MsFacetious
What a Kerfuffle...
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You'd be surprised at how many youngsters get medicated because their teachers at school suggest they be tested
for misbehaving at school. So often it begins with the schools and it 'could' be to make the teacher's job easier.
But, by the time the child is acting out at school, the parent is playing catch-up for many years of ignoring the problems at home. IMO, most behavior problems begin at home. And IMO, the parents are most times responsible whether
it comes out or they deny it. Could be negligent parents, abusive parents, hyper-religious parents and many more causes. But I firmly believe it starts in the home.
MIL wasn't in church, but his wife's grandmother was, and she was killed.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...grandmother-church-shooting-article-1.3615014
I had seen that...
It appears the MIL and the wife's sister are safe. I guess we just assume the wife and kids are too?
Fine-tuning the details on his targeting locals on Facebook:
"Devin Patrick Kelley spent the months before his attack 'starting drama' with strangers on Facebook and he specifically targeted people from 'within 20 minutes' of the population-400 town where he committed Sundays heinous attack, according to resident Johnathan Castillo."
http://nypost.com/2017/11/06/texas-shooter-trolled-town-on-facebook-before-attack/
What's weird is that it seems like he was specifically targeting his MIL/inlaws, but his Facebook provocations were against the community in general. ??
jmo
A community this small may have been very protective of one of their own and helped her escape him, earning his ire. I came from a town that small, and that's what I suspect.
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I wish LE would just say, "Yes, wife and kids are safe. Please leave them alone." Just one word they are safe would be so nice at this point.
jmo
Yes and I wonder if, because of problems with his ex and ex MIL , he could no longer attend that church. ??
I am just catching up but the idea that he served twelve months for fracturing a child's skull and does not have a felony conviction speaks to something being wrong in the military justice system. He was able to get out become a security guard, was able to buy weapons. I am more than a little horrified.
Imo this is much more than a "domestic situation"...he could've targeted them when they were alone, not surrounded by others. This is classic mass shooter and no different from any of all the other coward mass shooters, moo.
The law is very clear about suggesting or coercing or forcing families to medicate their children. Legally, schools cannot require a child to take medication. Any decisions about medication are the sole purview of the family and their medical professionals.
If the school staff believe a child is showing signs of a condition that might benefit from medication,they can suggest that he be evaluated to see if he qualifies for special education. Theyre allowed to describe the behaviors theyre seeing. They can say how your childs behavior is negatively affecting his learning. But they are not allowed to even bring up medication. Suggesting medication is out of the school's purview as they are not doctors.
On another note, how did this man become a security guard? He was not honorably discharged and had served time for domestic violence. People who knew him experienced character issues. This scenario could have also played out in the resort where he had access to emergency plans and communication systems.
We see a pattern of behaviour though. It increases a little over time. No, I don't think it's a "domestic situation" but I do think that this time, he became so enraged that he wanted to destroy something that may have had meaning to his mil. How do you think she's feeling right now? I'd be second guessing myself all over the place. I'd even probably have some survivor's guilt going on if my sil shot up a church I attended after having it out with me in a text rant. I'd figure he'd thought I'd be there. I feel for her, and his, families, too, in addition to the entire little town. Everyone had to nearly know everyone.
MIL wasn't in church, but his wife's grandmother was, and she was killed.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...grandmother-church-shooting-article-1.3615014
Do you have a link for this?
The Times article states that he admitted that the facts were accurate. This may not constitute a formal conviction. Likewise, it could well be possible for the military to sentence people to confinement without a formal conviction (administrative punishment).
Can you check the link? It didn't work when I clicked it. Tia.
I hate to say it, as it does not apply to all security guards of course, but commonly imo some of these nut jobs become security guards because they can't become cops. And they want the power/sense of authority, etc that cops have.
Try this one:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/devin-patrick-kelley-texas.html
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Do you have a link for this?
The Times article states that he admitted that the facts were accurate. This may not constitute a formal conviction. Likewise, it could well be possible for the military to sentence people to confinement without a formal conviction (administrative punishment).
Because I know for a fact that military court martial cases can have some twists and that they do not always follow the civilian format.
Rather, they can have an administrative adjudication of guilt / punishment, a formal adjudication of guilt / punishment, and / or a combination of both. As to whether or not DK was formally convicted, I don't know. That is why I am asking for a link.
How familiar are you with military court martials?