Trial Discussion Thread #12 - 14.03.24, Day 14

[Viper]

OP is just looking down or drawing flowers or something, so this witness is probably going to hurt!!!

 

[zwiebel]

Missed that - he established a number was not correct for one phone?

 

[Trooper]

he was under the impression that this was the only phone the accused owned..

but no. he then allocates a number to another device.. he gets the number from the internet service providors. he finds an error in the numbers..

you then got detailed billing on a ANOTHER phone?? yes.

inside the blackberries, were stored 2 simcards. we applied for the data , AND THE SERIAL numbers of the 2 blackberries..

I got then, THREE sets of billing. this was alarming. I had 2 devices..

the handset seized from the accused, hd a diff number the accused had another phone

this phone was last used, 3 months before the incident.

 

[zwiebel]

He had to get serial numbers for blackberries as well as the sim cards. Only received three sets of bills...accused had a second cell that was not seized.

OP hid a phone.

 

[Interested Bystander]

From what I saw, Roux was there but completely blocked from the camera by OW except when OW moved to one side or bent over.

Thank you. I completely missed him. Was he there all morning or only after tea/coffee break?

 

[zwiebel]

Blackberries seized not used since two/three months before killing.

 

[Trooper]

the 2 simcards, were what is called a SIM SWAP...

now. .blackberries are making use of the usual simcard. . the owner had to obtain 2 new simcards,, to use this phone. exactly the same phone number, diff serial numbers.


you then got billing details for 3 devices. 2 from vodaphone, 1 from Deepa.

 

[zwiebel]

OP had the same number but different sims? He got three bills. Original sim, upgraded sim and Reeva's ?

 

[G.bng]

Thank you. I completely missed him. Was he there all morning or only after tea/coffee break?

Like the witnesses I wasn't timing it so couldn't really confirm one way or t'other but I seem to recall (being cagey here in case you turn out to be a Roux3) seeing him more than once but less than 5 times, but exactly at what point of the morning, no idea. But... I wasn't watching all the time anyway, just listening while writing.

 

[zwiebel]

FM: I did normal extraction on phone of the deceased.....it would have been 2,688 pages to print it out for court.

 

[zwiebel]

He did a 'jailbreak' on the device. So he could install other software other than Apple stuff. So could install forensic device to extract deleted data as well. Another 55,000 pages!

 

[G.bng]

Bet the defence will have printed the how many thousand page report...

 

[Viper]

Ooooooh no!!! He can recover deleted information!!!

 

[Trooper]

you link the device to the computer.. cable, infrared.. you then extract the data saved on the device.

you can extract 2 types. logical. all the data the USER has put on it. incoming outgoing chat, text. pics. I did that.

2688 pages of info.

jailbreak?? this is another way of downloading.. a sort of defining device.

thi enable us to recover deleted data.

that gave us more data. 55,000 pages..

 

[zwiebel]

He read through 700 plus of actual msgs from Reeva's phone.

 

[Trooper]

you have to set up an account. .. the provider sends you email.

when I extracted. I found 2 email addresses. reevs at something and reeva at gmail.

 

[Trooper]

evidence tabled.

343 pages. of his report. he includes ALL the chats, all the communication , between reeva, and Oscar..

 

[minor4th]

blah blah blah ...I hate technical evidence. Let's get to the juicy stuff

 

[Trooper]

10 oages of this report = messages between osca and reeva

 

[zwiebel]

He established two particular msgs on the phone reevasteenkamp@hotmail.com

....I think. Missed first one. Couldn't find my @ on this ipad keyboard.