missed some questions . . .
was JA the greater perp?
no . . the DV was prior to 6/4 . . the "defensive episode" was on 6/4 . . . look @ . . .
violence - high violence - when person is defending their life they do more than they need to do.
DV relationship must there also be physical abuse
no
if no physical abuse change their relationship
no it doesn't - psychological abuse . . .books written about coersive abuse, emotional abuse . . testimony from people on the other side of that abuse . . . no physical violence I have worked with people who come in shaking, withdrawn . . manipulation/control/putdowns/power differences . . . person in that relationship slowly sunk . . not happens all at once very gradual . . often people don't see it happening until it has happened.
if no physical violence did you have enough to make the call
if I didn't have enough to make the call I wouldn't be sitting her
battered woman oesn't have to be perfect -f aults as well?
correct . . .there may be people who are victim/survivor of DV male or female that I don't particularly like or feel good or they may need mental help . . maybe situational, do things I don't like or habits I don't like doesn't mean they are not abused . . . not cause and effect . . . just like living with someone with an addiction . .. people get upset with addict . . that is why people go to Al-Anon . . .in this case I think it would b e terrific if there had been help.
mens groups what they have done . . . why they are there . .
I liked almost all the people in my groups there have been maybe 3 or 4 people and that is why I have co-facilitatior . . . people are not one-dimensional
is TA have lots likeable qualities
he did - had wonderful qualities, able to motivate people. . I remember when Ms Arias
objection
I didn't ask this question . . may we approach?