GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #22 *Arrest*

[CookieM]

If it was said, I missed it, but what time did the other 2 cars leave the garage? Thats weird if they were security but didnt notice anything? Any clarification? Were they in security vehicles or their own vehicles? Also, Jmom must know about the unreleased video of the garage...if it shows CM getting in EA's car than Jmom wouldnt be so curious about the forensic results. Right? She would know that CM was for sure in his car so that makes me believe that the unreleased video doesnt show CM getting in his car. What does it show?

But if video shows her getting into his car why would LE have presented the warrant to discover if she were in his car? Probable cause for finding evidence of her in his vehicle was all the lying. If they had video of her getting into his car, the warrant would have simply said he said she was never in his vehicle but surveillance video shows her getting into it. That video was easy enough to get. LE had it very soon after her disappearance since they showed stills of it to him early on. I don't think (as we said before already) that the garage cameras actually show video of their parked cars or what happened beside them.

 

[Bootsctr]

Regarding the other two cars:

Police said Morris' bank accounts haven't been accessed and her cell phone is off. Their best leads are the drivers of three cars seen in the parking garage that same morning.

"You can't tell any of the cars apart, which is really frustrating because I feel like that could be a big lead of ours," McElroy said. "Please, if you have her, I need my daughter back. I need her back. I'm begging you."


http://crimefeed.com/2014/11/new-se....com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=CrimeFeed

The other two cars belong to mall security cops. These were the mall cops that walked around. Their vehicles were their own private vehicles. It could have been a Volkswagon or a truck or any miscellaneous vehicle. Did they get a free pass because they were mall security COPS and thus their vehicles given automatic clearance? We had a valet that worked at that very garage comment on the security situation in Henry's Parking Garage.

 

[CuriousinNY]

JMOM did say the security guards whose cars left the garage were questioned by the police. While no one can say they are ruled out except the police, they haven't been ignored either. I think it is very unlikely they were involved, IMO.

 

[JMOM]

They were looked at. Sorry if I was confusing. They were cleared.

So because they are "Security Guards" they should not be looked at as well??
Considering it was the "Security Guards" that had access to the original surveillance tape recordings
They know the layout of the places they "GUARD" at and can use it for their advantage. (very creepy to think about)
Here are 4 links that say otherwise. (about Guards can be the attackers too)
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/09/springdale_job_corps_sued_for.html
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/11/texas_woman_was_raped_at_bourb.html
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/07/odu-student-testifies-she-was-raped-security-guard
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...urity-guard-in-Powai/articleshow/29329769.cms

PPD has stated they are not ruling anyone out and neither will I.
No matter which link I post that statement from Officer Tilley has never changed,revised or been retracted.

No One is Cleared until conclusive evidence is obtained by LE and punishment phase is underway.

 

[JMOM]

Vehicles were identified, again a very old article. All has been sorted and LE does not believe either vehicles or it's occupants were involved. That is all I can say about that.

Regarding the other two cars:

Police said Morris' bank accounts haven't been accessed and her cell phone is off. Their best leads are the drivers of three cars seen in the parking garage that same morning.

"You can't tell any of the cars apart, which is really frustrating because I feel like that could be a big lead of ours," McElroy said. "Please, if you have her, I need my daughter back. I need her back. I'm begging you."


http://crimefeed.com/2014/11/new-se....com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=CrimeFeed

The other two cars belong to mall security cops. These were the mall cops that walked around. Their vehicles were their own private vehicles. It could have been a Volkswagon or a truck or any miscellaneous vehicle. Did they get a free pass because they were mall security COPS and thus their vehicles given automatic clearance? We had a valet that worked at that very garage comment on the security situation in Henry's Parking Garage.

 

[zippixx]

He very well could be, but is he really prepared to take the wrap for something he claims he didn't do? I wouldn't be. I would be singing to anyone who would listen. That is what doesn't make sense to me. If he truly didn't do a thing wrong and all these bad things that make him look suspect just happened, why the lies? Why the squeegee, the shop vac, the "bite" mark? I always go back to that. I try not to, because it is really disturbing to me. I think I have played every possible option out in my head. (I spend lots of time in the woods) I can't shake it. I just can't.

I also keep thinking about all the other scenarios & try to stay open-minded, but what you say here, JMOM, is what keeps bringing me back to reality... (or what I perceive to be reality!)

 

[zippixx]

Can you comment or answer a question on a closed thread? If not, I will go read what I missed yesterday but not sure how to answer something and make it post here. Help anyone?

I guess you could copy & paste the original question to this thread...

