Found Deceased TN - Noah Chamberlin, 2, Pinson, 14 Jan 2016 - #2

[lonetraveler]

Michael Quander WREG ‏@MikeQReports 1h1 hour ago
Public information officer working to get the latest details on the search for Noah Chamberlin @3onyourside #FindNoah


Michael Quander WREG ‏@MikeQReports 41m41 minutes ago
Hospitals in the area refusing to discuss medical expertise surrounding Noah Chamberlin search because of sensitive details #FindNoah


https://twitter.com/MikeQReports

What the heck is this about?

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[tlcya]

The search area has continuously expanded since the search and rescue operation began, Turner said. The search teams are now checking between 1,100 and 1,200 acres of woods near the home on the 1800 block of Short Road.


Edwin Grant from the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children said he’s seen searches all over the nation, and this is one of the best searches he’s seen.


“It’s a very well done search,” Grant said.

Mehr said different K9 units, both search and rescue trained, and cadaver dogs have been assisting in the search to find Noah.


“Both cadaver and tracking dogs have been here from day one,” Mehr said.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/2016/01/19/still-search-and-rescue/79018538/




WYN 106.9
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‪#‎FindNoah‬: No new updates this morning. Community Prayer Service TONIGHT at 6:30 - Chester Co. High School in Henderson. Everyone is welcome.

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Kurt Mullen ‏@WBBJ7Kurt 7m7 minutes ago
Back in Pinson today covering the continuing search to #FindNoah. Will bring any new updates throughout the day. @WBBJ7News

https://twitter.com/WBBJ7Kurt

Madison County Fire Chief Eric Turner said the search was one of the largest and well-organized searches he had been involved in to date.


"It's similar anytime, and we continue to search and search. We continue to keep a positive attitude that we're going to find this child and everything is going to be OK," Turner said. "I have to say, this is the largest search that I've been involved with over the years, and we look for missing people all the time."


Turner said Monday night's volunteers included more than 450 searchers checking and rechecking areas that law enforcement have been through in the continually expanding search area.


"We've got people from all over the country here to help us. This is the largest rescue effort that we've been involved in," Turner said. "It's run smooth, and everybody's worked real good together. We've had everything we've needed, and it's been a phone call away."

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/local/2016/01/19/volunteers-couldnt-stay-home/79026668/

last link also contains statements from some of the volunteer searchers

 

[tlcya]

What the heck is this about?

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I suspect that reporters, not getting some of the answers they want from LE, have taken to hounding the hospitals about this case.

It could be questions such as - How long can a child be in the elements and still be alive? What sort of injuries might one expect a child to have after being lost in the woods? Have any searchers been injured during the searches? If so what kind?

Who knows. Sounds like this particular reporter is trying very hard to find something to write about in the absence of any breaking news. JMO.

 

[cujenn81]

I kept wondering who in the world is TBI? At first, I think I assumed it was a SAR organization from that area. But now I get it.... TENNESSEE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONS.
Duh.

Like their equivalent of SC's SLED (SC Law Enforcement Division), I presume. SLED is our statewide investigative LE agency, and they conduct investigations at the direction of our governor & attorney general.

 

[angels among us]

I agree that this was likely a horrible accident. But I don't think it's right to say what someone else would do in a situation. It can't be said that every person would do the same thing. Because all people are different. Some people would pull the 2 year old close before turning to tend to the 4 year old. Some wouldn't. Neither way is necessarily right or wrong. But to lump everyone together just doesn't make sense to me. All people have different parenting/grandparenting styles.

I agree AmyPond. And each child is different in the way they think, act, and their bravery to wander. I babysit a 2 year old that I have to take with me to the bathroom because he is likely to be into something he shouldn't the minute he sees me out of the room. But I also have a 2 year old nephew who wouldn't be into anything he shouldn't if I were to go to the bathroom. One is very active and rambunctious while the other not so much. They are cousins but so very different.

 

[steelman]

Here is a map I just made up to help get an idea of approximate acreages. Click on the menu items to highlight coverages. This does not represent the areas they have searched, it is simply a guide to aid in visualizing the current search zones and their approximate scope.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zAAmDUXJe_aE.kSSafOD9fxNQ&usp=sharing

 

[hey-Debbie]

Michael Quander WREG ‏@MikeQReports 1h1 hour ago
Public information officer working to get the latest details on the search for Noah Chamberlin @3onyourside #FindNoah


Michael Quander WREG ‏@MikeQReports 41m41 minutes ago
Hospitals in the area refusing to discuss medical expertise surrounding Noah Chamberlin search because of sensitive details #FindNoah


https://twitter.com/MikeQReports

Its definitely a sensitive situation, but it sounds like people around there are sticking their heads in the sand because they don't want to face the possibles/inevitable.

