trial day 41: the defense continues its case in chief #122

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Watching the NG replay of JW's direct today, and I love how the DT is handing the prosecution their case. Wilma asks ALV if in his e-mail, or text message, or IM (cause she's confused when it comes to that there technology stuff) TA said "you're the worst thing that ever happened to me". ALV says yes. If I was sitting on that jury that would resonate with me. She actually WAS the worst thing that ever happened to him wasn't she? How much "worse" can it get than being brutally murdered? It's justice for Travis when the words of the defense attorneys are telling his story for him. And then Juan comes in and tidy's up all the garbage the DT throws out there and it's all good :great:.
 
At the end of the day, while the rest of the courtroom observers left, the brunette and the blonde talked to the mitigation specialist while Nurmi talked to LaViolette.
Then they walked out of the courtroom arm and arm with LaViolette.








Priceless. That is absolutely priceless. Thank you!

Ok :offtobed: fur the realz.
 
I also have great respect for your posts and try to read all of them I can.

Regarding that list you gave, what kind of proof does the Jury have of any of that? I've heard an interview where she confronted a female friend of Travis in the bathroom, but did the Jury hear that? Plus, that now looks different to me now that I know TA was cheating on her, lying about it, and gaslighting her. That type of behavior can make you crazy. Going through phone and online accounts fits into the same category of trying to deal with someone who is cheating on you and lying about it. Again, has the Jury seen proof of that? I'm also not sure if stalking has been proven.

But, even so, all this now looks different to me in the light of their relationship and how he was treating her.

As far as interviewing TA, ALV has thousands of his own words in his most intimate and unguarded moments where he had no expectation of a third party listening in. She has been exposed to information that we have not.

IMO

She has also not heard one bit of evidence that even hints at Travis being physically abusive. I believe you are being dangerously naive. This is a murder case and the only evidence that should matter to a jury is what actually can be proven. There is no evidence, other than the from the mouth a a lying, self interested defendant for murder, that Travis ever laid a hand on any woman. Your belief that because a man is a cheater and philanderer he is capable of physical violence is just ludicrous and it plays right into the defenses only hope for a lesser sentence for Ms Arias, the only person who has admitted to the any act of violence in this case.

ALV is not counseling someone who has been in an abusive situation. Those people have nothing to gain from her therapy but hopefully being able to deal with their abuse. I am sure ALV does a commendable job of helping men and women deal with abuse, but that is not her role in this courtroom. I don't care how many pages of journals, emails, texts etc or home many hours of tapes or how many sessions she has had with the only admitted lying abuser in this case she cannot possible predict who is telling the truth and who is or is not an abuser. She can also not prove in any way shape or form that the defendant shot the victim and mutilated his body in self defense. Her testimony is a joke with as much validity as a fairy tale which is exactly what Mr. Martinez will convince the jury of by the time his cross is over.
 
She was reading all the text messages back and forth.

Text messages are real time.

She was reading all the emails back and forth.

It's a brave new world

IMO

No you are mistaken. Real time is witnessing an actual conversation with your own eyes and ears and understanding the context because you witness it in real time.

This Registered Nurse wants proof of your comment re psychopaths being ace abusers. Pony up the proof. Link please. That's how it works here.
 
More than that. JA's journals are lies. What she told ALV were lies. And the texts are taken out of context so they're not reliable sources either.

She even cited an interview with Matt that she read!

It's ALL based on lies.

I meant what lies JM can prove in court to the jury. Right now, they are the ones who matter most in deciding this case.

In the court of public opinion, we know she is guilty, but we cannot convict her or sentence her.
 
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you go tiger with the pics, love it!! :floorlaugh:
iircc Yes the mitigation specialist was the loudest laugh out of the 3.. isn't that misconduct of some sort? nohecknomorechicaswholaughallowedbackinthecourtroom >> someone needs to get Starbucks to the bailiff pronto!

That woman is so unprofessional. Even JA wasn't laughing.
 
The title was "Is Snow White a battered woman" because it was catchy.

In other words, I conned people into paying for my speaking engagement with a catchy title..

BTW, :seeya: Disney I put you and Snow White on blast today, so feel free to sue me for copyright infringement.

