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That would be wonderful !
Although wouldn't they have some way to signal someone, like flares ?
Or have a tracking device on the sub that could be picked up once they're on the surface ?
Titanic tourist sub goes missing in Atlantic Ocean, June 2023
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That would be wonderful !
Although wouldn't they have some way to signal someone, like flares ?
Or have a tracking device on the sub that could be picked up once they're on the surface ?
Havent finished catching up, so this may have been answered. This is true.
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Sadly, I agree. But I wholly support aggressive surveillance of the surface of the ocean, especially knowing there could have been at lease 96 hours of oxygen left. If they are caught up in the wreck of the Titanic, there are only a very few ocean rescue vehicles that could go down and bring the sub up.
IMO, if there was a catastrophic failure of the subs outside walls or power system, I feel the pressure alone would disintegrate most of the wreckage, making it very hard to find.
That said, many prayers for all of the people on board and their families.
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I'm not sure if that's true or not, but it would have imploded rather than exploded. I also don't know if that would make any difference as far as the sounds generated, but I think it might??
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What vessels are capable of bringing them up? My understanding is that there are no vessels with that ability.
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Pogue: Missing Titanic tour submarine ‘constantly plagued by mechanical errors’ | NewsNation Now
Here is a video interview with David Pogue from today. He talks about what it was like when he went on the expedition last year as a jounalist. (He's clearly being sought out by all of the media right now.)
I found it interesting that he said that all submersibles break down regularly. For this expedition they regularly stay out at the site for 5 days and they may only successfully make it down to the Titanic once in 5 tries, for a variety of reasons. He himself did not make it down successfully. The trip from the ship on the surface, down to the Titanic and back takes about 10 hours, allowing for time heading down; exploring the Titanic; and back up. (I've seen others say it only takes 2-3 hours to get down.)
Here is a video interview with David Pogue from today. He talks about what it was like when he went on the expedition last year as a jounalist. (He's clearly being sought out by all of the media right now.)
I found it interesting that he said that all submersibles break down regularly. For this expedition they regularly stay out at the site for 5 days and they may only successfully make it down to the Titanic once in 5 tries, for a variety of reasons. He himself did not make it down successfully. The trip from the ship on the surface, down to the Titanic and back takes about 10 hours, allowing for time heading down; exploring the Titanic; and back up. (I've seen others say it only takes 2-3 hours to get down.)
The wreckage would be there, it just may not be recognizable. Kind of like crushing a soda can, it would squeeze to the point something gives, like a hatch popping off. A flat piece of steel would remain flat, but if there was a cavity inside something, it squeezes till the cavity is gone.
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Does anyone know how quickly the small sub could travel in the 1.5 to 1.75 hours it traveled before losing contact with the surface? I was wondering if it could have made it clear to the Titanic wreckage in that time?
They say the average trip to the Titanic from the surface in that sub is about 2 hours.
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An earlier article said that it reaches the Titanic in 2 hrs.
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I agree, at that depth, I don't see a feasible recovery plan.
IMO, the hope is that they have floated up to the surface and they will be located by the reconnaissance aircraft soon.
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Thank you. So, they weren't likely to have gotten caught up in the wreckage in that amount of time, at least not the wreckage of the Titanic??
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JUST IN. A submersible craft used to take people to see the wreck of the Titanic has disappeared in the Atlantic Ocean with its crew on board, sparking a major search and rescue operation. The missing craft holds five people and dives with a four-day supply of oxygen.
Jumping on #WFLANow to discuss the missing Titantic submersible. Stop on by.
IG Post from civilian aboard the missing submersible (Capt. Hamish Harding)
This is great background on the submersible, the mission and everything in between for the #Titanic expedition.
Jumping on #WFLANow to discuss the missing Titantic submersible. Stop on by.
IG Post from civilian aboard the missing submersible (Capt. Hamish Harding)
This is great background on the submersible, the mission and everything in between for the #Titanic expedition.
