TX - Cash Gernon, 4, found dead in street w/multiple wounds, Dallas, 15 May 2021 #2 *ARREST*

[Gemmie]

I did hear Lt Wise say he entered at 04:53 or 04:57? Does anyone have that time?

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It was 4:53 taken from the transcript I typed up yesterday:

There’s one suspect, there’s only been one suspect. Facts as we know them are DB broke into this house at 4:53. He approached the crib, everyone else in the house was on the other side of the house and they were all asleep. As you well know, this family is kinda active at night so they stayed up all night and they were sleeping in. DB broke in, took Cash, and removed him from the house. At some point in time, I don’t know the exact time, he committed a heinous act against this little boy... <She paused. People off camera were heard telling her to take her time as it was clear what she was saying bothered her and she was getting herself together and keep from crying (It's MOO on the latter)> ...and then he went back for the second one. At 7:30, roughly.

Edited to add: I was surprised when I heard her say "At some point in time, I don’t know the exact time, he committed a heinous act against this little boy".

There is no wishy-washiness about that comment and it struck me as an odd thing for LE to say unless they knew something for sure. I'd have thought she'd word it as "we believe he committed", not "he committed". Anyway... JMO on that.

 

[katydid23]

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Or it was deluded payback while psychotic.
I know many think I’m crazy, but I still don’t believe without a reasonable doubt that he acted alone or that he even broke in for that matter.
Yes, I saw the 3 seconds of video of him picking up Cash and heading towards the door, but I haven’t seen him entering the house or walking out and about up the streets and alleys with him. Or his clothes. Or weapon.
I did hear Lt Wise say he entered at 04:53 or 04:57? Does anyone have that time?
I hope this goes to trial so it can all
come out.
There is so much that could have been done to prevent this tragedy.

Yes, all we have 'seen' so far is DB in the act of taking the child out of his bed and carrying him out of his room, heading out of the home...

For what purpose? I cannot think of any positive or beneficial reason he would be doing so.

But we do know that the child ended up dead in the street hours later.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Snipped for focus.

It was 4:53 taken from the transcript I typed up yesterday:

There’s one suspect, there’s only been one suspect. Facts as we know them are DB broke into this house at 4:53. He approached the crib, everyone else in the house was on the other side of the house and they were all asleep. As you well know, this family is kinda active at night so they stayed up all night and they were sleeping in. DB broke in, took Cash, and removed him from the house. At some point in time, I don’t know the exact time, he committed a heinous act against this little boy... <She paused. People off camera were heard telling her to take her time as it was clear what she was saying bothered her and she was getting herself together and keep from crying (It's MOO on the latter)> ...and then he went back for the second one. At 7:30, roughly.

Edited to add: I was surprised when I heard her say "At some point in time, I don’t know the exact time, he committed a heinous act against this little boy".

There is no wishy-washiness about that comment and it struck me as an odd thing for LE to say unless they knew something for sure. I'd have thought she'd word it as "we believe he committed", not "he committed". Anyway... JMO on that.

“As you well know, this family is kinda active at night so they stayed up all night and they were sleeping in.”

What? The entire community knows this family that intimately?

 

[Curiosa20]

That's the thing though, he wasn't just walking around and making noise. He was breaking into cars and being violent. I can't imagine it was easy. But yeah, I agree, maybe they felt bad for his mother and tried to just suck it up.

I have not seen any evidence or heard a complaint about DB breaking in to cars. I have seen a video of him testing a door handle and looking in to a car. I saw what appears to be him yrying to break a Ring camera.
I am real sure that if he had broken car windows and stolen stuff at least 1 person would have made a clear point of that. He was bothering and scaring people.
I think it behooves us, in the interest of justice, to not get carried away and extrapolate.

 

[al66pine]

Domestic violence is a no drop policy once filed. I don’t know about not pressing charges once police are aware of it. But I think bc not reporting a felony is a crime, if police are aware of DV, they’ll pursue it. Write it up and present to the DA.

@Midwestmom2019 bbm Re bbm, altho I've read something to this effect, I've not seen a TX statute mandating this. A link pls. Anyone?

 

[Gemmie]

“As you well know, this family is kinda active at night so they stayed up all night and they were sleeping in.”

What? The entire community knows this family that intimately?

Yes, another odd thing to say IMO. But said it she did!

