Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #5

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All of the Chick Fil A restaurants should be sent flyers. IMO
She and he both had several photos of food and drinks from there.
They are closed on Sunday.
I bet at some point they will visit the drive thru.
MOO
 
Forgive me if already posted. But this is interesting: according to dad, one time TC went to where ET worked and she hid from him.

http://wate.com/2017/03/26/attorney-family-says-elizabeth-thomas-once-hid-from-cummins/

Oh my gosh. That says so much. It doesn't surprise me. This little girl likely was super conflicted. Loved the attention and praise but her gut told her something else. I feel like she didn't really take any of this seriously and it sort of got away from her and she got stuck in a situation she doesn't know how to get out of.
 
Yes, this! This is what I was trying to understand!
I had no idea it was such a short drive to Alabama though.

It looks as if it is kind of nice there; ditch the phones and look around?

Also would make sense that they picked up the burner phones in Decatur. Unless, of course, the trip to Decatur was an intentional red herring, in which case, they could have had the burner phones from the start. Sort of defies logic that TC would know to check his vehicle make for possible tracking, but NOT know about cell phone pings.

My gut feeling is that he wanted that phone to ping in Alabama. I think he doubled back or headed north east after ditching the phone. JMO
 
Does ET have more than 1 pair of eyeglasses? Shape? Colors if known could be useful.
 
Apologies if this has been posted. Please don't make assumptions about what the wife may or may not be thinking. I work in a law office where one attorney practice family law and it's been very eye opening what seemingly normal people can hide.

Maybe she has buried her head in the sand and sees her husband as an innocent victim of a seductress (15, really?!). However, I don't think one gets to their early 50's without at least some clue of how twisted people - even those we think we know well - can be.

Imho she is reaching out to him via media not because she believes he's innocent, not because she wants him back, but because turning himself in in best for him, best for Elizabeth, and perhaps best for her children and grandchildren. Better they know him in prison (where he belongs) than visiting a grave if he feels there's no other recourse.

Your point makes sense. I imagine the atmosphere wasn't too happy around their house after his suspension on February 6 or 7 all the way up until March 13, even if everything seemed hunky-dory before then.
 
Does ET have more than 1 pair of eyeglasses? Shape? Colors if known could be useful.

Going off that, is she someone who NEEDS her glasses or someone who can go without them for a while? (I feel naked without some sort of corrective lenses and don't see well to ever ever leave the house without them or even my bedroom/bathroom, but some people can see okay without them)
 
All above are in response to victim shaming.

I'll walk away and perhaps may be cleaned up? We do victim shaming rumors here?

Edited: disregard below comments. Bently upthread stated there was a misunderstanding so my comment below is moot.

Gently, respectfully, but what are you referring to? Because every single one of the posts you quoted were in support of Elizabeth's sister commenting that some local people were putting the blame on her. No one on Websleuths that I saw posted anything negative (victim blaming) about ET. The quotes you provided prove that. What am I missing?
 
Does ET have more than 1 pair of eyeglasses? Shape? Colors if known could be useful.

He definitely has at least two, bc he has a "regular pair" and the prescription sunglasses in the pic I posted yesterday. I will see if I can identify other pairs from photos.

But does he have boxes of contacts? Colored contacts? That makes an even bigger difference.




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I sat out in the back forty acres today, watching my dogs chase each other, chase squirrels, chase rabbits, chase robins, and relieve themselves on odd items out in the woods.

I sat in a chair for an hour or two...........just me and my thoughts.............soaking up the sun while lounging around with a twelve-pack of Marlboro's and a pack of Bud light.

I'd been coming in sporadically all day long and reading the back and forth between ET's sister and the rest of you. I didn't jump in and say anything or ask any questions, because as you all know, I am kinda' timid and bashful, along with not being all that smart. But while I was sitting out there reflecting on why I wasn't born to billionaire parents who left me a trust fund large enough to insure I would never have to work a day in my life, at the same time, I also reflected on TC and his disappearing act and where the hell he could be hidden.

So I began to ask myself.........."If you were him........where would you go to hide so that 300 million people couldn't find you ?"