:rolleyes:
:sigh:
 
Can anyone confirm that the DT tried to hire many other DV or PTSD experts but they all high tailed it and said NOPE!? I thought I heard that ALV was their last gasp....
 
I think JA is very passive/agressive. She liked to stoke the fire and then sit back and enjoy the reaction she got, all while she acts like the innocent in the situation. Sad that all of those harsh words that she very much deserved are being used against Travis now, when he's the one that's dead.

I'm looking forward to more of JM's cross on Monday. Mz Violet better get her rest this weekend, because Juan will be relentless. Despite the guffaws from the peanut gallery today, he is focussed. And I have absolute faith that he will cut through the "fog" and expose this DT witness for what she is. A paid mouthpiece for the defense. Nothing more.

Exactly. That is the same exact impression I got from Jodi's emails.

She even did it during the trial when she casually and calmly threw out the outrageous allegations of pedophilia with no basis to support it. She knew it would cause one heck of a reaction from all who heard it, and she then sits back like she never even said it. She relishes in this stuff.

I am confident Juan will take care of business with ALV next week. ALV deserves everything that is coming her way because she is purposely testifying about something that she knows is based only on Jodi's lies, and she is only doing it for the money. This is one of the most low down cruel things a person could do.

And if anyone even remotely has a doubt they are lies, then where is a single 3rd party that witnessed any physical abuse from Travis. There isnt anybody. In fact, there are many other people that say just the opposite and how nice Travis was to people.
 
If I had a murdered love one, I would not want JM in the courtroom.

There is a big difference between being passionate about something and acting as he does....and that is JMO

Everyone is different, every situation is different, but in this case, someone aggressive, quick, and with a no BS attitude is necessary. Judging by the sister's expressions, he is going at this exactly how they would hope the prosecutor would.
 
Because ALV has had a lot of experience with liars. Abused women lie to everyone all the time.

Because ALV has had a lot of experience with psychopaths. Psychopaths are ace abusers. She never calls Jodi a psychopath after 44 hours of interviews.

Because ALV had access to real time conversations, thousands of words between them, as well as conversations with others, and private writings of both, and knows how to analyze them as an objective observer.

IMO

Your right, ALV never called JA a psychopath.....duh she's been paid thousands of dollars not to. She isn't an objective observer but a paid DT witness. She gave her paid opinion of those texts, IMs and emails between people, that doesn't mean her opinion is correct. Mark my words, I'm 100% sure Juan will prove next week that she twisted many things to make it look like something it wasn't.:moo:

All your posts are pro JA and while you're not outright rude you must realize siding with the defendant isn't very victim friendly, which this site is. If you feel that Travis got what he deserved and JA was a victim, why not go to JII where people will share your opinion.:moo:
 
Oh boy. I have to also disagree with the majority. I just started watching cross. I dislike what Laviolette did during direct. I think she lacked credibility and came at the case from a position of deep bias. But I don't think she gave a bought opinion like Samuels did.

I think this lady actually believes what she testified to.

And even though her testimony was frustrating and felt cruel at times, I don't think she is hated like Samuels was. I think her opinion lacked credibility and I disliked it. But I Think she herself is like able and Juan Martinez is making a mistake by yelling at her and acting frustrated.

While Laviolette may be "likeable" under other circumstances, this is a murder trial, not a friendly debate between opposing views. People believe all kind of things that are not rational. I know folks who are completely deluded on certain topics to where it's scary. Yet, they are otherwise likeable, trustworthy folks.

If Laviolette believes what she was spouting on the stand under direct, she's not in touch with reality. I'll go a step further and say she's being willfully obtuse with her stance on domestic violence and that all women are victims. She's putting her own personal filter on every interaction she examines, and stubbornly refusing to consider any alternatives. Again, that is an individual's right, you can believe what you believe. But when you put yourself in the position of testifying in a trial, you can't expect to be handled with care and respect. You better expect (and be prepared) to have your position come under heavy fire. Don't like? Stay off the stand. Sorry, she gets no sympathy from me there.

I personally don't see one thing likeable about her based on her testimony. Even if you are compassionate as Mother Theresa, you aren't doing domestic violence victims (exclusively female in her mind) a bit of good by reinforcing that they are helpless victims. And to say males are always the perpetrators of abuse is sexist and insulting.
 