Here's the rest of her statement that I had transcribed (not that it has anything to do with your post. I had it up so decided to post here):

The only thing, God’s grace, that saved Carter, and then he got spooked and left the house (That sentence doesn't make sense but that's what she said. Listened to it a few times to clarify). But because this woman had a camera in the boy’s room, I’m able to charge him. OK? There is no doubt who took him. And as soon as I get the lab report back there’ll be no doubt who killed him. There’s no 2nd suspect, we don’t know the motive for this, I wish I knew. But there’s no way we can explain such an evil act. As soon as I get those lab test results back we can update (and go?) further.

Me again... she again wasn't wishy-washy about this comment. It's pretty clear: "as soon as I get the lab report back there’ll be no doubt who killed him. There’s no 2nd suspect"

Really? Does she really know this for certain? As I stated above, I'd be more careful with my wording, instead saying "we will then have no doubt who killed him". I don't like stating things in a firm way unless I'm VERY sure of it. Otherwise, I'll purposely say things like "I believe", "I think", etc. So since she's very clearly saying things the way she does, it makes me wonder what she knows that we do not. And even if she does know things we don't, I still don't like the way she words things at this point in the case. Best to be vague and not pin something on someone before all the evidence is in, regardless if you believe in your heart they did it or not. Proof is needed first. Again... JMO.

 

[katydid23]

I have not seen any evidence or heard a complaint about DB breaking in to cars. I have seen a video of him testing a door handle and looking in to a car. I saw what appears to be him yrying to break a Ring camera.
I am real sure that if he had broken car windows and stolen stuff at least 1 person would have made a clear point of that. He was bothering and scaring people.
I think it behooves us, in the interest of justice, to not get carried away and extrapolate.

If we see him on video at night, testing a door handle, and peering into a car---what does that mean? Was that his car? NO...he had no reason to check the door and peek into the window. He was obviously looking at cars to break into.

Not everyone had ring cameras. If he tested one car door handle, I bet he tested many others. I have no doubt he was breaking into cars in the community for awhile. Just because he was not the one accused not does not mean he wasn't the culprit. Most car break-ins were not 'solved' because it happens in the middle of the night.

 

[SBops]

Yes, another odd thing to say IMO. But said it she did!

Here's the rest of her statement that I had transcribed (not that it has anything to do with your post. I had it up so decided to post here):

The only thing, God’s grace, that saved Carter, and then he got spooked and left the house (That sentence doesn't make sense but that's what she said. Listened to it a few times to clarify). But because this woman had a camera in the boy’s room, I’m able to charge him. OK? There is no doubt who took him. And as soon as I get the lab report back there’ll be no doubt who killed him. There’s no 2nd suspect, we don’t know the motive for this, I wish I knew. But there’s no way we can explain such an evil act. As soon as I get those lab test results back we can update (and go?) further.

Me again... she again wasn't wishy-washy about this comment. It's pretty clear: "as soon as I get the lab report back there’ll be no doubt who killed him. There’s no 2nd suspect"

Really? Does she really know this for certain? As I stated above, I'd be more careful with my wording, instead saying "we will then have no doubt who killed him". I don't like stating things in a firm way unless I'm VERY sure of it. Otherwise, I'll purposely say things like "I believe", "I think", etc. So since she's very clearly saying things the way she does, it makes me wonder what she knows that we do not. And even if she does know things we don't, I still don't like the way she words things at this point in the case. Best to be vague and not pin something on someone before all the evidence is in, regardless if you believe in your heart they did it or not. Proof is needed first. Again... JMO.

Very unprofessional IMO. It is almost written in stone that 'alleged' is used. Her statements may well be used to claim that he could not get a fair trial and that she has influenced a jury pool. MOO.

 

[SBops]

If we see him on video at night, testing a door handle, and peering into a car---what does that mean? Was that his car? NO...he had no reason to check the door and peek into the window. He was obviously looking at cars to break into.

Not everyone had ring cameras. If he tested one car door handle, I bet he tested many others. I have no doubt he was breaking into cars in the community for awhile. Just because he was not the one accused not does not mean he wasn't the culprit. Most car break-ins were not 'solved' because it happens in the middle of the night.

But, to be fair, that does not mean he is a murderer, IMO>

 

[katydid23]

But, to be fair, that does not mean he is a murderer, IMO>

The 3 second video means he is a kidnapper and an accomplice to murder, at the very least.

 

[SBops]

The 3 second video means he is a kidnapper and an accomplice to murder, at the very least.

I agree, but all this neighborhood stuff just seems to be unnecessary to me.

