - in fact it was (imo) quite well defined. I believe KC kept Caylee's body in the trunk for 2 or 2 1/2 days, then she triple bagged her. This "messy job" would probably inspire KC to use the shovel as a lever to lift Caylee's body into the bag while still remaining in the trunk of the car. If kc put a bag over the shovel as well - there would be no need for rinsing off the shovel. If she didn't then she could have easily hosed it off in the back yard, and then dipped it in the pool to disinfect it - leaving it out to dry in the FL sun for 30 - 45 minutes could potentially dry out the wooden handle (?) - i am not sure due the humiditity there. I think kc was keeping the gas cans in the trunk to try and overcome the smell of the decomp fluids but this failed miserably and she got caught stealing the gas. (Random thought - I wonder what would have happened if GA had called the police officer who took the report of the stolen gas and told him they solved the mystery of the stolen gas but not the mystery of the missing baby and lying, stealing daughter)
I think he was sleuthing her too, but I think the head commando CA was instigating it. I think he was more interested in what she was stealing from the house at that point, which prompted him to look in her trunk for gas cans etc., but then may have caught a whiff of the decomp in the process.
That's what makes putting a theory together so difficult. As much as these people lie, it's like trying to pin jello to a wall.Maybe GA lied about the gas can incident. Maybe it never happened.
I understand. I was just thinking that even if she had the fleeting, irrational thought of burying her in the backyard, she would likely keep the body safely hidden away in the trunk until the hole was ready, not just lying in the yard until she was ready. I don't think she was in the backyard at all. Maybe she had to use the hose to clean something or herself after the disposal, leaving the decomp scent in the yard? Maybe Cindy contaminated something in the yard when cleaning out the trunk? Did she set items out there to air out because they stunk? So many what ifs..
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Since my theory is that Caylee did not die at home, I think she was in the trunk for some time without the garbage bags and canvas bag. I think that is when the child's outline occurred in the trunk liner staining and then she pulled the car into the garage on one of the occasions (18th maybe? when BB saw her) to put Caylee in the bags. It would have been messy so she perhaps had to wash herself out in the back with the garden hose? Possible.
Im with ya That sounds about just right to me. I just cannot for the life of me think how or where she actually killed the baby maybe my mind doesnt want to go there nothing I have thought about makes any sense as to how she actually did the deed. I do think she put the duct tape on to make it look like a kidnapping but i could be totally wrong maybe it needs a sociopathic minds to work her out. idk lol I know im not a sociopath but not saying im not a little nuts at times but im just stumped as to how and where