Well, Chad did turn himself from a sow's ear into a silk purse, didn't he, but it didn't last for long.
GUILTY TRIAL OF CHAD DAYBELL CHARGED WITH MURDER OF JJ VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN AND TAMMY DAYBELL #8
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aafromaa
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Sorry about that. I had posted the link while it was live from the judge’s channel and I guess it was unavailable after the live ended or something. I’m really not sure what happened but I apologize for whatever I might have done that caused that.As you can see - the video says "private" - so do not know what that is about...
Thank you for this update. Any time for that hearing? TIA!
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It was a status hearing regarding the post sentencing or post trial petition filed by the defense on July 17th - new defense atty is Ian Thomson (public defender - capital cases). I haven’t seen the petition but apparently asking for new trial based on ineffectiveness of counsel but may include more than that too - I’m not sure. I didn’t know the hearing was coming up but guess I’m still subscribed to Judge B’s channel because it appeared in my YouTube feed while i was looking for something else lol.
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Thanks for that video - I can access this one! I do not believe they said what time the hearing is - so I shall put it at 10am as someone said above.
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While I acknowledge the intricacies of his profession and the obvious...difficulties surrounding his client, I am not really a fan of Prior. That said, I hope that Prior is successfully able to prove he did the best with what he had and therefore did not provide ineffective counsel. Sure he made several (IMO) idiotic choices but overall I do not believe he displayed ineffective counsel. MOO.
I'm sure the majority of people sentenced to death probably try to file ineffective counsel. MOO.
I'm sure the majority of people sentenced to death probably try to file ineffective counsel. MOO.
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Pryor actually did a pretty good job, given what he had to work with. Sure, CD didn't get a "Harvard" level outcome, with six attorneys. But he did get what he could afford.
And, in the end, I did watch a trial recently that the defendant spent all of the money in the world on counsel, and was found guilty (Rebecca Grossman). She was found guilty, because she did the crime. Same as CD. Pryor couldn't magically make solid evidence against CD disappear.
And, in the end, I did watch a trial recently that the defendant spent all of the money in the world on counsel, and was found guilty (Rebecca Grossman). She was found guilty, because she did the crime. Same as CD. Pryor couldn't magically make solid evidence against CD disappear.
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Attorneys also can't make long-extant Idaho law disappear. For example, Idaho law states that if the jury finds no "mitigating circumstances," then the defendant must receive the death penalty if charged with capital murder and death is sought.
While not impossible, it's kinda hard for a jury to find mitigating circumstances when the defendant openly chooses to present none via their defense. MOO.
While not impossible, it's kinda hard for a jury to find mitigating circumstances when the defendant openly chooses to present none via their defense. MOO.
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I was just having a look back at the notice of appeal filed by John Prior before appeal counsel were appointed. (from here Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest )
https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR22-21-1623/2024/060325-Notice-of-Appeal.pdf
3.b. states as follows: "Did the court err in ruling Dr. Davidson's report and testimony would be inadmissible in this case?"
This order dated 4th March 2024 seems to be applicable -
https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/...der-to-Seal-States-Motion-in-Limine-Brief.pdf
"On March 4, 2024, the Court received a request to file under seal the STATE'S MOTION IN LIMINE AND BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO EXCLUDE DEFENSE EXPERT JAMES DAVIDSON, PH.D. [...]"
This is a link to the site of Dr. James Davidson Ph.D., forensic and clinical psychologist. I wonder which defendant he evaluated. Probably Lori Vallow, without her co-operation or input, IMO.
Dr. James Davidson - James Davidson Ph.D.
https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR22-21-1623/2024/060325-Notice-of-Appeal.pdf
3.b. states as follows: "Did the court err in ruling Dr. Davidson's report and testimony would be inadmissible in this case?"
This order dated 4th March 2024 seems to be applicable -
https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/...der-to-Seal-States-Motion-in-Limine-Brief.pdf
"On March 4, 2024, the Court received a request to file under seal the STATE'S MOTION IN LIMINE AND BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO EXCLUDE DEFENSE EXPERT JAMES DAVIDSON, PH.D. [...]"
