Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #13 *Arrest*

[alas]

I am convinced there is someone helping him. Neither are "camping inclined" and ill-prepared for a month of camping. If he stockpiled supplies then why the Wal Mart stop.... An 8 day missionary trip is far from being prepared to survive in another country.

I believe they went to Decatur to pick up or take care of something. Stopped at Wal-Mart to get supplies for the trip to the final destination


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[SolarPoweredSeaSlug]

50 year old single mom here. I'm 5'3, 120 lbs. My 16 year old son is 6'4, 175 lbs. I recently demanded his phone until he completed an assignment. He refused and as I turned to leave his room threatening to call in backup, he threw the phone at me. I picked up the phone, took the cords to his playstation, tv & stereo, grabbed his car keys off his night stand and slammed the door behind me. He can have it all back if he asks, so far he hasn't worked up the nerve.

Good for you...most parents these days would not be able to do that...

 

[cujenn81]

The FBI specialist in the Good Morning America episode said, that "of course they could have" crossed into Canada or Mexico. He said there are remote places where it's possible to cross.

He is speculating, of course.

And Holy Smokes, JC says she loves him and forgives him, but can never trust him. While his girls try to encourage him to do the right thing by offering support and reminding him of a scripture verse he often talked about with them while growing up.

JC also said she didn't know about TC and Elizabeth's relationship and neither did anyone else bc Tad had always liked everyone and was often helping others etc.


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I have a hard time believing JC when she says she wasn't aware of their relationship. I mean, hasn't she already admitted that she knew about the kissing allegation (even if she says she didn't believe it)?

Our intuition is innately human. It's also the most efficient and survivalistic tool we have at our disposal to help us recognize potential threats to our livelihood. Intuition is almost always right because it only cares about one thing---protecting us, both physically and mentally. We almost always know the truth by the way it feels inside of our soul, but oftentimes, we ignore it. It's a lot easier to live our lives in blind ignorance than it is to force ourselves to face our ugly truths. Think about how often you've said "I knew this was going to happen!" after something goes wrong. The popular colloquialism says "hindsight is 20/20" but what it should say is "an ignored intuition will eventually slap you in the face with the truth".

So, despite what JC may claim... I think she probably had a very good idea about the type of relationship her husband had with ET, even if she tried to convince herself otherwise.

ETA: so, it really bothers me to hear her say such things... because even if she ignored her gut feelings initially (like when the red flags tried to warn her that something smelled fishy), I feel certain the picture became crystal clear to her in the same second she realized that her husband was gone and wasn't coming back.

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[shifferbrainz]

Just thinking out loud here, hiding in plain sight direction if ya don;t mind.

I notice some TV ads for a dating site referring to the farming life. Some of these have, what appear to me anyway, men in their late 30's early 40's hooking up with women who appear to be 20ish. Just an observation. In some areas young women in substantial numbers look for a man who is already financially well off, farm owner, business owner etc. Continuing to think out loud, if TC can pull off a 40's appearance and EC can pull off a 20's look, there are plenty off places where they would not get a second glance.

 

[blue22]

sure, but this was a consensual kiss between TC and ET, unlike the bus driver...

Nope. She can't legally consent to sexual contact. And if she was of legal age, he could and/or would still be charged with a crime. He is an authority figure. It's illegal and consent is not the case here, for multiple reasons.

 

[Normancita]

I think they could be in Ecuador.


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[SolarPoweredSeaSlug]

Blaming ET's dad for TC's actions?

Not blaming ET's dad, but as a father of a teenage daughter my self, I can say with absolute certainty that the phone would have been removed from my daughters possession (and most likely reviewed with the police and my lawyer ASAP), her ability to see the teacher in the school would have been terminated (even if that means I took her out of school), and her ability to go anywhere without me knowing it would have been 0, and that includes work (she does not NEED to work).

Her dad did NOT do these things. For her dad to not get the phone to the police was just...naive and sad.

 

[shifferbrainz]

ET's father had his hands full, and I am guessing was bombarded from all sides being a single dad trying to clean up a mess.

 

[Shelby1]

I've read every post from day one. My opinion is that they are in some podunk, tiny, out of the way camping area in the midwest. I don't think they are by a major lake because the weather has been so warm that even now the popular camping areas will be busy.

 

[pegs]

If it was discussed before forgive my ignorance, but does T.C. have a military background at all?

Depends on who you ask. If you ask Tad Cummins he will probably tell you he was a 4-Star General, but no he doesn't.

 

[Kapua]

ET's father had his hands full, and I am guessing was bombarded from all sides being a single dad trying to clean up a mess.

That poor man is going through it, and has to keep it together for the rest of his family.

 

[blue22]

ET's father had his hands full, and I am guessing was bombarded from all sides being a single dad trying to clean up a mess.

And dealing with a teenager who has been abused, and is being incredibly manipulated and emotionally toyed with...is a totally different beast.

It's always easy to have the answer as a spectator. I can't fault the dad.