If I had a murdered love one, I would not want JM in the courtroom.

There is a big difference between being passionate about something and acting as he does....and that is JMO

Oh no... I would want Martinez on my side...
He makes me feel like this:
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:twocents::twocents::twocents:
 
Because most abused women do not recognize the extreme danger they are in, even if they voice it. My friend made me executor of her will. On some level she knew she was in danger. I begged her not to go back to her home state where he was. She went back. Two months later she was dead.IMO

Molly - I do think ALV understands abuse and most likely does a fine job when she is working with people who truly are abused. However, ALV was fed a one-sided story by the defense. She is not permitted to make a clinical psychiatric diagnosis. Domestic violence is not listed in the DSM IV TR as a clinical diagnosis (that was JM's point today). ALV was hired and paid to specifically give her opinion on domestic abuse, which she can talk nonstop about as we've seen.

But, if you listened carefully to what she said, most anybody could be accused of being abusive if they wrote nasty texts during an argument. If you coupled those nasty texts with a person who made up despicable stories about you, and threw in you were a pedophile, then you have what we have here. A horrible example of justice gone wrong. Obviously, the DT is not looking for the truth.

Please keep in mind that no physical abuse was ever documented. ALV's conclusion of Travis having abused JA is based SOLELY on JA's changing lies. JA conveniently invented new ways to explain away why she didn't do the normal things that normal people do when they suffer abuse. With her, she's either in a "fog" or somehow the victim. It's garbage and here's an example of what I mean.

ALV NEVER ONCE TALKED ABOUT JA'S ABNORMAL PATTERNS OF BEHAVIOR AS IT RELATES TO JODI - AND NOT SOMEBODY ELSE!

Whose fault is it that Jodi kicked her dog, hit her brother over the head with a baseball bat, dropped out of school, left home at an early age, engaged in substance abuse, entered into multiple sexual relationships, and kicked her mother? Whose fault is it that Jodi jumped from job to job, was financially irresponsible and didn't follow through with paying the mortgage on a home, which led to foreclosure? Whose fault is it that Jodi has always been impulsive and manipulative? Whose fault is it that Jodi burglarized her grandparent's home and committed a brutal murder?

These unchecked abnormal psychological patterns have been with Jodi since she's been a child. Because they were unchecked, Jodi's acts of aggression grew from whacking her brother over the head with a baseball bat to murder and she needs to be stopped!

She has shown no remorse, she blames everybody else for her inappropriate behavior, she's a pathological liar, and she manipulates people (including expert witnesses and her own DT).

Her own mother stated that Jodi has mental issues.

Her own father stated that Jodi is strange.

Her own friends tried to get help for Jodi by trying to enlist the help of her mother.

Mutual friends of Jodi and Travis kicked her out of their home. There are numerous statements from friends that Jodi was a creepy stalker who couldn't stay away, and even climbed through Travis' doggie door.

Did everybody abuse JA to make her lash out at them all? Not possible.

Enough is enough with this woman. She's not a victim - she does the victimizing. She's not an abused woman - she's a narcissistic sociopath.

So I respectfully disagree and hope I gave you something to consider as well.

Finally, I think JM is doing a superb job! I had no problem following his thought process of Snow White.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :gavel:
 
ALV has based any and all of her "impressions" on the words of a confirmed liar. BOOM! No further questions necessary. It's so simple it's stupid, actually.
 
Did I hear somewhere that the defense has another witness after Alyce? Please tell me that isn't true. Also, does anyone know the schedule for next week? Thank you!
 
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
Serenity now Nhic, serenity now. People say lots of things they can't link to and make claims they have no way of substantiating. This too shall pass!!
 
Glad to see Juan in action. He is going to use ALV to educate people on DV where men are the victims, specifically Travis. I can't wait for him to pick back up next week.

I bet in a million years ALV never expected to help male victims of abuse on such a public scale.

I am pretty darn happy about that.
 
Someone said earlier here that the Alexander family, friends and supporters along with media are on one side, the other side is for JA family so that's the only place #5 was able to sit. ??

The defendants part of the room doesn't fill up like the families side. And I think she was put as far away from the Jury as possible. I just hope she goes home and doesn't do anything until after the verdict. Everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame but it better not be at the cost of justice for Travis.:furious:
 
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