Most ideas have already been laid out and presented in here, some of them logical and some of them illogical. Some ideas are reality based, and some ideas are "Jason Bourne" based. For instance, some people seem to think that hopping between countries is no more difficult than driving from Texas to Oklahoma. Not true. I think if someone has the presence of mind to ask if ET has ever applied for a passport, the answer will be a resounding NO. Sure, you don't need a passport to drive down into Mexico, but trying to survive in the country of Mexico as a fat white guy on the run with a 15 year old white girl while U.S. authorities are actively pursuing you via Amber Alerts would be much more difficult to mask in Mexico than the U.S. The two of them would stand out like a sore thumb.

We all know that the Tadster has limited funds available to him. If he tries to withdraw even a penny from one of his bank accounts via a debit card, LE is going to send in the Calvary to the location that the transaction took place. I actually hope they have enough sense to leave a few thousand dollars in all of his bank accounts for that very reason.

So, let's get down to the meat of this post. Where the hell can he hide on limited funds with his known background ??

1) Campsites-------private and public. Unlikely according to her sister.

2) Youth camps, student retreats, boy scout camps, church/ religion based retreats-----most will be closed until closer to summer. Many have working utilities and furnished cabins. More likely.

3) People in his church or through his school that may have a second home, third home, vacation home, summer home, winter home. Many people who maintain more than one residence will leave the utilities on and working during their absence. These homes may be as many as 5 or 6 States away from where they currently live. They may be highly visible in a residential neighborhood, or they may be secluded, gated, and even fenced from view. A gate with a lock on it leading up the driveway can easily be cut with a pair of bolt cutters. TC may know people who have these second homes, and could actually be staying in one of them. The more secluded and hidden the home is, the more it needs to be check out by LE.................if they can figure out who's homes they should check on. Very Likely.

4) Since everything in the Tadsters life seemed to revolve around the church and religion, why shouldn't his escape plan include it as well ? We all know now that ET was both psychically a sexually assaulted in the confines of her own home. This in itself may have been a huge factor in TC deciding to play the part of her savior. I don't know all that much about religious cults and sects that view teenaged marriage as a typical everyday thing, but I know they exist. I'm going to tread very softly here, because I am somewhat ignorant about the subject, but for example......Warren Jeffs. Utah. Mormon based....cult? religion? Off-shoot?
In the Tadsters eyes, he may have been saving this girl from what he see's as an unhappy life. I think we can all agree that he has ulterior motives of his own at play, but his "compassion" might be enough to get him admitted into some kind of a religious based cult or sect that will not only hide the two of them, but will put up all kinds of hurdles for LE to try and work through. It's possible that he found an sympathetic religious organization............the kind most of us would consider a cult...............that was not only willing to accept them but to also harbor them. Just bring all the money you have and we'll help out.


Short of any of these scenarios playing out.....................I'm fresh out of ideas.
 
Gently, respectfully, but what are you referring to? Because every single one of the posts you quoted were in support of Elizabeth's sister commenting that some local people were putting the blame on her. No one on Websleuths that I saw posted anything negative (victim blaming) about ET. The quotes you provided prove that. What am I missing?
Bently has already reposnded that they were mistaken and they thought the post about "harlet" was someone shaming her on here, not what the town was saying.
 
He definitely has at least two, bc he has a "regular pair" and the prescription sunglasses in the pic I posted yesterday. I will see if I can identify other pairs from photos.

But does he have boxes of contacts? Colored contacts? That makes an even bigger difference.




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Contacts can be a hassle, though, especially if they're camping. Glasses would probably be easier.
 
I just took it to be something she could cook in the microwave he bought for her exclusive use.

"According to Anthony, Cummins helped Elizabeth with homework and “[gave] her money, bought a microwave so she would heat food up in his room [and] try and get her out of trouble.”
http://people.com/crime/elizabeth-thomas-missing-family-letter/
I am guessing that he used cross contamination as a reason for having the microwave due to ET's allergy to gluten.
I also have a gluten allergy, (Celiac Disease to be specific )
Everything is supposed to be separated, no sharing of cooking supplies, utensils etc. Stove and grills in restaurants have to be cleaned prior to prepaid food for anyone with a gluten allergy etc.

If they are on the run I guarantee that he isn't alerting any waitresses or restaurant managers of her allergy as that would call attention to them.

