TX TX - Jason Landry Missing After Car Found Crashed Near Luling, Dec 2020 #7

[imstilla.grandma]

“There are people out there like myself that want to help the Landry family. So we have all come together to search and find Jason to bring Jason home," says Catherine Shellman, founder of the Jason Landry search team.

“Every time we come out here, we learn something new, we learn new techniques. We learn how to make it better. We're a group of people that comes from all over Texas, all walks of life, all different ages," says Cyndi Lay, one of the leads on the Jason Landry search team.

This weekend the volunteer search group walked over 13 miles searching for any sign of Jason. The team brought in boots on the ground searchers and human remains detection dogs.

"If one of the dogs shows interests in an area, they'll radio us and we'll get a bunch of team members and go out and we'll search. We'll look in that area. So every time we feel like we get a little bit closer, it gives us more and more hope and more energy. It revitalizes us. And again, we won't stop," says Shellman.

Catherine and Cyndi have been searching for Jason since he disappeared.

"We came together because god brought us, each one of us together. There is no doubt about that. God brought us together. There's a lot of good people here," says Lay.

Jason Landry: Volunteers walk over 13 miles searching for missing Texas State student

A volunteer group walked over 13 miles searching for any sign of Texas State student Jason Landry who has been missing since December 2020.

www.fox7austin.com

 

[amih21]

I feel I am pretty up to date on Jason's threads, so I apologize if I missed this piece of info. Was listening to And Then They Were Gone podcast today and it was mentioned that Jason was only going back to his parent's house for a day and not for 'Christmas break'. I do not recall seeing that information previously. Seems that would factor in to what he had with him on his trip. Is that accurate?

 

[WingsOverTX]

I feel I am pretty up to date on Jason's threads, so I apologize if I missed this piece of info. Was listening to And Then They Were Gone podcast today and it was mentioned that Jason was only going back to his parent's house for a day and not for 'Christmas break'. I do not recall seeing that information previously. Seems that would factor in to what he had with him on his trip. Is that accurate?

I believe his plans were to meet up at a friend's house to hang out & play video games in Missouri City then go to his parent's home after his sister arrived for Christmas in a few days. I don't think it was unusual for him to pack lightly for a visit home. His parents didn't know he was driving their way that night but his friend was expecting him IIRC.

JL brought his gaming equipment with him in his backpack. It is assumed the clothes he was wearing were left in the road by him. AFAIK it is unclear what other clothing he had with him, if any, but that was not seen as odd as I guess he had some clothing at his parent's home.

I also have questioned why he was not dressed for the cold & may not have carried more with him. But I haven't read or seen anything to indicate he wasn't staying in Missouri City after visiting his friend.

Unless we can find a media or LE source to confirm the podcast statement, I think they got that detail wrong.

JMO

 

[TwinkieDefense]

May 12, 2023 article -

New Texas missing persons search team inspired by disappearance of Jason Landry

Justin McInnis, president and CEO of Texas Search and Rescue (TEXSAR), said the group has played a big role in the search for Landry.

www.wfaa.com

[…]

Snyder leads TEXSAR's Missing Persons Unit.
“Search parties, ground search teams, whether that’s K9s, aerial assets, even now a mounted unit,” he said, listing the resources TEXSAR has available.
The group's goal is to bring home missing people, like Jason Landry.
"We want nothing more than to see this program grow, be successful – ultimately it’s bringing closure to those families of the missing," Snyder said.

These resources are available to people searching for missing loved ones free of charge, all they have to do is make the request through their local law enforcement agency. TEXSAR needs that official invitation before they can start working a case.

 

[Seattle1]

I feel I am pretty up to date on Jason's threads, so I apologize if I missed this piece of info. Was listening to And Then They Were Gone podcast today and it was mentioned that Jason was only going back to his parent's house for a day and not for 'Christmas break'. I do not recall seeing that information previously. Seems that would factor in to what he had with him on his trip. Is that accurate?

I'm not familiar with "And then they were gone" but they definitely failed on the notion Jason was going home for only a day!

 

[Gemmie]

I'm not familiar with "And then they were gone" but they definitely failed on the notion Jason was going home for only a day!

I agree. Everything I recall, heard and have read, always says for "Christmas break", not "for a day". I think it's perhaps a misinterpretation of the what Kent said , and the Q asked by whomever did the ATTWG podcast. Kent said in the approved Brainscratch vid most all of us have seen:

John Lordan - A lot of people in the Websleuths community were kinda confused by some comments that your wife Lisa had made in one of her early interviews about the case. Were you expecting him to actually come home that day?

Kent - Not that particular day. He hadn't told us yet.

Gemmie again - So to me, being asked if he was expected home "that day" (the day he left with his beta and went missing) was simply the "day" he was going to first make his appearance for X amount of days. I do not recall ever hearing just how many days it was, but I never heard it was just for that day. Also, Kent had said both brothers were waiting for their sister to arrive first. Also in the vid I posted below. It was a minute or so after where I've started the vid.

Vid starting at the pertinent part:

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

Where are you Jason?

