TN - Joann, 31, & Adrienne Bain, 14, Whiteville, 27 April 2012 - #3

[JeannieC]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171583&highlight=joann+bain+information

Link to timeline, information, and links

 

[epiphany]

What RAGE would make AM plan this murder of a young woman and a 14 year old girl?
I guess I can see the kidknapping of 2 children if you think they are yours. But murder?
and wife knew and mother covered this up for days and helped disguised the children?
You could never make this stuff up................

And wife (TM) is so fed up with her hubby (AM) paying so much attention to the younger sisters (Rumor-who may or may not be his daughter/s) that she participates in the murders (2x first degree murder charges), and then drives the bodies away, etc.

Whaat!?!

Perhaps, I've become too jaded...IMO, this stinks of pedophiliac depravities and wife knew about his sickening pedophiliac proclivities, etc. Now, after the fact, she's crying me that river.

Not buying any of it. IMO, this will be some twisted sexual scenario involving pedophilia with knowledge plus more, by Teresa M (the wife).

 

[Shelby2]

And wife (TM) is so fed up with her hubby (AM) paying so much attention to the younger sisters (Rumor-who may or may not be his daughter/s) that she participates in the murders (2x first degree murder charges), and then drives the bodies away, etc.

Whaat!?!

Perhaps, I've become too jaded...IMO, this stinks of pedophiliac depravities and wife knew about his sickening pedophilia proclivities, etc. Now, after the fact, she's crying me that river.

Not buying any of it. IMO, this will be some twisted sexual scenario involving pedophilia.

And what about his mother? This is one twisted family.

 

[Ghostwheel]

???

It's all over CNN, CNN.com, FOX, MSNBC, HLN, etc, etc. and has been for days.

My CNN.com homepage doesn't even show it at all. I have to go to the Justice tab to find anything about it. My msmnbc.com has it buried in the list of "other top stories". If you aren't in the area it happened (AZ probably has something, too), it's not big front page news. It's kind of buried with "Terror Group May Have More Underwear Bombs."

 

[Isabelle]

Hopefully someone will turn this goon in, now that the reward is so high!

 

[Reannan]

This case makes me sick on so many levels!!! Just got home and trying to catch up to a nightmare. I live in South Carolina and I have looked at every vehicle on the road, today and tonight, trying to find these two little girls who need someone to hug them and make them feel safe. I can't even stand to think about how they feel right now - it drives me insane. How the HE!! does AM think he can murder their Mother and sister, and then just march off into the future with them, and they will be cool with that? How the HE!! does TM think she will benefit by helping her EX-HUSBAND with the kidnapping and murder of a FAMILY!!!!!!??? I just want to bash my head into a wall trying to understand this. I can't understand this. I can't stomach this. I want to put a bullet in AM SO BAD!!!! I want those little girls to be found NOW!!!!! I could just scream about now. :banghead:

 

[MaryJaneSmith]

Have been out all day and am trying to catch up. Got the news earlier that TM was charged with murder. However, after reading back a few pages there are a few things i am confused about. First off, what's this about AM and viagra? Second, how much did they raise the reward to? Forgive me, but I am new to this place, and have a tough time navigating to the right places. LOL takes me forever to find the latest pages. What else did I miss since this morning? Whew this place is hopping, and I can't keep up!

 

[JeannieC]

Thank you was not enough.

GB is at an age where he was probably thinking ahead to retirement, to spending his golden years with his daughters and grandchildren and his beautiful wife (who, judging from her FB, seemed devoted to him). It looks like he found love later in life and it must have seemed like such a miracle to him.

And now it has all been ripped away from him.

I don't want to force him to parade his grief in front of millions of people for whom it is just a spectacle. I'm always sad that so many families are forced to do so in order to get help in finding their loved ones.

Let him grieve in private. I hope his daughter and grandchild are a comfort to him.

This is just a thought but it might be in the best interest of the girls for GB to stay out of the media. Law Enforcement might be wanting GB to keep quiet and I'm sure he isn't ready yet. This is different from a stranger kidnapping. If GB gets in front of the camera and pleads for the return of his daughters it just might provoke AM.