😠 That makes me mad and makes me think he truly does not have her best interest in mind.
This is all about what HE wants
IMO

http://www.eatright.org/resource/he...ac-disease/avoiding-gluten-crosscontamination
 
Going off that, is she someone who NEEDS her glasses or someone who can go without them for a while? (I feel naked without some sort of corrective lenses and don't see well to ever ever leave the house without them or even my bedroom/bathroom, but some people can see okay without them)

Her vision is bad but she doesn't often wear them. She is a teen who hates wearing them
 
I sat out in the back forty acres today, watching my dogs chase each other, chase squirrels, chase rabbits, chase robins, and relieve themselves on odd items out in the woods.

I sat in a chair for an hour or two...........just me and my thoughts.............soaking up the sun while lounging around with a twelve-pack of Marlboro's and a pack of Bud light.

I'd been coming in sporadically all day long and reading the back and forth between ET's sister and the rest of you. I didn't jump in and say anything or ask any questions, because as you all know, I am kinda' timid and bashful, along with not being all that smart. But while I was sitting out there reflecting on why I wasn't born to billionaire parents who left me a trust fund large enough to insure I would never have to work a day in my life, at the same time, I also reflected on TC and his disappearing act and where the hell he could be hidden.

So I began to ask myself.........."If you were him........where would you go to hide so that 300 million people couldn't find you ?"

Most ideas have already been laid out and presented in here, some of them logical and some of them illogical. Some ideas are reality based, and some ideas are "Jason Bourne" based. For instance, some people seem to think that hopping between countries is no more difficult than driving from Texas to New Mexico. Not true. I think if someone has the presence of mind to ask if ET has ever applied for a passport, the answer will be a resounding NO. Sure, you don't need a passport to drive down into Mexico, but trying to survive in the country of Mexico as a fat white guy on the run with a 15 year old white girl while U.S. authorities are actively pursuing you via Amber Alerts would be much more difficult to mask in Mexico than the U.S. The two of them would stand out like a sore thumb.

We all know that the Tadster has limited funds available to him. If he tries to withdraw even a penny from one of his bank accounts via a debit card, LE is going to send in the Calvary to the location that the transaction took place. I actually hope they have enough sense to leave a few thousand dollars in all of his bank accounts for that very reason.

So, let's get down to the meat of this post. Where the hell can he hide on limited funds with his known background ??

1) Campsites-------private and public. Unlikely according to her sister.

2) Youth camps, student retreats, boy scout camps, church/ religion based retreats-----most will be closed until closer to summer. Many have working utilities and furnished cabins. More likely.

3) People in his church or through his school that may have a second home, third home, vacation home, summer home, winter home. Many people who maintain more than one residence will leave the utilities on and working during their absence. These homes maybe as many as 5 or 6 States away from where they currently live. They may be highly visible in a residential neighborhood, or they may be secluded, gated, and even fenced from view. A gate with a lock on it leading up the driveway can easily be cut. TC may know people who have these second homes, and could actually be staying in one of them. The more secluded and hidden the home is, the more it needs to be check out by LE.................if they can figure out who's homes they should check on. Very Likely.

4) Since everything in the Tadsters life seemed to revolve around the church and religion, why shouldn't his escape plan include it as well ? We all know now that ET was both psychically a sexually assaulted in the confines of her own home. This in itself may have been a huge factor in TC deciding to play the part of her savior. I don't know all that much about religious cults and sects that view teenaged marriage as a typical everyday thing, but I know they exist. I'm going to tread very softly here, because I am somewhat ignorant about the subject, but for example......Warren Jeffs. Utah. Mormon based....cult? religion? Off-shoot?
In the Tadsters eyes, he may have been saving this girl from what he see's as an unhappy life. I think we can all agree that he has ulterior motives of his own at play, but his "compassion" might be enough to get him admitted into some kind of a religious based cult or sect that will not only hide the two of them, but will put up all kinds of hurdles for LE to try and work through. It's possible that he found an sympathetic religious organization............the kind most of us would consider a cult...............that was not only willing to accept them but to also harbor them. Just bring all the money you have and we'll help out.


Short of any of these scenarios playing out.....................I'm fresh out of ideas.

I kinda like the thought process behind this. More ideas. These are good.
 
Contacts can be a hassle, though, especially if they're camping. Glasses would probably be easier.

Hmmm. I dunno. I wear the type of extended wear contacts you can wear for 30 days without taking them out. I am very active in kayaking etc and wear them to swim, paddle, camp, and so on. I sleep in them every night. So I tend to think today's contacts would make it more doable...if he did his research.


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