Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

[Sundog]

The pro

a chip maybe?

The problem is that in this case with CA-H, he had completed his sentence, he wasn't on parole, so he couldn't be monitored. The social contract, so to speak, is that if you do a crime, you do your time, and then are free. We can't monitor people who have completed their sentence.

If we want to change the process, then it needs to happen with regard to sentencing requirements/laws.

 

[Seattle1]

Kerry Hayes

@KerryCoeo


#MEMPHIS MEDIA:
@SteveMulroy901
will be available to answer questions following the hearing on the #ElizaFletcher case this morning at 201 Poplar Avenue.


5:41 AM · Sep 8, 2022·

 

[Tracey4AU]

Went back and watched the hearing from the beginning. The public defender had not asked to be removed from the case, but wanted the judge to review some information and make a ruling as to whether she should be removed "out of abundance of caution" as to if there's a conflict of interest. Judge stated this was based on the public defender's office representing CA(H)? previously (2001). In that case, he plead guilty (with representation by public defender).

The judge stated based on his review, there is no conflict of interest and she can remain as his attorney.

 

[Seattle1]

Shelby County District Attorney’s Office

@ShelbyCountyDA


This AM in an interview I erroneously reported that Cleo Abston/Henderson, defendant in the Liza Fletcher case, was paroled from his prior kidnapping charge; he was released early from his original 24-year sentence, but not due to action by the Parole Board. I regret the error.


11:54 AM · Sep 7, 2022

 

[Tracey4AU]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567882395507908610

 

[Zoe]

LIVE: Suspect in Eliza Fletcher case faces judge again

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Cleotha Abston-Henderson, the suspect in the anduction and murder of Memphis teacher Eliza Fletcher, appeared in court for a third time in three days Thursday morning. Judge Montes…

wreg.com

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Cleotha Abston-Henderson, the suspect in the anduction and murder of Memphis teacher Eliza Fletcher, appeared in court for a third time in three days Thursday morning.

Judge Montesi said it was brought to the court’s attention there may be a conflict of interest, and there was a motion to review the appointed public defender. The Shelby County Public Defenders Office in 2001 represented Abston-Henderson when he entered a guilty plea.

However Judge Montesi said there is “no reason” to disqualify the public defender. She will represent Cleotha Abston-Henderson.

The public defender requested a gag order, saying Memphis Police Chief Chief CJ Davis referred to Abston-Henderson as a “dangerous predator.”

The case is now set. Monday, Sept. 19 will be the next report date. Abston-Henderson was held with no bond. He was escorted out, flanked by deputies.

 

[wary]

We are currently arguing a rezoning request in my community about ex cons. One of the problems is when a person, such as CA, gets out of prison they are a free citizen with no monitoring required since he wasn't on parole. He was a disaster waiting to happen. JMO

Well, look at it this way. What good would parole have done? On the surface, he seemed to be integrating back into society. Had a place to live, a legit job. He’s not going to tell the parole officer that in his spare time he goes out stalking women. (Assuming that he did.)

 

[Tower]

I suspect the incidence of this would be close to nil. On websleuths, there are multiple threads on women jogging who did not return home. Women who jog and return uneventfully don't get threads. In fact, EF had apparently jogged this route many times with no reported events. The odds of a single observed jogger being followed by a strange vehicle at any given time is very small. The anecdotal experience of websleuths posters is skewed since many are here because of personal experience with violent crime or the experiences of family members or friends. My personal anecdotal experience is that I have known more female joggers killed by drunk lawyers in traffic accidents (1) than women who have been assaulted while jogging (0).
I live in a high-crime county and there have been no results of women missing while jogging, and there are a lot of joggers in my neighborhood. I am not aware of any missing female joggers in surrounding counties or states. I know there is a similar case in Atlanta (population around 5 million). The perception that it is somehow now open season on female joggers is not backed by objective facts. This was a horrible crime, but in a country with over 150 million women, abducted joggers are a very small group. Women are still much more likely to be victims of people they know

In perspective, prior to the 24 hour news cycle and internet fora, the overwhelming majority of us would have never heard of this horrible crime.

Thank you. It is SO important to maintain perspective, in spite of this heartbreaking and maddening crime.

I am far more likely, by order of thousands (millions?), to die of obesity, depression, heart disease, diabetes or stroke if I DON’T run, than die of violence if I do. Yes, I take many precautions, but to live indoors and wrap myself in bubble wrap is not a reasonable option.

Odds of Dying - Injury Facts

Knowing the odds of dying is the first step in beating them. New 2021 data shows the risks from plane crashes, guns, falls and more.

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https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

Edit: I’ve been posting for 7 years and I still can’t format.

 

[Sundog]

I guess CA-H's medical issue wasn't that serious, as he was able to appear in court today.

 

[Only4Justice]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but, if you view the full size pic, her feet aren't even touching the ground. It's so cute, she looks like a Disney fairy. Which is adorable, and heartbreaking. My heart just aches for her loved ones.

I keep thinking about her last moments. What a monster.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Well, look at it this way. What good would parole have done? On the surface, he seemed to be integrating back into society. Had a place to live, a legit job. He’s not going to tell the parole officer that in his spare time he goes out stalking women. (Assuming that he did.)

I dont think it would have done a bit of good.