AM claims they are his. He probably resents GB because the girls. GB had the loving wife and 4 daughters. He had it all.

IF AM is delusional this could set him off. At this point, I'm not sure there is anyone who could talk to AM and get him to surrender the girls. This wasn't a spur of the moment decision. He planned it and involved others. He isn't going to give up that easy. imo

 

[SpongeBathHotPants]

Here in AZ there isn't much about this story, I had to come here to find out about it. As for the red dirt, in Sedona (about and hour and a half north of Phoenix) they have the red rocks, it's an entire strech of forest that is nothing but red rocks and red dirt. Hope that helps.

 

[CrankyAngel]

Hi all, still trying to catch up! This thread moves fast and furious lol.

I really think the media is almost hurting this case more than anything by releasing half truths and missinformation. So annoying!

What ever happened with the 1% biker gang theory? I felt like they may have helped him in the beginning but stopped after the id's on the bodies were confirmed.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I have no knowledge of Teresa Mayes mental abilities. I do know that a person who is in Special Education within school systems is perfectly capable of getting a regular High School diploma. If Teresa Mayes has a Special Education diploma, that means her educational load was different from mainstream students. This also means she COULD have emotional disabilities as well (as learning differences and emotional issues can go hand in hand). Before TM gets completely demonized, please consider that she may well have mental issues that caused her to become unable to deal with the situations at hand, including being sure AM would kill her after witnessing him killing JB and AB.

Think about it: what kind of woman would marry a man who lives with his parents and has no job? Does that sound like a person loaded with self esteem and reasoning ability?

 

[Reannan]

This is just a thought but it might be in the best interest of the girls for GB to stay out of the media. Law Enforcement might be wanting GB to keep quiet and I'm sure he isn't ready yet. This is different from a stranger kidnapping. If GB gets in front of the camera and pleads for the return of his daughters it just might provoke AM.

AM claims they are his. He probably resents GB because the girls. GB had the loving wife and 4 daughters. He had it all.

IF AM is delusional this could set him off. At this point, I'm not sure there is anyone who could talk to AM and get him to surrender the girls. This wasn't a spur of the moment decision. He planned it and involved others. He isn't going to give up that easy. imo

Best post ever... I totally agree with everything you said!!! GB is in a horrible place!!!!

 

[Roxye]

And I am in TN and our dirt is brown, fwiw,lol

Lol! I am in Tennessee as well and I remember being shocked by the color of the dirt when I moved here from Kentucky 18 years ago. When I till my garden every year, it is red clay dirt I see. ( Then I add fertilizer) It still shocks me every year. You would think I would be used to it by now

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I think AM, being a selfish, controlling individual thought of these 2 girls as his property (that he owned them.) I don't believe in anyway that he was the father of either. In his mind though, he had become obsessed to the point of stealing them. He was stated as being a little boy in a big mans body. This indicates to me that he socialized better with children, could control and manipulate them and may have sexual intentions.

This could have lead TM to believe that there was something going on between JB and AM when in reality it was the children he was obsessed with. Not wanting to think that his desires were toward a child, she would assume it was JB. This could play in AM's favor as far getting her to help carry out the murders.

I think that AM probably manipulated each family member individually setting up this scenerio.

He very well may have drugged them so they weren't thinking clearly or to knock them out. He had access to psychiatric meds through his wife for example, or someone could have had a script for sleeping meds. I don't necessarily think that he would have had to drug anyone though to pull this off. A gun would be enough to keep someone quiet while each person was taken out of the house one at a time.

 

[GrainneDhu]

If he was supposed to be leaving to drive the U Haul to Arizona that day, I doubt he would have been working. I agree I feel awful for GB, his life is shattered right now. I just hope they can bring his two girls home to him.

