TX- Dad drugged at a Montrose bar after drinking his wife’s drink roofied by a ‘creepy’ guy, Houston, July '24

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vlbay said:
why does it matter that he's a husband and a father? weird.
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Because there is this idea that we don't see victims as people unless we relate them to others.

It's especially blatant in coverage of violent crimes against women and girls. How often do we see a woman described as 'mother, sister, daughter, wife' and that is held up as a reason for why she was not deserving of what happened?

It should be enough that someone was a living, feeling being. Not that they had a large assortment of family and friends. There are victims who have absolutely no one who loves or cares for them. They are just as much victims as those with dozens of social connections.

MOO
 
There are rumors online that the drug test was positive for buprenorphine. Buprenorphine does not show up on regular or expanded drug tests, per drugs.com:
"Although buprenorphine is similar to opioids, it is sufficiently distinct in structure to morphine that it essentially shows no reactivity in commonly marketed morphine-specific immunoassays.

Detection of buprenorphine requires entirely separate immunoassays that are specific for this compounds, or another sort of testing, such as liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry, which is expensive."
 
azure said:
There are rumors online that the drug test was positive for buprenorphine. Buprenorphine does not show up on regular or expanded drug tests, per drugs.com:
"Although buprenorphine is similar to opioids, it is sufficiently distinct in structure to morphine that it essentially shows no reactivity in commonly marketed morphine-specific immunoassays.

Detection of buprenorphine requires entirely separate immunoassays that are specific for this compounds, or another sort of testing, such as liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry, which is expensive."
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If they got a 12 or 14 panel test from Walgreens, it will show up.
 
GRT said:
Wow! The comments on the article linked in the OP are downright harsh!

Small town, I'm guessing.
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I’m thinking it’s hard to take this news story seriously as presented in this piece, so maybe that’s why the joke-y comments there.

It feels like the reporter was treating what you’d think is a serious issue and story in a flippant way.

For example:
in the video, why does the reporter show a re-creation of when the unknown man sat next to Melissa and said what he said to her—by using himself to play both Melissa and the unknown man? Just weird.

JMO

This is the link from the first post in this thread that I am referring to:
www.click2houston.com

‘I don’t remember anything’: Dad drugged at Montrose bar after drinking his wife’s drink roofied by a ‘creepy’ guy

A father and husband was drugged while out drinking with his wife at a Montrose bar.
www.click2houston.com www.click2houston.com
 
slowpoke said:
I’m thinking it’s hard to take this news story seriously as presented in this piece, so maybe that’s why the joke-y comments there.

It feels like the reporter was treating what you’d think is a serious issue and story in a flippant way.

For example:
in the video, why does the reporter show a re-creation of when the unknown man sat next to Melissa and said what he said to her—by using himself to play both Melissa and the unknown man? Just weird.

JMO

This is the link from the first post in this thread that I am referring to:
www.click2houston.com

‘I don’t remember anything’: Dad drugged at Montrose bar after drinking his wife’s drink roofied by a ‘creepy’ guy

A father and husband was drugged while out drinking with his wife at a Montrose bar.
www.click2houston.com www.click2houston.com
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yeah that was bizarre and disrespectful IMO
 
azure said:
So he took a home drug test instead of going to a hospital: "The next day he took an over-the-counter drug test, which lit up like a Christmas tree for drugs he’s never taken before."

Lit up like a Christmas tree for drugS he's never taken before? Very odd. So not only was the guy able to slip an drug into the drink of a woman who was with a guy in seconds in front of her, but he slipped multiple drugs in?

Also, re the police treating this as legitimate: "The family filed a report with the Houston Police Department. In the meantime, they’ve been working with the owner of Rudyard’s. He wasn’t able to speak on camera, but he wants to help in every way possible."

So no word on how LE is treating this, just that a report was filed. I assume the "they" above working with the owner Rudyard's is the family because what would LE be working on "in the meantime"?

Story has holes IMO. I don't want to argue with anyone but I think someone needed a cover story for their drug use in the bathroom at the bar.
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I can’t say I 100% question their story, but let us remember that it was a “home” home drug test kit. Even office one normally doesn’t test for GHB, Rohypnol or Ketamine. The whole story may have a number of diffferent explanations depending on what the husband tested positive for. There may even be a third version, something in between, but I can’t discuss it until I know what the home drug test has shown.

ETA. I think we could discuss a hypothetical situation. Most grownup men have tried substances but they usually know that a small amount of “something that shows on home drug tests* and a glass of whiskey are OK for them.

But, if at the same time, his wife’s drink indeed had been spiked, then the third unknown ingredient sends him into a tailspin. Maybe the hospital itself is waiting for the result of a blood test so they can’t really tell what has happened.

