TX TX - Heidi Broussard, 33, & Margot Carey, 2 weeks, Austin, 12 Dec 2019 #3

[Artis]

I wonder if LE had an HRD dog do a pass around Heidi's car to see if it would alert?

That would be on my list of doing everything in their power in this case.

JMO

Agreed! Dogs should have combed every inch of that complex.

 

[ReadyorNot]

What are you talking about? I’ve watched his videos. “I love you. Please come home. I miss you.” What personal pronouns are you looking for?

How about referring to a two week old baby as a beautiful woman? Or as a new sister rather than his child?

 

[gitana1]

Lack of concern?! Every interview I have seen he is crying and distraught. He is doing interviews. Allowed police and tv crews into his home. He seems nothing but concerned. Well, this would certainly be one of those things where one perceives things differently....

Lack of concern meaning no attempts that he has stated to find her between his call at 1:40 p.m. and 6:00 when he went to pick up his son. And no calls to police for almost six hours after coming home and finding what he did.

 

[RANCH]

What are you saying? They're doing a crappy job?

If they didn't use an HRD dog then they missed an opportunity to help the investigation. JMO

 

[mrsu]

This is why I can’t believe he is involved. I DO NOT believe he would leave his little boy sitting at that school for 4 hours. The little boy left his mind as he was genuinely searching for her. And when that call came in, he contacted LE. Please start sleuthing other possibilities. That is why we are here.

sorry to be harsh but the sad reality is people do harsher things to their kids every single day.

 

[katydid23]

RSBM

Before this gets too much attention....


BBM - he states in that video that he called her friends, it's at about 1:50 of the video. He says he called his Dad, he said not to worry about it right now, then he says he called her friends and they hadn't heard from her. He then says he called the cops and they came over around 7:30.

The 7:30 thing is also not "news" today, it was in that video as well. The reporter asking questions even asks again and he says he called around 7:15-7:30.

Boyfriend of missing Austin woman, baby speaks out

Hey Missy...*waves...

Here's the thing that makes me suspicious...his wife's car was still there...she was supposed to pick up their 6 yr old.

So when he gets a call from the school at 6, saying she never showed up, doesn't that seem like a very red flag to him? He hasn't spoken to her since 8 am.

Her phone is off, she has a 2 week old baby with her and doesn't have the diaper bag. And she hasn't answered the phone or called him to say she wasn't picking up their son at school?

Wouldn't your husband be concerned at that point?

So given the context above, not calling for help until 7:30 seems very strange. How many red flags does he need before taking serious steps to locate his wife and newborn child?

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

Didn’t SC say in one of his interviews that the other kids don’t know that they are missing and they are currently staying with other family members while this is going on?

Yes he did say that they didn’t know what was going on. Not an exact quote but something about their minds being too little, he can barely handle it so how could they and that they were staying with family.

but it’s been a lot of days now. They must wonder where mom and baby sister are. He must have had to have told them something by now. Moo

 

[missy1974]

- I think he wanted to make it look like she ran off with the baby.

- It’s quite possible they don’t have video and only assume she made it back there because the car was there and she was last driving it

- Maybe there was no argument? Doesn’t take much to hit someone and stun them, then startle or whatever.

If he wanted to make it look like she left, why leave her purse there? why leave the diaper bag? Why would he say that she wouldn't leave like this? Why say that she wouldn't leave her son?

 

[whitelilac]

There's no elevator in that complex right? Are units' front doors individually accessible from outside or from a communal hall? Are there any garbage chutes or do tenants take the garbage out down the stairs?

 

[gitana1]

I really want to know if this friend has come forward to LEO.

They didn't have to. Investigators have talked to everyone already.

 

[gitana1]

Sure it could be he is nervous, etc., but any way you look at it, his giggles are very inappropriate for the situation. It makes people confused and uncomfortable.

He said he wants to appear natural and he wanted to keep going with the interview because he wanted to "get the word out there". He might have been sincere because he kept trying to do the interview. Not much info he gave was clear on timeline, some parts changed at times, and his answers started to seem evasive to me.

However, I'm not sure the giggling points to his guilt. If he did something ugly to harm them, it seems his face would reveal it and he would not be able to laugh. Doing something to harm that little baby?...I don't know, sometimes he does cry with wet tears, but that could be his sincere fear for their safety. Just trying to read what we're seeing, and not quite understanding his behavior.

I initially noticed and got nervous about his soothing rocking back and forth sway like CW, and his putting his hands up near his eyes and forehead often, and looking down a lot, closing his eyes and smiling as tho' remembering endearing moments. There's lots of body language and non verbal (maybe) tells, but I'm just one of the people he got the word out to and I'm not sure what the word is saying.

ALL JMO

Chris Watts laughed. And he did something ugly.

 

[Trudie]

I wonder if they have assigned spots there like we do. We have one numbered assigned spot under a car port, not enclosed and we have a garage which has a spot for another car in front of the garage as well. So we could have three cars, but we don't have three. Our garage is directly under our living room. I do not see Garages there. I am not sure if they have designated resident spots or just random parking spots. Anyone know? If they had garages, that would be a whole other area to consider.

the reviews I read mention parking is a big hassle and hard to find. I think Yelp is where I read reviews.

 

[Artis]

I'm not hung up on the $25 conversation. It could have been as simple as she called him because she was excited (he said) that she had found three books to cross off their list. "Hi Honey, I got three books today at the book fair that Child 1 and Child 2 will love for Christmas! Yikes, but they cost $25." To which he replies "Hey, it's okay". I don't see it as a problem. I know it can be for some people, but I don't think he'd bring it up if it was the catalyst for a heat-of-the-moment fight.