 

[katydid23]

I agree, but all this neighborhood stuff just seems to be unnecessary to me.

Unnecessary? You mean unnecessary to mention or discuss?

I think it is relevant.

 

[SBops]

Unnecessary? You mean unnecessary to mention or discuss?

I think it is relevant.

I cannot see the relevance to abduction and murder, although I believe that he did do it.

 

[katydid23]

I cannot see the relevance to abduction and murder, although I believe that he did do it.

I think it is relevant because it shows him being alone as he is cruising around at night, looking into cars, yards, etc...

 

[Gemmie]

Another thing I wanted to add that she said in the video (sorry, I never caught her name. She's the LE in the blue shirt and slacks in the vid answering Q's and relaying info)...

In response to a question I could not hear: "There's false information out there. Remember, there's one source that keeps talking, OK?"

Me again... While she never names the source of false information, I'm guessing that it's likely to be the Daily Mail. I could be wrong but that's JMO. I bring this up because we need to remember that not all we're reading from some "news" sources is necessarily correct. Some is, some isn't.

Here's the (WS approved) video starting at the point I reference above so you can listen for yourselves:

 

[helpfulcharlie]

I cannot see the relevance to abduction and murder, although I believe that he did do it.

I think it's relevant as prior examples of unrestrained, no-consequences, escalating anti-social behavior.

 

[Curiosa20]

Snipped for focus.

It was 4:53 taken from the transcript I typed up yesterday:

There’s one suspect, there’s only been one suspect. Facts as we know them are DB broke into this house at 4:53. He approached the crib, everyone else in the house was on the other side of the house and they were all asleep. As you well know, this family is kinda active at night so they stayed up all night and they were sleeping in. DB broke in, took Cash, and removed him from the house. At some point in time, I don’t know the exact time, he committed a heinous act against this little boy... <She paused. People off camera were heard telling her to take her time as it was clear what she was saying bothered her and she was getting herself together and keep from crying (It's MOO on the latter)> ...and then he went back for the second one. At 7:30, roughly.

Edited to add: I was surprised when I heard her say "At some point in time, I don’t know the exact time, he committed a heinous act against this little boy".

There is no wishy-washiness about that comment and it struck me as an odd thing for LE to say unless they knew something for sure. I'd have thought she'd word it as "we believe he committed", not "he committed". Anyway... JMO on that.

Thank you. and appreciated it. I read this and forgot. This week is a very busy time for me.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I understand LE isn’t going to release anything, but why didn’t Monica release other video from within the home that shows DB carrying Cash out of the house? Especially once everyone started speculating that her or her son were involved. It seems that would end a lot of the discussion on whether or not DB did anything beyond grabbing him from his crib.

I don’t know, something just keeps nagging me and doesn’t quite sit right. I hope we get answers soon.

 

[HaikuMommy]

I have not seen any evidence or heard a complaint about DB breaking in to cars. I have seen a video of him testing a door handle and looking in to a car. I saw what appears to be him yrying to break a Ring camera.
I am real sure that if he had broken car windows and stolen stuff at least 1 person would have made a clear point of that. He was bothering and scaring people.
I think it behooves us, in the interest of justice, to not get carried away and extrapolate.

Considering in April he was found by police sitting in a stolen car, I think we can assume he didn't just try that one car door handle (at night, with his hoodie up, with a face mask on).
18-year-old accused of killing Dallas 4-year-old had previous arrest in April

"Police got a call on April 27 about a suspicious person sitting in a car looking at houses in the Red Bird area. A records search indicted to police the vehicle had been stolen.

When Dallas police attempted to make contact with Brown, he took off out of the car on foot and ran away from officers. After a brief foot chase through a neighborhood, Brown was taken into custody."

 

[al66pine]

... why didn’t Monica release other video from within the home that shows DB carrying Cash out of the house? Especially once everyone started speculating that her or her son were involved. It seems that would end a lot of the discussion on whether or not DB did anything beyond grabbing him from his crib....

@iamnotagolem bbm sbm
In a situation like this, imo IDK if releasing vid showing DB carrying poor little Cash out of the house would muffle rumors/speculation about the involvement of others.
After all, DB could carry the boy from one side of the house to the other, across the street, or down the block and hand him off to a household member or some other creep/perp, who could harm him.

NOT saying anyone in the household was involved in harming Cash, just saying releasing another 5 min. or an hour of vid would not necessarily rule out fam/household involvement. my2ct.