Or maybe, testing is slightly useless as too many substances don’t behave well if taken with alcohol and act like roofies but one can’t test for all of them.

Anyhow, it is a good learning story either way. The couple looks young, and they do resemble high school sweethearts, btw. Wish them not to get into such situations, ever.
 
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azure said:
There are rumors online that the drug test was positive for buprenorphine. Buprenorphine does not show up on regular or expanded drug tests, per drugs.com:
"Although buprenorphine is similar to opioids, it is sufficiently distinct in structure to morphine that it essentially shows no reactivity in commonly marketed morphine-specific immunoassays.

Detection of buprenorphine requires entirely separate immunoassays that are specific for this compounds, or another sort of testing, such as liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry, which is expensive."
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One can absolutely order buprenorphine tests online, either separately or as a u/a panel with other common drugs. As part of the panel they are more expensive but it is a regular urine test. It is sensitive enough. A confirmation sample can be sent to a lab, though, but not necessarily. I would be surprised that buprenorphine can’t be taken with alcohol. It’s recommended not to drink when on it, but show me a bar that serves strong drinks. It is another thing that in Suboxone, a burprenorphine/Naloxone combo, Naloxone decreases the urge to drink alcohol.

I have another question, though, is buprenorphine tasteless and odorless? Google results mostly comment on Suboxone, but say it is a mixture of two bitter tasting substances, so I assume buprenorphine alone is bitter and not a good candidate for a roofie.

This doesn’t negate the possibility that the husband is on Suboxone (and it is good that he takes it regularly as it saves lives) and there was a roofie in the drink and they didn’t work well together.
 
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Charlot123 said:
One can absolutely order buprenorphine tests online, either separately or as a u/a panel with other common drugs. As part of the panel they are more expensive but it is a regular urine test. It is sensitive enough. A confirmation sample can be sent to a lab, though, but not necessarily. I would be surprised that buprenorphine can’t be taken with alcohol. It’s recommended not to drink when on it, but show me a bar that serves strong drinks. It is another thing that in Suboxone, a burprenorphine/Naloxone combo, Naloxone decreases the urge to drink alcohol.

I have another question, though, is buprenorphine tasteless and odorless? Google results mostly comment on Suboxone, but say it is a mixture of two bitter tasting substances, so I assume buprenorphine alone is bitter and not a good candidate for a roofie.

This doesn’t negate the possibility that the husband is on Suboxone (and it is good that he takes it regularly as it saves lives) and there was a roofie in the drink and they didn’t work well together.
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Depends on pill or strip. The pill is mildly bitter. The strip tastes like orange.
 
azure said:
Respectfully, there are TikTok videos for an innumerable number of things that are untrue. I remain skeptical of this story, and it's not because I don't believe women. Quite the opposite.
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It can happen so quickly. Some of the drugs are now clear, and so can be quickly dropped into a drink, in a split second. If she was texting someone, he could have easily dropped it into her drink without her noticing.

My friend is a bar manager and they have caught people, and when they looked at the videos later they never would have seen them do it. But they were only caught because women were passing out before they'd make it out the door---and he'd seen the walk in sober, 20 minutes earlier.
 
kuromiiiilove said:
Depends on pill or strip. The pill is mildly bitter. The strip tastes like orange.
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An orange strip cannot be added into a drink. In general, I can imagine a list of medications that have a roofie-like effect if added into a drink (or if used with suboxone, but not unknowingly) but they are neither tasteless nor white or odorless. So it is probably safe to assume that buprenorphine was the prescribed drug, and more conventional roofies were added into the drink. Anyhow, it is scary as it could have had very serious effect on the person.
 
LadyL said:
well that bar needs better surveillance - can barely see the creep
I've been roofied (twice) - it's the worst experience and I wasn't even victimized beyond ingesting it but it really does throw you for a loop
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So sorry you had this experience. I cannot begin to even imagine what that must have been like for you.

I didn’t watch the video, but if the lighting/surveillance is such that we can barely see “the creep,” I would imagine it may also have made it exceedingly difficult to see/easier not to notice when something was put into the drink. MOO

It is so scary to me the way we see this happening again and again to even the most vigilant people.

It is to the point now that I will not even set my drink down at a “Chuck E. Cheese” type pizza parlor. I physically carry it around the arcade with me, following my children around, and I don’t allow the children to pour their drinks until the food is ready, and we sit down to eat.

A younger girl (just past college age) who worked for us in one of our retail businesses was once roofied.

She didn’t realize until she “woke up” in an Uber with the strange man she recognized from the restaurant/bar she had been at that evening which was, obviously, headed to an unknown final destination.

In a quick panic, she opened the door to the backseat & jumped out of the vehicle.

She needed cosmetic surgery to correct the scarring left behind (especially after the road rash damage to her beautiful face).