 

[Edinlass]

Here is a map I just made up to help get an idea of approximate acreages. Click on the menu items to highlight coverages. This does not represent the areas they have searched, it is simply a guide to aid in visualizing the current search zones and their approximate scope.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zAAmDUXJe_aE.kSSafOD9fxNQ&usp=sharing

Thank you for this map. Becoming clear just how remote a place this is. How scary

 

[MsMarple]

The search for two-year-old Noah Chamberlin will reach day seven Wednesday afternoon, and according to Madison County public information officer Tom Mapes, the hunt is still considered a search and rescue operation.

Mapes said there are nearly 100 trained law enforcement and emergency personnel searching the property behind Short Road in Pinson. The overnight and early morning freezing rain and snow is making Wednesday’s search “nasty, muddy, messy and cold,” he said.
...
Mapes said a new search dog team from Alabama is on the scene Wednesday as are fire departments from Knoxville, Milan, Greenfield and Monroe County, Mississippi. He said officials from the Tennessee Department of Corrections and the Tennessee Bomb and Arson are assisting with the search.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/2016/01/20/wed-update-search-continues-noah/79063380/

LE will announce at 4 whether or not volunteers will be used tonight. Weather's been awful, schools have been closed. Oh, and the bomb and arson squads are there to help and not to look for bombs and fires.

 

[Elainera]

Michael Quander WREG ‏@MikeQReports 1h1 hour ago
Public information officer working to get the latest details on the search for Noah Chamberlin @3onyourside #FindNoah


Michael Quander WREG ‏@MikeQReports 41m41 minutes ago
Hospitals in the area refusing to discuss medical expertise surrounding Noah Chamberlin search because of sensitive details #FindNoah


https://twitter.com/MikeQReports

bbm - what does this mean? I fail to make a connection. Medical expertise in which context? Sensitive details?

 

[steelman]

bbm - what does this mean? I fail to make a connection. Medical expertise in which context? Sensitive details?

Whether he could live or not in these weather conditions------they don't want to rain on the parade of this being a rescue mission.

 

[Sm3344]

I would guess the medical information is that no one wants to come out and say that there is 0% chance based on length of time and temperatures that this child, if he is out in the elements, is still alive.

 

[Eileen730]

Unless he had fallen in somewhere and was unable to cry.

I'm not up to what the area was like.
Water?
Rocks?
or flat forrest?

How fast were ppl looking?

I just remember how very vocal my boys were at terrible 2 u could hear them in Calif from New jersey.

So yes I'm thinking something happened to him.

 

[Elainera]

Whether he could live or not in these weather conditions------they don't want to rain on the parade of this being a rescue mission.

I would guess the medical information is that no one wants to come out and say that there is 0% chance based on length of time and temperatures that this child, if he is out in the elements, is still alive.

Ah I see. Thank you both!

 

[MotherOcean]

This may sound like a silly question for SAR specialists (I've never been on a search) -
When they cover an area, do they only walk in one direction, from the center out or across a grid from a starting point and then move on?
Sometimes (especially in the hills) you can only see things from one direction and can walk right over them coming from the other way.

No, they are working in all directions. They are covering a section in one direction (north-south) and also the other (east-west).

 

[JanetElaine]

Unless he had fallen in somewhere and was unable to cry.

Or if he's like my kids were at that age and just doesn't cry.

Mine only cried out loud (after the infant stage) if they were hurt badly (in their opinion badly ). Which didn't happen often at all - I can probably count it on one hand for each of them. They were 'silent' criers. Not totally without sound, but you'd have to be very close to them to hear anything.

I never thought about that until now. Certainly they can't be the only ones?

 

[tlcya]

bbm - what does this mean? I fail to make a connection. Medical expertise in which context? Sensitive details?

Hard to know without knowing in what context the hospitals are refusing and what they were asked. One possible is that they have been questioned about whether there have been any injuries or illnesses suffered by searcher(s) and were told that they cannot release such sensitive information due to HIPAA . Just a guess on my part.

 

[lonetraveler]

I suspect that reporters, not getting some of the answers they want from LE, have taken to hounding the hospitals about this case.

It could be questions such as - How long can a child be in the elements and still be alive? What sort of injuries might one expect a child to have after being lost in the woods? Have any searchers been injured during the searches? If so what kind?

Who knows. Sounds like this particular reporter is trying very hard to find something to write about in the absence of any breaking news. JMO.

Yes, when the Sheriff doesn't give any info, the public including the press will try to fill in the blanks themselves.

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[angels among us]

I'm not up to what the area was like.
Water?
Rocks?
or flat forrest?

How fast were ppl looking?

I just remember how very vocal my boys were at terrible 2 u could hear them in Calif from New jersey.

So yes I'm thinking something happened to him.

Rough terrain... forest, creeks, caves, sinkholes up to 12 feet deep is my understanding.

 

[Eileen730]

Rough terrain... forest, creeks, caves, sinkholes up to 12 feet deep is my understanding.

Sheesh why were they even out there?