Found Deceased TN - Noah Chamberlin, 2, Pinson, 14 Jan 2016 - #2

[MsMarple]

I think his comment was likely connected to the flood of emails they have received with maps and such saying "search here". It sounds harmless enough but when you times it by the world, because people from all over the world are seeing it thanks to social media, it gets to be cumbersome. It is very frustrating because weeding through thousands of maid and psychics and gut feelings and rumors takes a huge amount of time.

ITA! The other day he talked about getting "tips" from "psychics" and how they have to check most of them even though they don't believe in them, because it's part of the job. He said one came in from California - you should have seen the look on his face! Time wasters while a child is missing.

The sheriff is tired and I bet he doesn't spend a lot of time on sm and is probably horrified by what he's seen. He's not related to the family but he may know them from church or something so it may also feel "personal" to him, I dunno.

Unfortunately, his demeanor isn't helping to keep rumors at bay; the grumpier his answers are the more it seems to make people suspicious. I guess it's a no-win situation.

Anyway, at the beginning of the presser sheriff Weaver gave this timeline:

911 call - around 1:40
2:00 - Chester and Madison counties deputies were on scene
Shortly after 2:00 both sheriff's were on scene.
3:00 - THP helicopers arrived.
4:00 - military helicopters arrived.
4:00 - dogs on the ground.
By 6:00 - 75 to 100 LE personnel on scene.

What he wouldn't confirm was how long it took grandma to call 911 and how far into the woods they were when Noah went missing. I'm not complaining - just stating for the timeline.

 

[Foxfire]

Aren't mountain lions and cougars the same thing? Here in Montana we call them Mountain lions. Kinda like potatoe potato depending on where you live.

Mountain Lion

Common Name: Mountain Lion
Scientific Name: Felis concolor
Size (length) English: 6'-9'
Habitat: all mountainous regions and swamps
Diet: commonly deer but also anything from elk to mice
Predators: wolves, other Mountain Lions

Mountain Lion

Also known as cougar, puma, panther, yellow cat, catamount, etc., the Mountain Lion is North America's largest member of the cat family.
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http://www.nps.gov/brca/learn/nature/mountainlion.htm

 

[Ray_of_hope]

(But what about my high tech bullseye map? The one with the deformed circles?

:floorlaugh: l

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I just don't get why they don't want google earth searches. Do they not want us to see something? I'm just wondering...
PS I happen to like your maps and circles margarita25!

 

[margarita25]

ITA! The other day he talked about getting "tips" from "psychics" and how they have to check most of them even though they don't believe in them, because it's part of the job. He said one came in from California - you should have seen the look on his face! Time wasters while a child is missing.

The sheriff is tired and I bet he doesn't spend a lot of time on sm and is probably horrified by what he's seen. He's not related to the family but he may know them from church or something so it may also feel "personal" to him, I dunno.

Unfortunately, his demeanor isn't helping to keep rumors at bay; the grumpier his answers are the more it seems to make people suspicious. I guess it's a no-win situation.

Anyway, at the beginning of the presser sheriff Weaver gave this timeline:

911 call - around 1:40
2:00 - Chester and Madison counties deputies were on scene
Shortly after 2:00 both sheriff's were on scene.
3:00 - THP helicopers arrived.
4:00 - military helicopters arrived.
4:00 - dogs on the ground.
By 6:00 - 75 to 100 LE personnel on scene.

What he wouldn't confirm was how long it took grandma to call 911 and how far into the woods they were when Noah went missing. I'm not complaining - just stating for the timeline.

Thanks for bringing this forward, I've been meaning to. But now I'm feeling like Sheriff doesn't want us doing anything. Maybe I'm taking his google earth comment a little too hard, lol.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

maybe we can't use google earth to see how old the concrete wall is???
really all we can do here is talk about wildlife, weather, dogs and sink holes.
no timeline no other specifics.......LE handling this so close to vest has everyone wondering why.

I don't think there is much to say. Noah's grandmother turned her attention to the other child and Noah walked into the woods so is presumed to be lost. Little tots can move quickly even through rough terrain. What else can the Sheriff say? He can only discuss who is helping and give a broad view of what they are doing to find Noah in 1,000 acres of wooded land. He said he trusts what the family is telling him and it appears they believe Noah is just lost without foul play being involved.

We can discuss a lot of things, but for the Sheriff to give out more information it would require there to be some. I really don't think they have anything at this point.

 

[Sgt]

BBM - Nothing is infallible - if it were we would have found him the first day. Dogs are a tool - helicopters with infrared capabilites are a tool - even volunteer searchers are a tool - but each and every one has at some time missed something. That does not make them a joke. Sorry but that just hit me the wrong way. I have sent many bloodhounds off to become SAR dogs and have a collection of photos and stories about the people they have found - some in time and some too late. They train very vigorously and the people who work with them are heros in my opinion.