 

[renarde]

According to Project Absentis, the young volunteer firefighter who first found Jason's car underwent a polygraph examination today. "The results revealed no signs of deception."

Project Absentis

On 6/27/2023, Kallen Kidd, a volunteer firefighter in Caldwell County underwent a polygraph examination at Veridicus Inc, in San Antonio in connection with the disappearance of Jason Landry. The...

www.facebook.com

Edited to correct date to today, 6/27 (not yesterday).

 

[Gemmie]

According to Project Absentis, the young volunteer firefighter who first found Jason's car underwent a polygraph examination yesterday. "The results revealed no signs of deception."

Project Absentis

On 6/27/2023, Kallen Kidd, a volunteer firefighter in Caldwell County underwent a polygraph examination at Veridicus Inc, in San Antonio in connection with the disappearance of Jason Landry. The...

www.facebook.com

Huh. I wonder what took them so long? I wonder if there are others doing polygraphs.

 

[DeDee]

The Mission of Project Absentis (PA) is to assist families of missing persons by serving as a liaison between the families, law enforcement, media, and the public. The service is performed at little or no cost to the family.

https://www.projectabsentis.org/

 

[Seattle1]

According to Project Absentis, the young volunteer firefighter who first found Jason's car underwent a polygraph examination today. "The results revealed no signs of deception."

Project Absentis

On 6/27/2023, Kallen Kidd, a volunteer firefighter in Caldwell County underwent a polygraph examination at Veridicus Inc, in San Antonio in connection with the disappearance of Jason Landry. The...

www.facebook.com

Edited to correct date to today, 6/27 (not yesterday).

Wow. I'm a bit taken back by the emphasis here on the volunteer firefighter taking a polygraph after watching him wait on the road for Texas DPS to arrive after first risking his life searching the nearest cabins for Jason alone and unarmed. JMO

 

[DeDee]

What if...

Jason did not drive his car to Luling. What if someone from the college campus in San Marcos drove Jason's car and used his phone's Waze app, after a fatal accident occurred on campus.

Jason's family was not expecting him that night. Ken admits that in the video that Gemmie posted on May 19 #brainscratch.

No one saw Jason after his friend made the video of them the night Jason would be leaving campus - with no extra clothes just his gaming toys in a backpack. Not even the volunteer firefighter saw Jason.

Could the scene on Salt Flat Rd be a staged CS meant to appear Jason wrecked his car while driving and vanished after stripping butt naked? But, what if Jason Landry was never there in Luling bc he never left the college campus alive that night. Someone drove his car there but it wasn't Jason.

It was never proven, to my knowledge, although several decent theories were opined, we don't know how the blood spot came to be on the back of Jason's underclothes that were found in the road. Maybe Jason was hurt on campus and the car accident scene is staged to pretend he was there so LE wouldn't look on campus for him being missing.

 

[Seattle1]

What if...

Jason did not drive his car to Luling. What if someone from the college campus in San Marcos drove Jason's car and used his phone's Waze app, after a fatal accident occurred on campus.

Jason's family was not expecting him that night. Ken admits that in the video that Gemmie posted on May 19 #brainscratch.

No one saw Jason after his friend made the video of them the night Jason would be leaving campus - with no extra clothes just his gaming toys in a backpack. Not even the volunteer firefighter saw Jason.

Could the scene on Salt Flat Rd be a staged CS meant to appear Jason wrecked his car while driving and vanished after stripping butt naked? But, what if Jason Landry was never there in Luling bc he never left the college campus alive that night. Someone drove his car there but it wasn't Jason.

It was never proven, to my knowledge, although several decent theories were opined, we don't know how the blood spot came to be on the back of Jason's underclothes that were found in the road. Maybe Jason was hurt on campus and the car accident scene is staged to pretend he was there so LE wouldn't look on campus for him being missing.

I don't think so. Jason was using his phone from the moment he left campus and why his family could determine exactly what time he passed the intersection where he failed to turn to towards the onramp to I-10. He'd been Facetiming a childhood friend as well. Nobody was impersonating Jason on his phone. JMO

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

@Seattle1
Forgive me if I've forgotten something this obvious.
No where have I found anything stating that the vff went off on his own searching for Jason Landry other than driving from the wrecked car to the place in the middle of the road where his clothing was observed by vff.
On the TXDPS bodycam footage it shows vff state that there is a little abandoned house further up the road on past the clothing. Vff says he thought about going up around there and looking but changed his mind. Trooper Flores sternly says something to the effect of yeah no if I were you I'd leave those buildings alone.
And there are no cabins located on Salt Flat Rd. On the evening - early morning hours of Jason's car being found there was one unoccupied house that sat in front of the first pond drained. And on the same side a little further away was a depilated, roof falling in on itself building.

