AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #25

[AutumnFalls]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I am wondering what happened to the outfit Summer was wearing when she first arrived to H's house. H said CW had changed SW into her bathing suit while at his house. There was nothing said about having left the outfit at his house, and if so, did she pick it up afterward? CW says she changed SW into dry clothes after the swim.. obviously before the ride to take H home. Where did she remove her bathing suit and change SW into the outfit? Did H mention this change of clothing during his interview? Why did CW say SW's new outfit was the only thing she had to put on her? Why couldn't she wear the same clothing she wore when she started out that day?

“The only outfit that I had was her brand-new one we got for her to go to kindergarten,” Bly said. “It was a suit, of course, pants and a sweater. I got it probably about a week before. It was still in Mom’s truck. It was the only change of clothes because we did not plan to go swimming that day.

“So, I just figured we’ll change her out and put her in these. That way she’ll be warm. She won’t freeze to death on the way home,” Bly said.

Wells nightmare worsens as boys removed

I can't remember which interview with CW (By CM) it was but CW states that Summer was in her swimsuit around the house before the went swimming because of the heat. So, she didn't really have any other clothes (except her school ones) from my understanding.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

The choices I listed are DW’s statements about thee red truck.

The point I was trying to make was the difference between "A" and "THE." It was said that "A" red truck was at the end of the driveway; it was said that "A" red truck was found in a different county; it was said that a neighbor drove "A" red truck. But I don't believe that anyone has said that they know / knew the location of "THE" red truck.

 

[RANCH]

Around 28:50

I listened to this and DW did seem to know something about a single individual that he thought was a drug dealer. He did go on to say that there are other "places" but he didn't know where they are at.

In my opinion he sounds like he has heard rumors about one specific individual and less specific rumors about other possible dealers. Nothing in his statements lead me to believe he has personal knowledge of their activities.

His wanting LE to check them out is understandable. His wanting to go after them himself is not a good idea but I can see where he was coming with his daughter being missing. JMO.

 

[RANCH]

The choices I listed are DW’s statements about thee red truck.


Just about all new cars have an Electronic Data Recorder. It’s a “black box” for vehicles. It will give LE a ton of information.

Your Vehicle Black Box: A 'Witness' Against You In Court

Looks like the "black box" records a lot of things except location.

As of May 2018, almost all common US vehicles come standard with a black box installed. That means that every time you get behind the wheel, every button you press and every maneuver you make is being recorded. The data is stored in the black box to be readily accessible after collisions, such as seatbelt closure, brake usage, blinker usage, travel speed, etc

The data included airbag deployment, engine speed, brake status, throttle position, engine revolutions, driver's seat belt status and brake switch status, as well as time from maximum deceleration to impact, time from vehicle impact to airbag deployment, and diagnostic information on the vehicle's systems.

Your Vehicle Black Box: A 'Witness' Against You In Court

 

[hdo82]

Looks like the "black box" records a lot of things except location.




Your Vehicle Black Box: A 'Witness' Against You In Court

Could the dealership have a separate GPS device on the vehicle as they are making payments on it. Just a thought I have heard of this before.

 

[RANCH]

Could the dealership have a separate GPS device on the vehicle as they are making payments on it. Just a thought I have heard of this before.

Maybe.

 

[k-mac]

Messenger is used through wifi not cell service.

Wifi must be better in their area.

yes this is a mute point IMO.

Messenger phone does not use cell service.

It still leaves a digital trail however so that helps LE establish their stories as fact or not.

moo

 

[SLouTh]

Looks like the "black box" records a lot of things except location

Do most new cars in the US come with Sat Nav???

They do in Aus… that info can also be downloaded and “the location married up” with the black box info… whether or not you are actually using your GPS…..

Subaru’s of that model come with GPS in Aus ….

 

[Sillybilly]

Good Night everyone !!

Thread is closed until morning.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Thread is open

 

[Alethea]

Good morning, I can't believe we are still here.

 

[LoveyG]

It was:

A. At the bottom of the driveway at 3am with a messy-haired woman in it

B. Found in a neighboring county with the plates removed

C. Parked at a neighbors house

D. All of the.above

E. We don't know anything about a red truck.

 

[justaparent]

I’ve never understood this part about DW calling to tell them a suspicious man was on the property and then everyone just goes about their day. It seems like if this is a true statement, the obvious first step would be to call LE to report it, IMO. Were the boys on the property at that time? Wouldn’t that be scary for the parents to hear? Even if nobody was home at that time, then CW/CH/SW are all just hanging outside the home when they get home doing their planting… if there was the call about a strange man on the property earlier wouldn’t that make people wary? IMO.

H claimed that in his interview with CM, saying DW had called and said it. In one of her interviews with CM, CW denied that anything like that was said.

So it depends on who you think is more believable.

jmo

 

[SMK777]

Good morning, I can't believe we are still here.

And that we’re still here without any actual progress:

• Summer not found, alive or deceased
• No named POIs or suspects
• No arrests

 

[SMK777]

H claimed that in his interview with CM, saying DW had called and said it. In one of her interviews with CM, CW denied that anything like that was said.

So it depends on who you think is more believable.

jmo

True. But it makes me wonder, what would H’s motive be for fabricating this story?

 

[rosesfromangels]

Good morning, I can't believe we are still here.

Big sigh....yes.
Many have meticulously chronicled the commentary from the main players, and attempted to create a rational timeline that could surface indicators of what happened to SW.

There are critical missing pieces of info, and material discrepancies. In the frenzy of trying to find a missing child, some of this is to be expected. Maybe some of the fuzziness is a result of one of the main players attempting to reposition events to look less negligent. We just don't know. Many things have been suggested, but without firsthand knowledge.

The only people that have firsthand knowledge of the chain of events that day are CW, her mother (the G'Ma), H, SW's siblings (the boys), and to some extent, DW.

By now, expert authorities have interviewed all of the above, and will clearly know where the gaps/discrepancies are, and who (IF anyone) is being deceptive. I have no doubt that authorities have been carefully monitoring any post-event collusion, which will further support discovery and a resolution to this case.

It is my *amateur opinion and speculation* that an arrest is imminent; as quickly as the DA has the digital forensics sorted out.

 

[rosesfromangels]

True. But it makes me wonder, what would H’s motive be for fabricating this story?

Speculation only, he was trying to hide activities he should not be involved in.
Which, is impossible at this point.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[nyvictoria]

Looks like the "black box" records a lot of things except location.
Your Vehicle Black Box: A 'Witness' Against You In Court

LE will get GPS info from phones. If DW was on the phone with CBW the whole way home, that indicates his phone was on and the GPS data should be available. If location services were turned off, it would look a bit suspicious. LE might wonder if he was trying to hide something.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Looks like the "black box" records a lot of things except location.




Your Vehicle Black Box: A 'Witness' Against You In Court

Each vehicle may be different, however in BM’s case the data was provided right down to the door opening events and the brake lights:
SUZANNE MORPHEW: Where was Barry Morphew on May 9 and 10? | FOX31 Denver

 

[justaparent]

True. But it makes me wonder, what would H’s motive be for fabricating this story?

In my opinion I don’t believe he did.