 

[JoeFromLB]

I didn't see the hearing this morning but someone commented he wasn't cuffed or shackled? What's up with that?! This is standard procedure for violent criminals charged with heinous crimes such as this one. Maybe Tennessee does things differently? He should be restrained, imo.

 

[sunshineray]

At age 14 this suspect raped someone, most likely another child (male), younger and smaller than him. And probably not his first sex offense. This means that the suspect most likely was also a victim of SA at a young age. Once the brain has been miswired, violence is part of sexual development, impossible to undo, and difficult to control. He then committed more violent crimes and at 16, was in long-term incarceration. Who knows what sexual violence he saw, did, and experienced while in juvenile/prison.

If the public, lawmakers, judges, etc, don't get this, we won't have the fortitude to do what is necessary to protect the public, especially females and children.
This is not an issue of mental illness, misdirected anger, rehabilitation, lack of treatment etc.
This is about sexual gratification, only satisfied by violence, murder and/or inflicting pain, injury, and terror on the victim.
The hesitancy to exert lifetime controls for all sex offenders needs to be overcome. MOO

The Serial Killer and Sexuality

The psychological forces that animate the unfathomable actions of a serial killer.

www.psychologytoday.com

Eliza Fletcher murder suspect Cleotha Abston's violent history of rape, assault and kidnapping explained

Cleotha Abston-Henderson, suspect in the kidnapping and murder of Memphis mother and teacher Eliza Fletcher, has a long history of violent crimes.

www.foxnews.com

When the abuser is a child, too

The criminal justice system is failing children convicted of child sex abuse, Hopkins researchers say

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"...the suspect most likely was also a victim of SA at a young age. Once the brain has been miswired, violence is part of sexual development, impossible to undo, and difficult to control..."

I disagree. I know, unfortunately, multiple people SA-ed as young children who have gone on to become exactly the opposite adults than CA. IMO, the brain becoming "miswired" has everything to do with the disregard of injury and lack of concern of the adults around that child and NOT the actual trauma of the assault. That's what inhibits SA victims from healing, living and loving in a healthy way. MHO

 

[Ontario Mom]

I didn't see the hearing this morning but someone commented he wasn't cuffed or shackled? What's up with that?! This is standard procedure for violent criminals charged with heinous crimes such as this one. Maybe Tennessee does things differently? He should be restrained, imo.

He was most certainly NOT handcuffed. Both hands were free, the entire time he was in court.

 

[sunshineray]

He was most certainly NOT handcuffed. Both hands were free, the entire time he was in court.

Weren't his hands free at the first arraignment? Judge had him raise his right hand to swear that everything in his affidavit was true...that he couldn't afford an attorney etc...

 

[youngsleuther]

i couldn't watch the hearing.
if someone did can you please summarise the main points?

 

[Skigirl]

I have been reviewing cases of missing women in the Memphis area. There are several...in this particular case, the spouse expected his wife home at a specific time. He asked someone to check her route. The fact that the kidnapping was realized so fast was the evidence left, a cracked cellphone, shoes, possibly blood...if the perpetrator had not left so much evidence of an obvious crime, if the victim had been single, unemployed, maybe a few days could have gone by without reporting her missing.

RSBM, BBM

Was the person her husband asked to check her route the same one who found her phone and the slides? That would certainly make a lot of sense. I've been puzzling over how anyone knew to turn those items over to him.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

I didn't see the hearing this morning but someone commented he wasn't cuffed or shackled? What's up with that?! This is standard procedure for violent criminals charged with heinous crimes such as this one. Maybe Tennessee does things differently? He should be restrained, imo.

"...the suspect most likely was also a victim of SA at a young age. Once the brain has been miswired, violence is part of sexual development, impossible to undo, and difficult to control..."

I disagree. I know, unfortunately, multiple people SA-ed as young children who have gone on to become exactly the opposite adults than CA. IMO, the brain becoming "miswired" has everything to do with the disregard of injury and lack of concern of the adults around that child and NOT the actual trauma of the assault. That's what inhibits SA victims from healing, living and loving in a healthy way. MHO

Not all SA victims get sexual development linked to violence, many are never offenders.

I'm talking about offenders, not survivors who never offend.

The point is he was a predator at age 14, a STRONG indicator that he was a SA victim and his sexual development was affected. He sure the heck didn't have any treatment for any crimes visited upon him. He was a career criminal starting at age 11.
Tim Bundy was a violent sexual offender, his sexual gratification depended on murdering his victims, something happened during his development, in the womb, in his childhood, not treatable.

 

[Bhodie]

actually, the APA and NIH both estimate that less than 20% of ALL violent crimes are committed by people with mental illness...people with mental illness are far more likely to be victims of crime than perpetrators...

there are some people in this world who are just devoid of humanity and have no regard for the rights, property and lives of others...and it is completely unfair that they make the world unsafe for the rest of us...

I was only speaking of murder and homicide of convicted individuals perhaps I should have been clearer, I do apologize.

Mental disorder and clinical care in people convicted of homicide: national clinical survey

To estimate the rate of mental disorder in those convicted of homicide and to examine the social and clinical characteristics of those with a history of contact with psychiatric services.National clinical survey.England and Wales.Eighteen month sample ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Only4Justice]

So, it's not just me then. Hopefully somebody else has a better link or will get details/transcript soon.

He doesn't appear to be in cuffs here.

It looked like his arms were tied behind his back. I couldn’t hear it well either.