As for those unaccounted-for (to us, you have to know LE knows exactly where he was and what he was doing every minute of that day at after) afternoon hours, jeez he could have been napping like others have said or out screwing around or otherwise occupied. There truly are some men/dads (even women/mothers) who are so self-involved they just really don't pay attention unless it's directly impacting them. Yes, even when they have a newborn. "I'm hungry. Where's dinner? What...no one's here... looks at watch...omg it's later than I thought". That's if he was home. He could have come home at 2ish and gone back out.

Seven years engagement? Nope, going steady maybe, but seven years is not an engagement. Yes, I judge everyone who claims engagements and fiancees over a several year timespan. Fish or cut bait people.

I'm not watching those videos again, does anybody recall him telling that he loves her and needs her home? I'm not doubting he loves her, just can't remember if he said the words. I know people are different and not demonstrative that way, but he is clearly emotional about her being missing, I just don't recall hearing the words "I love you". I probably have selective hearing. DH and I are Schmoopies in that we are always telling each other how much we love each other. I'm sure some people roll their eyes at us, but hey, we've been together a long time and we've earned that right to hold hands in public and say I love you randomly during the day.

It's curious to see comments wondering is LE has done this or that or suggesting they should do XYZ...seriously, now. Do people really think they don't know what they're doing? No wonder they get annoyed with websleuthers, lol!

If he never tried to contact her again after that call at 1:40 or 2 where he said her phone was dead, then yes, I do think it's odd having a newborn, and maybe even selfish, but not suspicious necessarily.

Yes, he mentioned love several times, needed them, wanted them home, etc.

 

[Beth11311]

My cousin overdosed in Austin, Texas. She was dead for days before a police officer contacted me and it was only because I was the last person to speak to her when she was alive. She was a recovering addict with a felony conviction and none of us asked how she got her money and managed her affairs. In retrospect I should have. All I do know is the investigating police detective assumed she was committing crimes and possibly prostituting. It was my understanding that heroin is a major issue there, much like it is everywhere now. Addicts will do anything and harm anyone for an opiate. What are your thoughts on this as a local? Are there crimes related to the use of drugs often in the area?

I’m sorry for your loss. The heroin problem in Austin is huge just like everywhere else right now - my husband works in treatment here in ATX and we are both sober so I feel qualified to answer.

That being said the overwhelming majority of addicts who commit crimes do so for the money and the types of crimes they commit are burglary, theft, check fraud, etc. not murder/abduction. Addicts are sick, they’re generally not evil. How would an addict benefit from disappearing Heidi and Margo? And please don’t say to sell the baby...

 

[missy1974]

Didn’t SC say in one of his interviews that the other kids don’t know that they are missing and they are currently staying with other family members while this is going on?

He did say this in the interview in front of the apartment, the one with his Dad.

 

[Lhughessk]

How about referring to a two week old baby as a beautiful woman? Or as a new sister rather than his child?

How about the fact that the baby IS a new sister - to his son?

You said you watched an hour of video and something about personal pronouns and being strange. I expected you to have way more examples than “sister” and “women”.

 

[oviedo]

Seriously which part?

I don’t think it’s a hoax as some have put forward as a possibility. Jmo.

And I couldn’t tell by HB’s moms interview if she meant she wanted to see her grandson or wanted everyone back together again (or both). If SC isn’t allowing them to speak with their grandson it could be telling.

If I’m remembering correctly Josh Powell denied his in laws access to the children.

moo

As did Patrick Frazee and Michelle Parker’s children’s father

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Lack of concern meaning no attempts that he has stated to find her between his call at 1:40 p.m. and 6:00 when he went to pick up his son. And no calls to police for almost six hours after coming home and finding what he did.

He's really clear on hitting that snooze button,and glasses of water, picking up son from school, calling dad, but nothing about the several hours in between.
MOO

 

[Seajay]

It's been mentioned by most of us and, naturally, we'll compare these different case videos. The laughing/smiling (extensively gone over as to why that might happen), the swaying (indicative of nothing but self but soothing when stressed). Beyond that, his interviews are NOTHING like Chris Watts. Chris showed no emotion other than boy, howdy, I'm a free man. He even said, regarding spending the night without Shannan and the babies, "There's no life in the house". And, when Chris was swaying, he was watching himself on video, loading his truck and he was sweating f-ing bullets and mostly looked away from the video because he was so busted. I've never seen anyone act so damn guilty.

And, btw, when Shane said he wanted to act naturally, the stupid camera man was playing director, telling him where and how to to stand, etc. IOW, stopping Shane from acting naturally. Camera man should have just up and just shot the tape.

Thank you for mentioning the comment Shane was making about acting natural. I meant to address this. That is exactly what my take was on it, the same as yours. He was being told where to hold the phone, to stand still, to do this and that an$ Shane was telling him he just wanted to act natural, basically meaning he didn’t want to be posed or told where to stand, how to act. IMO

 

[Beth11311]

Okay so this whole beanie thing. Aside from the question about what he could be hiding or not hiding, for me it’s about the temperature. Can someone provide confirmation of when the videos were each filmed?

Before the cold snap we are currently in, it was very warm here in ATX, 82 on Sunday. 80s and sunny is too warm, IMO, to wear a beanie...and I’m a millennial (sadly).