 

[KaaBoom]

They will grant a divorce without both parties agreeing/ signing the papers??? That must be unique to that state. I thought it was nearly impossible to get a divorce with just one party being knowledgeable or agreeing. That is why they have to "serve" divorce papers- to be sure the other person was notified.

As others here have already posted, the notification can be done by publishing a legal notice in a newspaper.

How do I serve papers on my spouse?

A sheriff or a process server in your spouse's home state may serve process. You may also send copies by certified mail to your spouse's residence or, if you don't know where your spouse is, publish a legal notice in a newspaper selected by the court.

Tennessee Divorce FAQs

 

[SolarPoweredSeaSlug]

ET's father had his hands full, and I am guessing was bombarded from all sides being a single dad trying to clean up a mess.

Thats why I try not to blame him. I give him the benefit of the doubt, since he does have other daughters, that he did the best he could.

I, on the other hand, would have probably went all nuclear...and pushed the envelope a bit far to secure and protect my daughter. This would probably have included some isolated counseling, especially if she tried to protect TC or justify his actions.

 

[DatelineFan]

Just to clarify, does this mean that aside from Elizabeth there are THREE individuals who were groomed as teenagers by TC? Assuming one is Destany Parrish, and one will remain anonymous, is the remaining person still a minor? Or is she now an adult who intends to speak to the press?

Kat, hope you are doing relatively ok at the moment. Elizabeth, yourself, and your family are in my thoughts daily.

I would imagine there are even more. Hopefully they do not speak to the press, and are being prepared to testify once this pervert is arrested.

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[shifferbrainz]

Thats why I try not to blame him. I give him the benefit of the doubt, since he does have other daughters, that he did the best he could.

I, on the other hand, would have probably went all nuclear...and pushed the envelope a bit far to secure and protect my daughter. This would probably have included some isolated counseling, especially if she tried to protect TC or justify his actions.

It should not have been needed. TC was helped from within the admin. He should have been out of there the minute anything was alleged IMO. Now, who all knew and wanted to protect their little world of gold?

You can sugar coat it, delete any mention of it but we all know it exists, and has a lot to do with resolving this case.

 

[shifferbrainz]

If TC stays hidden long enough will his wife get her divorce granted sooner? Will this preserve their , or her half of, estate from attorney fees?

On that note. I would be curious of any of TC's acquaintances happened to "loose" a bottle of Blood Pressure prescription medication and need a refill ---

 

[bestill]

I am beginning to think that he will get away with this. All he has to do is wait for the divorce to become final and ET to be of legal age, depending on which state they decide to start their new life. The only reason they may be caught is they are going to need money. I would love to know if they have a computer with them. They literally could start an online business and never be caught.

 

[Considering]

District Attorney Brent Cooper said detectives asked her father, Anthony Thomas, to hand over his daughter’s phone.

“He wasn’t able to do that or he didn’t do that,” Cooper said.

What was District Attorney Cooper's reason for giving this information to a reporter? I'd like to know exactly how he feels this statement helps to find Elizabeth Thomas. To be more exact, I think it is victim blaming (the victim being Anthony Thomas, Elizabeth's father in this case). Victim blaming seems to be rampant in Maury County. I am also reminded that district Attorney Cooper stated the following early on in the case:

"To be honest with you, I know Mr. Cummins - he is from my hometown. I know his family, they are all good people."

"This really seems to be out of character for the Tad Cummins I knew growing up, and I just hope that Tad realizes that the best thing for him to do is to call his family or the sheriff's department."

http://www.wsmv.com/story/35148584/investigators-did-not-have-access-to-elizabeth-thomas-phone

http://www.wsmv.com/story/34935506/teacher-student-posted-on-social-media-on-day-they-went-missing

 

[pegs]

I have a hard time believing JC when she says she wasn't aware of their relationship. I mean, hasn't she already admitted that she knew about the kissing allegation (even if she says she didn't believe it)?

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I struggle somewhat with this as well. She says he betrayed her trust, maybe it's just me but it makes me wonder if she questioned Tad Cummins about his involvement with Elizabeth. She had to have know it was inappropriate for him to be "helping" her the way he was. They have actually qualified counselors availble for that and she would have known that since she worked at the school. I think the "betrayal" may be that she questioned him about the motive for his attention to Elizabeth and wanted to believe his lies, but part of her IMO suspected.

I don't believe Tad Cummins is ashamed an IMO that isn't what prompted his flight. I think he was angry that the authorities were stepping in and putting (or attempting to) limits on his behavior and the narcissist in him would not stand for that. I think a big part of the reason he kidnapped Elizabeth was to send a message to LE and those that questioned him. That message is that he considers himself superior and he can do whatever he wants and nobody can control him. His narcissistic ego was raging and the best way to hurt everybody and show he was in control was to take Elizabeth. IMO he has NO capacity to feel guilt or remorse.

JC puts 'human' emotions onto Tad Cummins as a way to make him less of a monster. It is an understandable coping tool. Nobody wants to wake up one day and realize the person you've lived with for 30 years is a cold, calculating, pathological liar,
and predator.