Right. I agree that they are a tool. But people act like they are better than they are. I'm not saying don't use them. I'm saying people need to stop acting like if they don't pick up Noah's scent, it's cause he isn't in the woods. As someone who lives near by, it's awful to see so many people imply or outright say that the grandma or his parents must have done something to him just because the dogs didn't pick up a scent. I shouldn't have called them a joke, but I was irritated at the huge amount of comments that don't understand how search dogs work.

 

[Purplepixii]

I simply don't understand why Sheriff Weaver said that he couldn't discuss whether trail cameras in the woods showed signs of Noah / GM / sister. Why not even this small bit of information?

 

[margarita25]

I simply don't understand why Sheriff Weaver said that he couldn't discuss whether trail cameras in the woods showed signs of Noah / GM / sister. Why not even this small bit of information?

This.

 

[Tulessa]

Are both grand ma's active in Noah's life, or is there just the one? Sorry, I'm under the weather and not been following very close.

 

[misshissy]

I simply don't understand why Sheriff Weaver said that he couldn't discuss whether trail cameras in the woods showed signs of Noah / GM / sister. Why not even this small bit of information?

I think that if they did show all three entering or being in the woods together he would have answered the question.

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

Thanks for bringing this forward, I've been meaning to. But now I'm feeling like Sheriff doesn't want us doing anything. Maybe I'm taking his google earth comment a little too hard, lol.

How would he know anybody here was on GoogleEarth unless they were following along, which I doubt. So he's not talking to US

 

[Tulessa]

https://twitter.com/WBBJ7Dan/status/689552020802396160?s=09


It's a big one?

 

[Sgt]

I simply don't understand why Sheriff Weaver said that he couldn't discuss whether trail cameras in the woods showed signs of Noah / GM / sister. Why not even this small bit of information?

I bet it would just cause more speculation. Maybe a camera picked up grandma and/or the sister, but not Noah. If it's something like that, I can understand not wanting to share it. Think of the rumors that would spawn because of something like that.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Are both grand ma's active in Noah's life, or is there just the one? Sorry, I'm under the weather and not been following very close.

Sorry you're not well, Tulessa. Hope you're better soon. There's not a lot of info from LE. Just rudimentary facts.

 

[margarita25]

I just don't like it when they act frustrated, bothered, irritated, and defensive about rumors, many times with rumors there is a seed of truth to every lie, and many who have listened to rumors get to the bottom of things, the truth. Not saying that anyone is being untruthful, just saying, you need to wade through a sea of poop at times to find the gem hidden in it. I pray they have strength during this very stressful, hard, exhausting time. IMHO

"just saying, you need to wade through a sea of poop at times to find the gem hidden in it"

Wise words I'll try to remember that!

 

[ILOKAL]

I just don't like it when they act frustrated, bothered, irritated, and defensive about rumors, many times with rumors there is a seed of truth to every lie, and many who have listened to rumors get to the bottom of things, the truth. Not saying that anyone is being untruthful, just saying, you need to wade through a sea of poop at times to find the gem hidden in it. I pray they have strength during this very stressful, hard, exhausting time. IMHO

Since the only gem here is little Noah and there is NO reason to spread, much less listen to, rumors . . . . to do either, IMO, not only takes the eyes off the prize (Noah) but devalues all the many magnificent things that are being done to find him and bring him home to his loving family and to all those who's hearts he has touched! JMO. God Bless you little one. I pray you'll be found soon.

 

[sarx]

Every child missing can go on NCMEC's page but it is up to the agency to report it to them. There are lots of missing kids not on there and I mean lots. Some states don't seem to use it at all. Then it can take time to get up, which can be frustrating. Again, NCMEC and the timing of the poster have nothing to do with what might have happened in this case and they sent a trip because this case is big news and it gives them media time.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

How would he know anybody here was on GoogleEarth unless they were following along, which I doubt. So he's not talking to US

Every forum, crazy and not so have been using google earth, so maybe it's directed towards more scandalous or disreputable sources. That's my take. Or maybe they're using and the search engine gets too busy? I just don't know about such things. May also be that the family's privacy feels invaded...

 

[Edinlass]

Just watched the press conference and I agree, if they are believed to have walked into the woods together what harm would it be for the sheriff to state YES they did. This info would, one would assume, come from Noah's 4 year old sister and the grandmas accounts therefore would warrant accuracy. I have seen this in criminal cases before, I'm not saying this is a criminal case of course, just I have seen these tactics used before on the many cases we come across weekly on WS.

I agree also the Sheriff does look frustrated, of course this may be a mixture of tiredness and frustration. IMO something is way off here but that is, I will reiterate, my own opinion and I'm sticking to it, for now.

Also, LE will always say the family are co-operating etc.

I hope for Noah's safe return & for there to be no foul play. Only a tragic accident.

 

[hey-Debbie]

They answered on the press conference when someone asked how far from the house were they when he went missing and the answer was "not that far". And that is was "well traveled area" .