Trial Discussion Thread #37 - 14.05.12 Day 30

[AlexUK]

Hard to tell by the voice

Praps we have a 'Eurovision' situation? :blushing:

 

[bloodmeridian]

I hate this 'TWINKIE' defense BS....

 

[JudgeJudi]

He wants to control the environment, and his girlfriends.

Tea adjournment

 

[kaos]

What extra security measures did he add to his property?

And if he's so controlled about his environment, wouldn't he also have made sure there were never obstackles in his pathways around his house instead of leaving clothing, ipads etc spread around the room?

 

[jay-jay]

You could say all this sort of rubbish about any killer .. it's not proof of whether they did or didn't kill intentionally.

 

[jay-jay]

He wants to control the environment, and his girlfriends.

Tea adjournment

Yep, definitely controlling!

 

[Trooper]

ok, read MERYL VORSTER for my ridiculous Neal Forster. hehe.

 

[JudgeJudi]

And if he's so controlled about his environment, wouldn't he also have made sure there were never obstackles in his pathways around his house instead of leaving clothing, ipads etc spread around the room?

Not mention leaving the balcony door wide open at night.

 

[jay-jay]

Praps we have a 'Eurovision' situation? :blushing:

:floorlaugh:

 

[zwiebel]

V: In a way, his strict diet and training helped alleviate his anxiety, but at the same time the increasing media exposure meant he had to be more careful...

Teattime

Seems the summary of that was, OP traumatized by operation and then made fearful by;
Inadequate parenting
Loss of mother
Trying to appear normal
Trying to maintain success and cope with media

 

[Trooper]

oh I 've got more anxiety disorder than Oscar. I even make my dog close her kennel door.

 

[Interested Bystander]

This is worth a read in the break. Anxiety disorders are often associated with other psychological disorders.

Anxiety disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ColonelMustard]

Actually, she went through everything pretty quickly. I honestly expected her to go through his life much more slowly.

 

[BritsKate]

Anxiety disorders are a group of mental illnesses that cause people to feel excessively frightened, distressed, or uneasy during situations in which most other people would not experience these same feelings. When they are not treated, anxiety disorders can be severely impairing and can negatively affect a person’s personal relationships or ability to work or study. In the most severe cases, anxiety disorders can make even regular and daily activities such as shopping, cooking or going outside incredibly difficult. Anxiety disorders can further cause low self-esteem, lead to substance abuse, and isolation from one’s friends and family.

http://www.nami.org/Content/Navigat...ntal_Illness/By_Illness/Anxiety_Disorders.htm

From my POV, it's shocking someone with so severe a disorder could accomplish so much. I suffer anxiety, post-abusive relationship, and some days I struggle with even the concept of having to leave my house, much less actually doing so. Those days are a fair few.

 

[Val1]

Gee, I wonder if circumcision will now become the new excuse for male murderers....

 

[JudgeJudi]

I can imagine Vorster being quite feisty once Nel starts. I think he's going to enjoy this.

 

[Interested Bystander]

oh I 've got more anxiety disorder than Oscar. I even make my dog close her kennel door.

:floorlaugh:

 

[Trooper]

for a bloke with anxiety disorder, he sure as hell like to CAUSE anxiety in people. firing off a gun in a car, in a restaurant. .. shirtfronting blokes for a fight..

 

[JudgeJudi]

Yep, definitely controlling!

But the one thing he can't control is himself.

 

[Bobbie Elliott]

You could say all this sort of rubbish about any killer .. it's not proof of whether they did or didn't kill intentionally.

You could also say this about lots of people who haven't killed anyone and are unlikely to do so in the future.