All of the above is MOO/my experience.
 
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It happens everywhere, noting some, fwiw.
May 15, 2024
A man is speaking out after he says he was drugged while bar-hopping with friends on West Sixth Street in Downtown Austin.
Aug 17, 2022
www.narcity.com

A Man From Tennessee Said He Was 'Roofied' At A Dallas Airport Bar & People Are So Concerned

His wife made a video about the traumatic story.
www.narcity.com www.narcity.com
'A man from Clarksville, Tennessee, Brian Carr, confirmed with Narcity that he was traveling through Dallas Love Field Airport on August 11 following a business trip when he was roofied at a bar there.'
www.dallasnews.com

Dallas bar Harlowe MXM closes two weeks after two women said they were drugged

Two women who went to Harlowe MXM in Deep Ellum for a girls night out said they believe they were drugged by the bartender.
www.dallasnews.com
Dec 22, 2023
 
dotr said:
It happens everywhere, noting some, fwiw.
May 15, 2024
A man is speaking out after he says he was drugged while bar-hopping with friends on West Sixth Street in Downtown Austin.
Aug 17, 2022
www.narcity.com

A Man From Tennessee Said He Was 'Roofied' At A Dallas Airport Bar & People Are So Concerned

His wife made a video about the traumatic story.
www.narcity.com www.narcity.com
'A man from Clarksville, Tennessee, Brian Carr, confirmed with Narcity that he was traveling through Dallas Love Field Airport on August 11 following a business trip when he was roofied at a bar there.'
www.dallasnews.com

Dallas bar Harlowe MXM closes two weeks after two women said they were drugged

Two women who went to Harlowe MXM in Deep Ellum for a girls night out said they believe they were drugged by the bartender.
www.dallasnews.com
Dec 22, 2023
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ALL THE YES. There are so many.

Here is another example from Scottsdale, AZ, involving 3 strip clubs.

Lawsuit: 3 Arizona strip clubs drugged customers, charged credit cards for $1 million

Bones Cabaret, Skin Cabaret and Dream Palace. A lawsuit claims all three Scottsdale area strip clubs used an elaborate scheme to charge customers’ credit cards for excessively high amounts without authorization. Here's what we've learned about the allegations.
www.fox10phoenix.com www.fox10phoenix.com
 
bombardier said:
i know its a serious situation but im cracking up at "well i didnt want to waste $8" with how expensive everything is now id probably have drunk it too
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Several years ago I was unloading the dishwasher and came across a glass I didn’t recognize. When I asked about it, my dad said he and his bowling team friends went to the bar in the bowling alley after they were done playing. My dad got a soda (no alcohol) and took the glass because he felt the price was so ridiculously. Not the right thing to do, but hysterically funny because my dad was so straight-laced I would NEVER have expected this of him.
 
azure said:
So he took a home drug test instead of going to a hospital: "The next day he took an over-the-counter drug test, which lit up like a Christmas tree for drugs he’s never taken before."

Lit up like a Christmas tree for drugS he's never taken before? Very odd. So not only was the guy able to slip an drug into the drink of a woman who was with a guy in seconds in front of her, but he slipped multiple drugs in?

Also, re the police treating this as legitimate: "The family filed a report with the Houston Police Department. In the meantime, they’ve been working with the owner of Rudyard’s. He wasn’t able to speak on camera, but he wants to help in every way possible."

So no word on how LE is treating this, just that a report was filed. I assume the "they" above working with the owner Rudyard's is the family because what would LE be working on "in the meantime"?

Story has holes IMO. I don't want to argue with anyone but I think someone needed a cover story for their drug use in the bathroom at the bar.
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OMG Are you serious? You can't be. You're obviously just trolling. Right?

First, you find it suspicious that he chose to take an at-home drug test instead of going to the hospital?? I'm guessing the at-home test cost him $25 or less, and he was able to buy it at any drugstore OTC and go back home, not having to suffer the wait in an ER, as opposed to if he'd gone to a hospital, which would cost hundreds if not thousands, seriously, and make him sit in the ER with many other patients for who knows how long, always a horrible experience.

And the creepy guy at the bar wouldn't have had to slip multiple drugs into her drink, as in several separate pills or powders or whatever, in order for the test to show positive for more than one drug. Most drugs obtained on the street are not pure, and you never know what different chemicals they may actually include.

And I don't even know what you're trying to say with this statement you made : I assume the "they" above working with the owner Rudyard's is the family because what would LE be working on "in the meantime"?

So not sure what your suspicions are on that.

But then to end your post by accusing the victim of making up the whole story to cover up having been doing illicit drugs in the bar bathroom?? That especially is why I wouldn't take your post seriously, because that's just too much, imo. smh
 
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