Links please if I'm confused? TIA

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

I don't think so. Jason was using his phone from the moment he left campus and why his family could determine exactly what time he passed the intersection where he failed to turn to towards the onramp to I-10. He'd been Facetiming a childhood friend as well. Nobody was impersonating Jason on his phone. JMO

Again I'm not remembering the same details as you are. It is very possible that I'm incorrect again but my memory of the events are different than yours. Again please post a link to remind me if you would please.
From my memory Jason Landry was last known to be seen or talked to by anyone other than the silent facetime recording and the next door neighbor slash Missouri City school mate was the former highschool gf as he was leaving campus. There was footage of Jason's car going under an overpass in San Marcos towards highway 80. I don't remember there being any substantial proof that the phone call, facetime, Snapchat whatever communication he and his ex were utilizing at 10:50-10:55pm as he was leaving his San Marcos apartment lasted any longer than 10:55pm.
The last known digital footprint and how investigators came to depend on the time of 11:31pm give or take as the missed right turn to go in the correct direction to get onto I-10 was a Snapchat or facetime that was sent from his former gf but was never opened. It was a photo of the two of them
" for old times sake ". Jason's phone had a digital signal at that intersection we know because his phone was able to receive the image. As I said I have reason to believe that is when any and all service on Jason's phone ceased.

I'm not attempting to be controversial but one of us incorrect.

 

[Gemmie]

Wow. I'm a bit taken back by the emphasis here on the volunteer firefighter taking a polygraph after watching him wait on the road for Texas DPS to arrive after first risking his life searching the nearest cabins for Jason alone and unarmed. JMO

I'm not taken aback by that. Well, I guess I am at how long it took them to getting around to do the poly. LE always knows more than they tell the public so the only surprise for me was why it took them so long. JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

Wow. I'm a bit taken back by the emphasis here on the volunteer firefighter taking a polygraph after watching him wait on the road for Texas DPS to arrive after first risking his life searching the nearest cabins for Jason alone and unarmed. JMO

Agreed. The good samaritan probably volunteered to take the polygraph hoping the family will move on from him. Unless I'm misreading, a non-profit released this information, not LE. I believe the Laundry family believes foul play was involved. imo

I'm still of the opinion this poor young man was impaired, wrecked his car, walked off on foot, and succumbed to the elements. imo

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

Agreed. The good samaritan probably volunteered to take the polygraph hoping the family will move on from him. Unless I'm misreading, a non-profit released this information, not LE. I believe the Laundry family believes foul play was involved. imo

I'm still of the opinion this poor young man was impaired, wrecked his car, walked off on foot, and succumbed to the elements. imo

From what I know it isn't the family who has been accusatory or pressing towards the vff.

That IMO has been the social media sleuths that won't accept his and his family's varying explanations.
Kent and Lisa Landry just want to bring their boy home and allow him to rest peacefully. They have excepted that Jason is in heaven and believe that he is no longer alive. I've seen Pastor Landry on media interviews say that is their top priority. Answering questions and figuring out how he passed would come later and the family trusts investigators to handle that aspect.

Project Absentia is a San Antonio, TX based non profit organization dedicated to Missing Persons operated by a former FBI agent,
A. Mark Pena licensed PI. The organization volunteered to assist the Landry family and have been on board from the very beginning. Their goal is to assist families, as a go between if you will, and LEO. That is where the polygraph test was administered and deemed the vff to be honest on all questions asked during the test.

I am of the same belief as you as to what happened to Jason. The only thing I can't accept is that his body is simply not out there.

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

From what I know it isn't the family who has been accusatory or pressing towards the vff.

That IMO has been the social media sleuths that won't accept his and his family's varying explanations.
Kent and Lisa Landry just want to bring their boy home and allow him to rest peacefully. They have excepted that Jason is in heaven and believe that he is no longer alive. I've seen Pastor Landry on media interviews say that is their top priority. Answering questions and figuring out how he passed would come later and the family trusts investigators to handle that aspect.

Project Absentia is a San Antonio, TX based non profit organization dedicated to Missing Persons operated by a former FBI agent,
A. Mark Pena licensed PI. The organization volunteered to assist the Landry family and have been on board from the very beginning. Their goal is to assist families, as a go between if you will, and LEO. That is where the polygraph test was administered and deemed the vff to be honest on all questions asked during the test.

I am of the same belief as you as to what happened to Jason. The only thing I can't accept is that his body is simply not out there.

I need to correct a statement I uttered above.
Correction - I mistakenly said that the vff underwent a polygraph test at Project Absentia and that wasn't accurate.

The vff underwent a polygraph questioning at Veridicus Inc a San Antonio, TX polygraph business.

Home - Need to know the Truth?

Polygraph Examinations - Polygraph services offered for Criminal, Pre-Employment, Parole & Probation, Clinical & Treatment, Internal Affairs,

veridicusinc.com

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

Also I wasn't spelling the non profit organization that specializes in MISSING PERSONS assistance and the organization that has been volunteering to help the Landry family. ( I almost messed up even worse by not proofreading my post as my spell check is insisting on switching Landry to Laundry)

The correct name is
PROJECT ABSENTIS
Below is from their website

About us​

Project Absentis (PA) was founded by Abel Pena, a retired Special Agent of the FBI, to assist & support law enforcement agencies in their investigations. Project Absentis bridges the gap between the family of the "missing" and law enforcement officials.
MOO