I still find it odd that GB did not drive to AM when his wife and kids disappeared. I am just trying to figure this out. I DO NOT believe GB is anything but a victim in this, so please don't get me wrong. I am just thinking about the last tweets and posts of the deceased. I wonder if somehow AM did not put a seed of doubt into GB's mind about his own wife. So when she disappeared and AM disappeared (when he was supposed to be there to drive the U haul with him), he did not think that she had run off with AM and the children. The fact that GB wrote that on her fb about her working things out with him, and the statement he made that all she has to do is call and let "LE lay eyes on her" and it would be over or done. I think the poor man actually thought she ran out on him. Perhaps AM mentally manipulated him over time too. I think AM is the freaking devil.... Please God let the babies be brought home to GB. The pain he must be in is unimaginable....IMHO

I agree with you.

I also think, which is more likely? "My wife and three daughters have been abducted by a crazy man that I've known as a family member for more than 20 years and two of them are already dead!!!" or "Jo Ann ran away..."

Lots of women run away, some with other men. Comparatively few women are abducted with their three children.

Maybe I'm just too easy going but my first thoughts would not have jumped to abduction and mayhem but to a voluntary disappearance.

For all we know, GB did call AM and AM lied in a very convincing manner. Something along the lines of "Nope, I haven't seen Jo Ann or the girls... I thought you and I were leaving for Arizona tomorrow, so I came back home to get some stuff. I woke up early, couldn't sleep, so I left early. I didn't see anyone."

 

[MaryJaneSmith]

I have no knowledge of Teresa Mayes mental abilities. I do know that a person who is in Special Education within school systems is perfectly capable of getting a regular High School diploma. If Teresa Mayes has a Special Education diploma, that means her educational load was different from mainstream students. This also means she COULD have emotional disabilities as well (as learning differences and emotional issues can go hand in hand). Before TM gets completely demonized, please consider that she may well have mental issues that caused her to become unable to deal with the situations at hand, including being sure AM would kill her after witnessing him killing JB and AB.

Think about it: what kind of woman would marry a man who lives with his parents and has no job? Does that sound like a person loaded with self esteem and reasoning ability?

I tend to agree with you. I guess in order to look at the facts without emotion, a woman with a special ed diploma and/or a low IQ with emotional and mental problems would be an easy mark for someone who likes to have subservient females around them. I think I will save judgement on her until I know more. What kind of woman would allow her husband to go spend time with another woman or the children knowing that he has a thing for them? One that is under the man's control. No woman that hasn't been either beaten or drugged into submission would allow her man to go romance other females, much less abuse children. She is either borderline mentally retarded, or she is controlled in another way. I don't believe she would have gone and done this all on her own without being told what to do by AM. She deserves the punishment she will receive. We just don't know enough to be the jury. MOO Do we know if she could have stopped him? Would he have killed her too? Then again, how do we know that she didn't kill JB in a fit of jealous rage and is conveniently blaming hubby for it? I've missed a lot today, so ya'll steer me back the right way if I am way off track here.

 

[simlyme]

You stayed up all night hoping they would find the girls?

YES :blushing:

 

[Ladylub]

Sorry. Should have clarified. IF the Game Over T shirt guy is WITH the little girl in the video, then it is weird that he fidgets a lot and doesn't talk to her.

It was a complete assumption on my part that these two people were together.

The little girl buys two cokes. Gives the cashier a few dollars. Receives change. And exits.

The Game Over guy says something to the cashier and exits. Seems strange to stand in line all the time just to say something and then leave.

So, I assumed they were together.

Also, playing into this assumption is my own world view> that you don't let children walk into stores alone.

The cashier reaches over the counter and hands something to her making me think it was one of those automatic change things confusing the girl as to where her change was. Guy behind her to smile a bit. Guy behind her handed cash to the cashier for gas. (Hands cash and points outside saying something.)

 

[sherbetjello]

Here in AZ there isn't much about this story, I had to come here to find out about it.

I hear hourly reports about this story on CNN. It does help if news is local, especially searching for a FBI top 10, but this is most defiantly national news.

It's mind boggling that whomever is shacking him up, if anyone, they haven't turned him in for the reward.

 

[jjenny]

We know that mother and her husband did let him spend time with the children. So they must have not believed there was anything strange going on.
I really don't see why it's out of realm of possibility that he actually did date the mother before she married her current husband.