TX - Five dead, including 8 yr old, in Cleveland home, suspect armed with AR-15 style rifle, active investigation, 28 Apr 2023

[mickey2942]

You do have to remember that the victims were Honduran and probably did not trust the police (among other things).

Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to victim blame. I just would never even think about chatting with a neighbor to stop shooting their AK.

 

[Stunned]

You do have to remember that the victims were Honduran and probably did not trust the police (among other things).

I believe they had called LE several times before already. And yet, here we are. IMO

 

[jjenny]

I believe they had called LE several times before already. And yet, here we are. IMO

Yes, that's what was reported. They called police a bunch of times before the shooting.

 

[acutename]

I was a bit disturbed reading in the article above that LEO was not on the scene after 20 minutes. Seriously? A guy is shooting an AR-15 at 11:30 at night...I wish there was a more definitive time line. Or reason why LEO took that length of time.

Asked about response time, Capers said officers got there as fast as they could and that he had only three covering 700 square miles (1,800 square kilometers).

Man who lost wife, son in Texas mass shooting recounts killing

A man whose wife and 9-year-old son were killed with three other people north of Houston says the attack began after he asked a neighbor to shoot his gun further away from his home.

www.pbs.org

(I do not know the actual distances, road conditions or what else was happening that night.)

 

[Marysmith]

Yes, that's what was reported. They called police a bunch of times before the shooting.

And he clearly didn’t have a permit…

 

[MrsWatson]

Repeated 911 calls, a wait for deputies: Texas survivors question why help didn’t arrive sooner

It took half an hour for San Jacinto County deputies to arrive, a survivor said. By that time, five people were mortally wounded, and the gunman was gone.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Betty P]

Repeated 911 calls, a wait for deputies: Texas survivors question why help didn’t arrive sooner

It took half an hour for San Jacinto County deputies to arrive, a survivor said. By that time, five people were mortally wounded, and the gunman was gone.

www.nbcnews.com

That's terrible. It took over 30 minutes for them to arrive. The husband began calling before the killer came to his house. The 911 dispatcher kept telling him the police were "already there" and hanging up. They weren't there. Someone needs to answer for this. It sounds like this tragedy could have been prevented. JMO

 

[Stunned]

That's terrible. It took over 30 minutes for them to arrive. The husband began calling before the killer came to his house. The 911 dispatcher kept telling him the police were "already there" and hanging up. They weren't there. Someone needs to answer for this. It sounds like this tragedy could have been prevented. JMO

I have a bad feeling about LEs delay. IMO

 

[PrairieWind]

I have a bad feeling about LEs delay. IMO

The 911 call recordings and time stamps will tell the tale.

I grew up in a very rural county and it would not at all been unusual for it to take 30-45 minutes for a deputy to get to many places.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

And he clearly didn’t have a permit…

You don't need a permit in Texas. He unlawfully had a firearm but to the permit issue - no permit, no training, no proficiency test, nothing is required in Texas.

 

[Laughing]

And he clearly didn’t have a permit…

apparently he didn't have a green card, either:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/us/cleveland-texas-neighbor-shooting-monday/index.html

 

[Marysmith]

You don't need a permit in Texas. He unlawfully had a firearm but to the permit issue - no permit, no training, no proficiency test, nothing is required in Texas.

Oh ok I misunderstood.
Thank you.

 

[weepingangel]

Texas manhunt ends after suspect accused of killing 5 neighbors found hiding in laundry pile

Francisco Oropesa has been on the run since he allegedly killed five people in Cleveland, Texas, on Friday. He was found Tuesday hiding under laundry in a closet, officials said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[mickey2942]

Texas manhunt ends after suspect accused of killing 5 neighbors found hiding in laundry pile

Francisco Oropesa has been on the run since he allegedly killed five people in Cleveland, Texas, on Friday. He was found Tuesday hiding under laundry in a closet, officials said.

www.nbcnews.com

Deported four times. Here illegally. Absolutely, having a border that is not secure is a public safety issue.

 

[Puzzles8]

I don't know why he would be hiding in a forest when Mexico is only five hours away. There are looking in nearby areas and he is probably in Mexico already.

To get as far as Mexico, he needs some type of transportation. Either someone willingly drove him there or by force, he found his own transportation.

JMO

 

[Tbone144]

Trying to find msm report. Sheriff Woody indicates he’s been arrested.

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Texas massacre suspect in custody after dayslong manhunt, sources say

The man accused of fatally shooting five neighbors, including a mother and her 9-year-old son, in a Texas home has been taken into custody after a dayslong manhunt, two law enforcement sources told CNN.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Puzzles8]

Cut and Shoot TX is just over 17 miles west of Cleveland TX.

I wonder how he got that far. Glad he's been secured by LE.

Right now getting deported again is the least of his worries.

JMO

 

[Quim The Extraordinaire]

Hopefully this NYT link stating he’s been arrested will work:

Man Accused of Killing 5 in Texas Is Arrested

The man, Francisco Oropesa, was located just a few miles from the site of the shooting.

www.nytimes.com

 

[airportwoman]

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I am very happy to hear he was taken alive.

 

[JurassicParker]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02LFbg8RCHSAA5HU5WzNoPN6A3dMUM2Dxmi4191cnk5aZQgEnCrSFNCMWiHw5EEr6al&id=100069050355518&mibextid=qC1gEa

Found and arrested.