This is a link to the site of Dr. James Davidson Ph.D., forensic and clinical psychologist. I wonder which defendant he evaluated. Probably Lori Vallow, without her co-operation or input, IMO.
Dr. James Davidson - James Davidson Ph.D.
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I don't understand the outrage. The property could have been bought by a developer and the families would have no say about its use. The new owner will consult with the victims' families. If the families wanted to have full control, they should have bought it themselves or do fundraising. (JMO)Oh no! KW is upset about someone buying the property and not consulting the families about their plan.
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I can understand. It is a gruesome murder scene for three people. I doubt many murder victim's families would want to visit the place their loved one died or have other people visit it repeatedly. It would be more of a constant opening of a wound rather than a place of healing.
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Tylee and JJ were likely murdered in Lori's (or Alex's) Rexburg apartment, yet nobody is demanding something be done (or not done) with it. Another family is probably living there. Before Chad's house was even put on the market, several people were suggesting online that the entire property should be turned into a park with a memorial to honor the victims. It didn't seem realistic to me at the time. For example, if Chad's children had the money to buy the property back, they wouldn't be asking others for their opinions.
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Lori Hellis has been in contact with the buyers. Apparently there was more than one group interested in the property. One of the others planned to turn the place into a true crime destination. The buyers made a public declaration at this time because they were outed by another local.
LH: "These are people whose heart and money are in the right place and they wanted to do the right thing."
To the local critics LH says: "They (the buyers) are your neighbors." And also: "It is not anyone related to the Daybell family in any way."
They are business owners in the Eastern Idaho community.
It looks like the Daybell children moved out of the house a week ago.
LH: "These are people whose heart and money are in the right place and they wanted to do the right thing."
To the local critics LH says: "They (the buyers) are your neighbors." And also: "It is not anyone related to the Daybell family in any way."
They are business owners in the Eastern Idaho community.
It looks like the Daybell children moved out of the house a week ago.
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Just throwing my 2 cents worth in regarding the property…
It’s a bit of a no win situation for everyone. Families of the victims don’t have a legal right to be consulted but if the buyers are going to try to find a way to honor the victims with some type of memorial then certainly the families should be consulted whether required by law or not. But if that isn’t going to be part of what they are doing then they have purchased the property and should do with it what they want without interference or judgement.
If they are going to set up a non-profit, I can think of a couple of ways that they might make good use of the property and honor the victims without actually turning it into some type of memorial. Perhaps as a recovery center for those who were involved in a cult. Perhaps as a teaching center to show others how to recognize false teachings or teachers or ministries or doomsday books or prophecies. Perhaps as a community garden for produce and/or flowers maybe with a little duck pond in the middle of it.
But the bottom line is that I didn’t buy it so I have no right to say what should or shouldn’t be done with it and neither do the families of the victims. If I understand correctly, the sale hasn’t closed yet and I’m guessing that the buyers would back out if the families wanted to buy it instead. But what would they do with it?
My grandfather always said that land was a precious thing because they aren’t making it anymore. There should be something done with the property because just letting it sit empty and unused seems wrong too.
It’s a bit of a no win situation for everyone. Families of the victims don’t have a legal right to be consulted but if the buyers are going to try to find a way to honor the victims with some type of memorial then certainly the families should be consulted whether required by law or not. But if that isn’t going to be part of what they are doing then they have purchased the property and should do with it what they want without interference or judgement.
If they are going to set up a non-profit, I can think of a couple of ways that they might make good use of the property and honor the victims without actually turning it into some type of memorial. Perhaps as a recovery center for those who were involved in a cult. Perhaps as a teaching center to show others how to recognize false teachings or teachers or ministries or doomsday books or prophecies. Perhaps as a community garden for produce and/or flowers maybe with a little duck pond in the middle of it.
But the bottom line is that I didn’t buy it so I have no right to say what should or shouldn’t be done with it and neither do the families of the victims. If I understand correctly, the sale hasn’t closed yet and I’m guessing that the buyers would back out if the families wanted to buy it instead. But what would they do with it?
My grandfather always said that land was a precious thing because they aren’t making it anymore. There should be something done with the property because just letting it sit empty and unused seems wrong too.