trial day 31: the defense continues it's case in chief #87

[JusticeJunkie]

Sorry to quote myself but I just had what passes for one of Arias' evil thoughts. Could she have got the bruises from someone else, then when she went to see Matt and DB told them they were from Travis??? THEN photographed them?

Well, she did say Matt saw them, but DB couldn't because of the make-up, so that's the SECOND time she went on a trip and saw them both.
I want DB to testify again SOOOO bad.

 

[kaRN]

Sorry to quote myself but I just had what passes for one of Arias' evil thoughts. Could she have got the bruises from someone else, then when she went to see Matt and DB told them they were from Travis??? THEN photographed them?

She could have placed them there herself with blue eye shadow. Nobody abuses JA. She abuses them.

 

[paperwing]

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring my own tragedy into this forum...but I was ( and am), so appalled that JA is trying to claim PTSD....
I am at a loss for words

Don't apologize - you're among friends and supporters here!! Many, sadly have experienced devastating tragedies, trauma, abuse... :grouphug:

I'm at a loss for words, too...

 

[RadarLuv]

I am also watching JVM "contemporaneously". The virual jury says not guilty by 83%????? WHAT?

edit: I think the virtual guilty is about Juan being to aggressive.

 

[KandyKane]

I'm hoping they're wrong. That would be kind of like stooping to the DT's level by attacking the character of the witness, and not the testimony (kinda like WS TOS LoL isn't it?). I'm pretty sure JM won't stoop to those tactics. He'll be able to discredit him based on his testimony without going there.

It isn't stooping. He'd be a really terrible attorney if he didn't "stoop". The credibility of the expert is what MAKES them an expert. If their credibility is in question than so is their testimony.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring my own tragedy into this forum...but I was ( and am), so appalled that JA is trying to claim PTSD....
I am at a loss for words

Please don't ever apologize. This is a place to vent, share, and learn. I thank you for being brave enough to tell your horrendous story. And I hope you got at least some relief in the form of justice for your darling daughter.

 

[paperwing]

Yes. He said June 3rd.

Well, that's a year before the murder... I thought it was a selfie she took in her moving van - and not taken for the specific reason of showing the bruises. (Then again, that's what JA said, so there you go).

There must be a reason it wasn't admissible. Probably because it didn't prove/show anything useful. (?)

 

[Madeleine74]

Ya know, as illuminating as it is to get a birdseye view of a trial day-by-day, moment-by-moment, I actually think it's a negative thing for some percentage of the people who follow.

The kind of stuff we see in this trial goes on every day in trials all across the country. This is nothing new. There's nothing unique here. This is really the bread 'n butter (kind of SOP) of defense teams for the most part. Most of the time, the vast majority of the time, these shenanigans don't work and the jury convicts.

But the angst, anger, frustration, nail biting, tears, and emotion for some folks is such that I truly think watching a trial and following a case like this closely is harmful. This is tough stuff and it's not for everyone. My hope is that anyone who is suffering in watching/following this trial (or really any trial ) will recognize when it's time to step back and focus elsewhere and leave it behind. It's not worth one's health or well-being and getting to that level doesn't do a thing but create more suffering. :twocents:

 

[kaRN]

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring my own tragedy into this forum...but I was ( and am), so appalled that JA is trying to claim PTSD....
I am at a loss for words

You have every right to be basilcat!! Please know we're all disgusted and appalled on your behalf as well but fear not!! This witness will be destroyed on cross. I already heard hints today of him turning on his client or at least setting the stage for his cross examination.

 

[Hopeful One]

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring my own tragedy into this forum...but I was ( and am), so appalled that JA is trying to claim PTSD....
I am at a loss for words

Do NOT ever apologize for that. We are all here for you and we love the fact that you can open up to us.

We may be a faceless group of people but we're real and we care.

 

[bexlex]

I'm so sorry for your loss.
My PTSD is from a very similar event...in Jan 2006 I stopped at my son's apartment and found he had died in his sleep. I've been in therapy for 7 years and still have flashbacks with the physical reactions. I wish I could stop reliving it, but I can't.

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gentle loving hugs to (((Tiki & Wing)))

Tiki, I am so sorry you lost him. I wish to send you much love, hugs and peace!

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Yes. He said June 3rd.

And she moved back the first part of APRIL, and that's when she saw them both. Hmmm

 

[paperwing]

I am also watching JVM "contemporaneously". The virual jury says not guilty by 83%????? WHAT?

edit: I think the virtual guilty is about Juan being to aggressive.

I think their question for the night was, "Is the prosecutor too aggressive?" The in-studio jury was 11-1 not guilty.
edit: Oh you got the answer while i was typing. hee!

 

[megmono]

I am also watching JVM "contemporaneously". The virual jury says not guilty by 83%????? WHAT?

edit: I think the virtual guilty is about Juan being to aggressive.

83 percent believe Juan is not guilty of being too aggressive. My hubbs got confused too

 

[Whisperer]

That's what she tried to make it sound like but JM made a point of referring to her photograph on June 3rd. He wasn't allowed to show the pic but that is what he was referring to...

moo

...okiedokiethen....maybe one of her boyfriends she visited in CA wised up and tried to choke the living ***** out of er.

:drink:

 

[SunDawnn]

She clearly takes something out of the folder. I can not tell you what it is though. She is looking to see who is watching her IMO.
BTW she took the orange folder with her at the end of court.

I think it's an eraser.

 

[RadarLuv]

I think their question for the night was, "Is the prosecutor too aggressive?" The in-studio jury was 11-1 not guilty.

You right. That is what happens when I worked all day and come in and try to put all the pieces together all at once. Whewwww. I think I am having problems with my hippocampous. Or the part that is shaped like a seahorse as the fine Dr. says.

 

[moonbird]

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring my own tragedy into this forum...but I was ( and am), so appalled that JA is trying to claim PTSD....
I am at a loss for words

please don't be sorry for anything! imo, you have a right to be angry, a right to share your pain, and a forum full of people who do not fault you for doing that.
my heart aches for you, your family... i relate to your pain (i am also diagnosed with PTSD, but my baby died in a different way)..

i also understand your disgust with what the DT is doing to people who live with the devastating consequences of the choices that people like j.a. make - they destroy lives.

hugs to (((you and KPinMN)))...

 

[popsicle]

I am also watching JVM "contemporaneously". The virual jury says not guilty by 83%????? WHAT?

edit: I think the virtual guilty is about Juan being to aggressive.

Juan is NG of being to rough with JA

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

What are we all going to do when this trial is over anic:. Well said Hopeful One, I am going to miss each and every person here when this is over. It's going to be a painful withdrawal.

There will be more trials, and we will gather again for those victims that get lost in the courtroom, and are blamed for their own murder.

Unfortunately, evil will always be with us. It's a matter of ones soul or lack of that our choices are made from.