 

[zippixx]

This is going to shock you as much as it did me but I asked the specific forensic question yesterday, no they are not back yet. Why I have no clue, I don't really understand all of that stuff but they are not back.

Now THAT is interesting...

 

[Bootsctr]

Vehicles were identified, again a very old article. All has been sorted and LE does not believe either vehicles or it's occupants were involved. That is all I can say about that.

Thank you JMOM. Yes, I understand and it is an old article, but nothing was ever updated from that article and Jonni never updated in her interviews. Would it be possible to get Officer Tilley to say something about the other vehicles in print? Could Ms. Feagins ask him and do an follow-up? That would sure help put my mind at ease about the other vehicles.

 

[Ociboys]

So because they are "Security Guards" they should not be looked at as well??
Considering it was the "Security Guards" that had access to the original surveillance tape recordings
They know the layout of the places they "GUARD" at and can use it for their advantage. (very creepy to think about)
Here are 4 links that say otherwise. (about Guards can be the attackers too)
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/09/springdale_job_corps_sued_for.html
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/11/texas_woman_was_raped_at_bourb.html
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/07/odu-student-testifies-she-was-raped-security-guard
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...urity-guard-in-Powai/articleshow/29329769.cms

PPD has stated they are not ruling anyone out and neither will I.
No matter which link I post that statement from Officer Tilley has never changed,revised or been retracted.

No One is Cleared until conclusive evidence is obtained by LE and punishment phase is underway.

YES txyorkie!…This was the first thing that came to mind with me. Remember Michelle O'Keefe? It took 9 yrs and three trials to get justice for her murder. Commuter parking lot murder, he was the security guard on duty.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec/19/local/la-me-student-slain19-2009dec19

 

[Bootsctr]

So because they are "Security Guards" they should not be looked at as well??
Considering it was the "Security Guards" that had access to the original surveillance tape recordings
They know the layout of the places they "GUARD" at and can use it for their advantage. (very creepy to think about)
Here are 4 links that say otherwise. (about Guards can be the attackers too)
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/09/springdale_job_corps_sued_for.html
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/11/texas_woman_was_raped_at_bourb.html
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/07/odu-student-testifies-she-was-raped-security-guard
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...urity-guard-in-Powai/articleshow/29329769.cms

PPD has stated they are not ruling anyone out and neither will I.
No matter which link I post that statement from Officer Tilley has never changed,revised or been retracted.

No One is Cleared until conclusive evidence is obtained by LE and punishment phase is underway.

:goodpost: :freakedout: :jawdrop: I had no clue about so many guards being involved in attacks against women. :hills: I know there are a lot of creeps who like to play cop too. Have the lights, buy used cop cars at auctions, pull women over.... :copcar: :gasp:

 

[MIKAYOYO]

But if video shows her getting into his car why would LE have presented the warrant to discover if she were in his car? Probable cause for finding evidence of her in his vehicle was all the lying. If they had video of her getting into his car, the warrant would have simply said he said she was never in his vehicle but surveillance video shows her getting into it. That video was easy enough to get. LE had it very soon after her disappearance since they showed stills of it to him early on. I don't think (as we said before already) that the garage cameras actually show video of their parked cars or what happened beside them.

This is one thing tha I cannot seem tto let go. By all accounts Christina's car is captured on video pulling in and parking, as well as definitely never moved. EA's car was very close to hers. So WHY doesn't LE know what happened? If her car is on video and his was tthat close, I'm just baffled that we don't know more. I know PPD is holding cards close to vest but it's the one thing that keeps me circling the mulberry bush. Maybe his car was nott as close as believed, but then that would open up how he would not have necessarily been able to see her getting to her car.

 

[JnRyan]

Can you comment or answer a question on a closed thread? If not, I will go read what I missed yesterday but not sure how to answer something and make it post here. Help anyone?

One thought I had yesterday - damage to EA's car. Have the police - and they may have to go other city departments - checked their reports? That is, someone reports a mailbox knocked down (EA may have hit it) or business owner reported some damage to sign? Might have to ask the general public to think back on that night in case they simply fixed it and didn't report it.

 

[Bootsctr]

YES txyorkie!…This was the first thing that came to mind with me. Remember Michelle O'Keefe? It took 9 yrs and three trials to get justice for her murder. Commuter parking lot murder, he was the security guard on duty.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec/19/local/la-me-student-slain19-2009dec19

Yikes! He claimed to have found her!!! :scared: :gaah: These people are crazy murderers.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

the final results of the toxicology report may take four to six weeks or longer.
Many factors play into the length of time needed to gather forensic toxicology test results, including:

the need for confirmatory testing
the complexity of and the number of specific tests required
case workload and staffing at the testing laboratory: I would not think it would take this long

It's my understanding the more detailed the forensic tests the longer it takes to get the results back.