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SOON. There will be a live news conference from WBTS at 4:30 p.m. EDT by Coast Guard Rear Admiral John Mauger on the search for a submersible vessel missing 900 miles from Cape Cod. The vessel was part of a tour of the #Titanic wreckage site with five people on board.
Search area is 900 miles east of Cape Cod in a very remote area - about 13,000 feet below surface. Two C-130 (US/Canada) are searching from air with several other assets in/on the water.
Interesting detail: A spokesman for the U.S. Coast Guard, speaking to reporters, said that the last reported communication from the submersible was about an hour and 45 minutes into its dive.
Search area is 900 miles east of Cape Cod in a very remote area - about 13,000 feet below surface. Two C-130 (US/Canada) are searching from air with several other assets in/on the water.
Interesting detail: A spokesman for the U.S. Coast Guard, speaking to reporters, said that the last reported communication from the submersible was about an hour and 45 minutes into its dive.
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Images of the Titan submersible preparing for its dive to the #Titanic as well as images after it began it's dive. Coast Card says it had last communication 1 hour 45 minutes after this dive. (Images via Action Aviation/IG)
Representative (NY) and former Navy Submarine Officer Brandon Williams calling for nuclear submarine support in search of #Titan submersible.
Diver and explorer Rory Golden posted to Facebook about being on the Titanic expedition and asking readers to "...think positive. We are." (via rory.golden.39/FB)
Representative (NY) and former Navy Submarine Officer Brandon Williams calling for nuclear submarine support in search of #Titan submersible.
Diver and explorer Rory Golden posted to Facebook about being on the Titanic expedition and asking readers to "...think positive. We are." (via rory.golden.39/FB)
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Last communication was an hour and 45 minutes in so they would be close at least, if I'm understanding correctly
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As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, why wasn't the sub simply painted neon colors, maybe even reflective colors.
I guess hindsight is always 20/20
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HOV Alvin from Woods Hole that found the Titanic was mentioned in the article. And one from the Navy.
Submersible scientist fears OceanGate may have suffered catastrophic implosion: 'Deeply worrisome'
Submersible scientist Steve Somlyody fears the OceanGate, a deep-sea vehicle used to explore the wreckage of the Titanic, may have suffered a catastrophic implosion.
MY APOLOGIES!!! I read your post wrong, now I see it says "bring up"
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A journalist who travelled aboard a tourist submersible that has now gone missing during a Titanic wreck dive says it would be impossible for those inside it now to escape without help.
The craft went missing in the Atlantic Ocean on Sunday, prompting a major search and rescue operation.
CBS correspondent David Pogue made the trip last year and wrote an account of his experience.
He said it would be challenging for rescuers to find the vessel in time.
Speaking to the BBC on Monday, Pogue explained that passengers were sealed inside the main capsule by several bolts that were applied from the outside and had to be removed by an external crew.
He told The Context programme that the craft, which is believed to be OceanGate's Titan submersible, had seven different functions to allow it to resurface and that it was "really concerning" none of these had so far worked.
However, Pogue said the vessel's resurfacing capabilities would be irrelevant if the sub became trapped or sprang a leak.
"There's no backup, there's no escape pod," he said. "It's get to the surface or die".
Watch: BBC interview with David Pogue.
The craft went missing in the Atlantic Ocean on Sunday, prompting a major search and rescue operation.
CBS correspondent David Pogue made the trip last year and wrote an account of his experience.
He said it would be challenging for rescuers to find the vessel in time.
Speaking to the BBC on Monday, Pogue explained that passengers were sealed inside the main capsule by several bolts that were applied from the outside and had to be removed by an external crew.
He told The Context programme that the craft, which is believed to be OceanGate's Titan submersible, had seven different functions to allow it to resurface and that it was "really concerning" none of these had so far worked.
However, Pogue said the vessel's resurfacing capabilities would be irrelevant if the sub became trapped or sprang a leak.
"There's no backup, there's no escape pod," he said. "It's get to the surface or die".
Titanic tourist submersible: My trip aboard the sub
CBS journalist David Pogue says it will be challenging for rescuers to find the vessel in time.
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Watch: BBC interview with David Pogue.
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