Found Deceased TX - Caleb Harris, 21, Texas A&M University student, Corpus Christi, 4 Mar 2024 #4

[Sundog]

I know the family recently did an interview with Coffindaffer. Will try to listen though we may not be able to discuss here.

Can you post a link to the family's recent interview with Coffindaffer? NewsNation is an approved source/link on WS, IIRC.

 

[SMK777]

The recent Coffindaffer interview with Caleb’s Dad is on her own X and YouTube channels (and thus can’t be posted here).

 

[Muddy K]

At the beginning I honestly thought he was murdered, considering the rumors of a hookup. But it's clear the police used all their resources and more for the digital investigation and it didn't reveal anything. If it was murder, the murderer would have to be very knowledgeable about digital footprints.

Or the murderer had no need of digital footprints at all because that's not why/how the encounter transpired. JMO.

Don't get me wrong. I don't  need or  want to believe that Caleb Harris was murdered. I'm not invested in that being the only outcome. But it absolutely strains credulity to have to accept the alternative because it is just so astronomically unlikely, IMO.

When I was a kid, a boy down the road from my rural home was pulled into a metal shredder in his family's professional junkyard. It was a freak accident that reverberated for years in our small town. A year or so later, another young boy was killed when playing under a two-lane bridge that crossed a thin creek. He wasn't found for some time because it took however long for LE to determine that he had been smothered beneath by a cascade of wet, muddy dirt that had been dislodged by a large truck that had exceeded weight limits. That was another freak accident that lingered, for sure.

So I do understand and accept that freak accidents happen, and some of them have no witnesses at all, yet can be fully solved, in time, with reverse engineering. What I really cannot fathom here are the odds of the following:

Caleb and his phone accidentally fell into that crop field manhole,
and he was injured in the fall to the extent that he could not cry out or dial out,
and he remained inert in that manhole until decomposition made it possible for his remains to drift (weeks?, months?),
and that field had been searched,
and he and his phone and that manhole were missed again and again until April 18th, when LE responded to the report of the open manhole,
and no evidence of him or his phone were then found there,
and he ended up passing through narrow pipes into a well some distance away but then couldn't pass beyond it into outgoing pipes and instead remained there, suspended in liquid, eventually hanging up on the pump and triggering the alarm which prompted discovery.

Are the odds of all of that really lower than that of an opportunistic predator noticing a barefoot young man apparently loitering near a foggy bridge at 3:00 in the morning? IMO, they're not.

 

[SMK777]

Or the murderer had no need of digital footprints at all because that's not why/how the encounter transpired. JMO.

Don't get me wrong. I don't  need or  want to believe that Caleb Harris was murdered. I'm not invested in that being the only outcome. But it absolutely strains credulity to have to accept the alternative because it is just so astronomically unlikely, IMO.

When I was a kid, a boy down the road from my rural home was pulled into a metal shredder in his family's professional junkyard. It was a freak accident that reverberated for years in our small town. A year or so later, another young boy was killed when playing under a two-lane bridge that crossed a thin creek. He wasn't found for some time because it took however long for LE to determine that he had been smothered beneath by a cascade of wet, muddy dirt that had been dislodged by a large truck that had exceeded weight limits. That was another freak accident that lingered, for sure.

So I do understand and accept that freak accidents happen, and some of them have no witnesses at all, yet can be fully solved, in time, with reverse engineering. What I really cannot fathom here are the odds of the following:

Caleb and his phone accidentally fell into that crop field manhole,
and he was injured in the fall to the extent that he could not cry out or dial out,
and he remained inert in that manhole until decomposition made it possible for his remains to drift (weeks?, months?),
and that field had been searched,
and he and his phone and that manhole were missed again and again until April 18th, when LE responded to the report of the open manhole,
and no evidence of him or his phone were then found there,
and he ended up passing through narrow pipes into a well some distance away but then couldn't pass beyond it into outgoing pipes and instead remained there, suspended in liquid, eventually hanging up on the pump and triggering the alarm which prompted discovery.

Are the odds of all of that really lower than that of an opportunistic predator noticing a barefoot young man apparently loitering near a foggy bridge at 3:00 in the morning? IMO, they're not.

Definitely food for thought.
So an opportunistic predator who happens upon him is an alternative to the online hookup scenario, and would not involve online communication.
The question is, if this occurred, how would it ever be found out and proven definitively?

 

[no greed]

It’s interesting (frustrating?) that with all the coverage Caleb’s disappearance has received, no one seems to have actually gone to the field, walked around, looked at the manhole cover. I mean, obviously I would expect (hope!) it’s been repaired now, but even just seeing the area and repaired cover, it would make the situation so much easier to imagine. It’s right off the road and doesn’t seem fenced in. I recognise it’s private property, but there are YouTubers sniffing around all sorts of places. Just sort of thinking aloud really, MOO.

I recently stopped by the area on Sunday the 25th of August. I posted some of my thoughts on Wednesday the 28th of August at about 9:30 AM. My visit left me probably more perplexed than I was before.

 

[SimplyCass]

So I do understand and accept that freak accidents happen, and some of them have no witnesses at all, yet can be fully solved, in time, with reverse engineering. What I really cannot fathom here are the odds of the following:

Caleb and his phone accidentally fell into that crop field manhole,
and he was injured in the fall to the extent that he could not cry out or dial out,
and he remained inert in that manhole until decomposition made it possible for his remains to drift (weeks?, months?),
and that field had been searched,
and he and his phone and that manhole were missed again and again until April 18th, when LE responded to the report of the open manhole,
and no evidence of him or his phone were then found there,
and he ended up passing through narrow pipes into a well some distance away but then couldn't pass beyond it into outgoing pipes and instead remained there, suspended in liquid, eventually hanging up on the pump and triggering the alarm which prompted discovery.

Are the odds of all of that really lower than that of an opportunistic predator noticing a barefoot young man apparently loitering near a foggy bridge at 3:00 in the morning? IMO, they're not.

(Snipped) We don't even have idea of how, where, or even when Caleb met his end. That's where I was thinking out loud, like, either scenario is really quite full of giant holes that you can drive a truck through.

An accident lines up with some things but not all. If there's one thing I'm more sure of, if there is a third party involved, a secret meet-up is at least part of the scenario. I really cannot imagine a scenario where a random predator attacks a victim and their phone is off. People are glued to their phones. Caleb had just ordered food on his phone and had just sent a Snap at night to someone. I can't imagine any scenario where his phone would be off - which is why I think falling accidentally into water makes more sense.

The recent Coffindaffer interview with Caleb’s Dad is on her own X and YouTube channels (and thus can’t be posted here).

Usually WS does allow interviews when it's the family of the missing/deceased person. PM a mod/admin, and they will post if it's allowed or not.