 

[Jazz]

Watch EA in this video.
Is he limping? His walk is off somehow.
Now is this the way he always walks? If it is it appears as a limp.
He dips down to the left.
Is this what the sprint guy saw?

I think the reason the Witnesses are so silent is because they KNOW something and have told
LE ...It could be information they heard that evening while she was on the phone and discussions they had with her.

I am still a firm believer that someone else was in that garage!

If LE had evidence Christina was in that car IMO EA would have been arrested.

All JMO

Sorry, I don't see a limp at all.....

 

[Batman's Mommy]

So because they are "Security Guards" they should not be looked at as well??
Considering it was the "Security Guards" that had access to the original surveillance tape recordings
They know the layout of the places they "GUARD" at and can use it for their advantage. (very creepy to think about)
Here are 4 links that say otherwise. (about Guards can be the attackers too)
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/09/springdale_job_corps_sued_for.html
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/11/texas_woman_was_raped_at_bourb.html
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/07/odu-student-testifies-she-was-raped-security-guard
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...urity-guard-in-Powai/articleshow/29329769.cms

PPD has stated they are not ruling anyone out and neither will I.
No matter which link I post that statement from Officer Tilley has never changed,revised or been retracted.

No One is Cleared until conclusive evidence is obtained by LE and punishment phase is underway.

:goodpost: :freakedout: :jawdrop: I had no clue about so many guards being involved in attacks against women. :hills: I know there are a lot of creeps who like to play cop too. Have the lights, buy used cop cars at auctions, pull women over.... :copcar: :gasp:

This is a great point!! Security guard IS NOT EQUAL to a law enforcement officer. Security companies are supposed to run extensive background checks on their employees, which, IMO, will definitely catch someone who has convictions, but what about a crime of opportunity?

Once upon a time, and a long time ago, I worked retail management for a large clothing corporation. This company did extensive training sessions for their managers. One of the training sessions was on "risk management." In retail, "risk management" is basically shoplifting, but IMO, some of the concepts can be applied to just criminal behavior. One of the things I learned that I will never forget was this(and it is in regards to shoplifting, but I am going to try to make it a little more generalized).

In the world of shoplifters/criminals:
*20% of the population will never (shoplift)/commit crimes.
*20% of the population will always (shoplift)/commit crimes.
*60% of the population are "fence sitters" meaning that if the opportunity exists, this group is more than likely to (shoplift)/commit crimes.

Some may disagree with me, and that is fine, but this is what I was taught in regards to "risk management," and in my own life, I have seen how this can be applied to various other forms of criminal activity.

JMO :moo:

 

[SaintGirl]

He very well could be, but is he really prepared to take the wrap for something he claims he didn't do? I wouldn't be. I would be singing to anyone who would listen. That is what doesn't make sense to me. If he truly didn't do a thing wrong and all these bad things that make him look suspect just happened, why the lies? Why the squeegee, the shop vac, the "bite" mark? I always go back to that. I try not to, because it is really disturbing to me. I think I have played every possible option out in my head. (I spend lots of time in the woods) I can't shake it. I just can't.

Great point, JMOM. I think a lot of us have come to this same conclusion.

Only warrant we know of was executed on EA's car.
Only hint we've heard of grand jury action has been on uncut footage of EA's interviews.
Only person talked about in MSM as a possible suspect has been EA.
Only person LE has stated hasn't been honest is EA.
Everything JMOM listed above.

All too hard to ignore what we know to be fact. MOO

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Thank you JMOM, that's very useful information. I remember that CD told us that the car were security and that posters queried this at that time. Them belonging to security personnel makes absolute perfect sense. I didn't think those vehicles were involved but I'm so pleased that I can now ignore them.

One question it does raise with me is why the garage security didn't pick up that Christina's car hadn't moved for 4 days, I believe the garage is not a large one, I would have expected it to have stuck out each night as being the only there, is it right that there was is no overnight parking in that garage?

holiday weekend may of contributed to going un noticed or not being towed (busy/other things going on that are higher priority than car in parking lot all weekend?)

 

[Batman's Mommy]

Sorry, I don't see a limp at all.....

IMO, I would call it some kind of "strut"(?)....(not meaning that as in an intentional way of walking, but who knows...)... I had noticed it, too, in the video of EA in his home walking into an office area.

Maybe it was more pronounced on that day? JMO