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Terri received a $1000 in child support for "one" child (J****)? Do you have a link to support that?
I didn't say that...
Terri received a $1000 in child support for "one" child (J****)? Do you have a link to support that?
Terri received a $1000 in child support for "one" child (J****)? Do you have a link to support that?
I didn't say that...
Is there a question whether these emails are actually Terri's? Intense hatred for a little innocent child, that is MISSING, and there is still doubt if shes guilty? Intense hatred for a little adorable boy is probably one of the most evil things I have ever read. I cant just chalk this up to, oh well hope I dont get in trouble and send an email when mad, I mean wow, this is not a normal thought process, I mean jealousy of a child? And the child is missing? And shes flunking lie detectors, and withdraws visitation requests for her daughter... This gets more sinister every day, thats for sure.
About custody: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html
"In mid-December 2002, Terri and J**** moved into his house in Aloha, Kaine said.
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Court records show that Desiree had primary custody of Kyron after her divorce with Kaine in early 2003. Both Kaine and Desiree said they worked out a joint arrangement: Kyron stayed with Desiree at night, was in day care and then spent two hours every afternoon at the Aloha house where Terri, Kaine and J**** were living.
In 2004, when Desiree moved to Canada to seek medical treatment, Kaine gained custody of his son. He said he was primary caretaker, dropping Kyron off at day care and picking him up."
Sorry...I thought you had seen that that was what she was getting in child support for one child which would be on the high side...very high side...of course dependent upon the fathers income.
I think the norm is probably around $500 & below...
The same way one becomes an expert in "ADD, ADHD, ODD, OSC, YSC, Prader Willy, Down Syndrome and Medically Fragile."
http://www.linkedin.com/in/terrihorman
I'm confused about a statement DY made on Good Morning America...
she says, "on a couple of different occasions Terri had called me specifically so that I could talk to Kyron because he was so upset, and Terri personally wanted me to take Kyron"
I don't understand why TH would call DY to talk to Kyron and comfort him if TH was responsible for upsetting him. Does that make any sense?
Would you call your step-son's mother so she could talk to him if you were abusing him (emotionally, verbally)?
I suspect you're right about LE trying to get KH and DY prepared for a "no body" homicide case.
A parent like Desiree, who is expresses herself eloquently, gives off a sense of emotional honesty, etc, could torpedo a "no body" case if she got on the stand and testified that she believes Kyron is still alive.
Something somewhat similar happened in the Johnny Gosch case. His mother got on the stand in the trial of a man who was believed to be part of a pedophile ring and testified, very sincerely, that she believed her son is still alive because he visited her in the middle of the night (when he would have been 28 years old). That testimony brought down the prosecution case.
I have no doubt Johnny's mother believes it. But I'm certainly not alone in thinking that she is nearly alone in her beliefs, which strain credulity to the utmost.
For DY's sake, I wish KH had done her the courtesy of providing her with copies of his court filings before they hit the media. When she said she had found out all this via the media, my heart clenched for her. I can only imagine the pain she goes through every evening as she wonders what she'll find out via the evening news (or worse, from a reporter asking her "and what is your reaction to X, Y and Z?" when she had never heard X, Y or Z previously).
"In January 2002, Horman and Ecker were divorced. She got primary custody of James and the decree included an informal agreement that Ecker would pay about $169 a month in child support.
A year later, Horman went to Washington County authorities, asking for more child support. His payments were bumped up to nearly $550 a month. Ecker went to Horman's house to ask for a break on child support, saying the payments were cutting a big chunk out of his salary. She seemed amenable to a reduction, he said, but the next day he got a call from the Washington County Sheriff's Office, telling him to stop harassing his ex-wife."
Three things:
1. She moved in with Kaine in December of 2002.
2. She received a significant increase in child support to 550.00 a month in January 2003.
3. Terri called the police a lot, it seems.
In her 4/6/10 email, she says the $1000 was child support and unemployment--
http://www.katu.com/news/local/108352154.html?
No, these emails have not been released. They were discussed by Kyron's biological mother Desiree on the Today Show. If you scroll back a few pages you can find the link to her interview.
I am the same way, I think I may expect too much from a man, but I am the same.
My mom was stay at home, and I always wished I could be. Yes, my mom felt trapped sometimes, maybe she wanted to get out more, get a job at times of boredom, and yes, she said these same types of things. She was just venting during times of frustration, and meant no harm to anyone.
"In January 2002, Horman and Ecker were divorced. She got primary custody of J and the decree included an informal agreement that Ecker would pay about $169 a month in child support.
A year later, Horman went to Washington County authorities, asking for more child support. His payments were bumped up to nearly $550 a month. Ecker went to Horman's house to ask for a break on child support, saying the payments were cutting a big chunk out of his salary. She seemed amenable to a reduction, he said, but the next day he got a call from the Washington County Sheriff's Office, telling him to stop harassing his ex-wife."
Three things:
1. She moved in with Kaine in December of 2002.
2. She received a significant increase in child support to 550.00 a month in January 2003.
3. Terri called the police a lot, it seems.
Once again, if this were just a matter of discussing this one email, I would agree completely. Things look so much better fir Terri when we pull them out of the muck, clean em up , and look at them in isolation.
Lots of people here faulting Terri for complaining but, let's be real, isn't this what women do? (WARNING: This post is payback for all of the "men are clueless horndogs" posts on the other thread.) My wife has a very comfortable life, 3 great kids and a prince of a husband. But no marriage is without its occasional bumps in the road and no person is perfect, so when she gets angry with me about something, you can be sure that at some point she will vent a litany of every flaw I have ever exhibited and every misstep I have ever made in the past 20+ years. I hear it and I'm sure her girlfriends hear it too. I've heard my wife's friends vent about their husbands in the same way. I've always just accepted that most women never forget a man's failing, real or imagined, they just add it to the list that gets pulled out and reviewed whenever the need arises. So let's see a show of hands, how many of the ladies here have never made a "20 Things I Hate About You" list regarding their man or have never vented those items to a friend?
EDIT: Sorry, forgot to make my real point: sometimes venting is just venting, just because a woman may keep such a list doesn't mean that list governs her relationship with her man every day. We vent, and, most of the time, we move on.
Truer words were never spoken, you just can't take isolated statements or actions, without any knowledge of the context, spin a story around them and expect to arrive at a real depiction.
All I can say is that I would never, ever, be with a man who thinks so little of my education, my person, my mommy skills, that I would have to pay him to be a stay-at-home mom. Would never be interested in a man who needs to keep all material possessions in his name only, with no thought as to my future.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom and us children talk all the time about how lucky we were.
Could it be that Terri was thinking the same way? my opinion