I would not be surprised, when and if it all comes out, that she was there as an 'Enforcer' to let mom know that it was pay up or else. And sadly, it turned out to be 'or else'.
TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #6
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I would not be surprised, when and if it all comes out, that she was there as an 'Enforcer' to let mom know that it was pay up or else. And sadly, it turned out to be 'or else'.
If you analyze her past history, she has a history of getting aggressive. Misdemeanor criminal charges (criminal mischief) have notes about domestic involvement. Terroristic threats, again aggression. Boxing - perhaps she was funneled into boxing as an outlet for aggression. In itself, it is an aggressive sport. Her myspace (confirmed on the news sites as being hers), one of her friends asks specifically for HER help after a man attacked her. We can only speculate exactly what type of help a 200+ professional boxer could give. Robberies were aggressive. She hasn't fixed her problem of getting in trouble with crime, given a number of years she could have done, so she's not in control of her reactions. Add that to her size and skills, and it just takes anger, or substances, or fear, or a need to protect herself from going back to court again. I think he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, when she wanted something and went in to get it. She wasn't bargaining on him, but there he was - and furthermore he was calling an adult.
She has shown a need to cya by showing up again and making sure that she pointed the finger at someone ELSE, in case someone witnessed her at the complex. I'd feel really afraid if I were the witness that placed her at the complex that day!
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Wouldn't it be great if all players in the case were drug tested before being interviewed?
And I do not 100% believe the length of time AD and DD had JF living with them. If Uncle did not know JF was now living with AD (his sister), meaning that he believed JF was still living with GMa, why was he hopeful that JF would be safe with GMa close by?
Perhaps, AD and JF were living with DD longer than just a few weeks, and JF may not have been living with GMa for as long as has been reported.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7869821
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He had just moved back in with his mother a few weeks ago.
Uncle: "At some points, yes, but I was hoping with my mom close by that no harm would befall him."
He [uncle] did not know the boy was living with his sister again.
She's trying to implicate another person, but she alone was seen at the complex and in the video. Honestly, with her light coloring and her build, and the way she dresses, I suspect that she was thought to be a hispanic male - thus the confusion. When I watched the video, before reading she was a female, I thought she was the alleged hispanic male. and then I said "that has to be a woman", and so it turns out it was. So it would be easy for anyone to make that mistake and thus think there was still a missing hispanic male.
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Normally in investigations we would hear "sources close to the investigation" say that so and so took a poly. Besides the mother stating her hubby took a poly, has anyone else indicated that polys were implimented?
ETA: Odd that the mother didn't include herself in saying "she passed the poly" too!
ETA: Odd that the mother didn't include herself in saying "she passed the poly" too!
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DD is definitely a character! We have a dear family friend just like this! His life's a mess, he's an alcoholic, he's always talking loud and boisterous about what a great guy/friend/father/boyfriend/worker he is, and we love him dearly because we know he wouldn't hurt a fly. Even at his worst, most depressed, cry in my pint, moments, he doesn't shed a tear. He drinks himself into no feeling because the emotions he feels are self-hatred related and he can't seem to deal with that. That's what I saw in DD's video except he wasn't completely wasted *yet*.
IIRC (and I haven't looked at the media reports yet), they found the body and then towed DD's car. I don't remember if they had the video surveillence tape yet, but they had not reviewed it. I don't think they knew anything at all about Mona until they saw that tape. Then I think they requestioned the parents which may be why Mom says she didn't blame Mona or anyone, the police went to them after they had seen the tapes.
Is it possible that Mona was "known" by all in the area without personally knowing her?
I can't wait for the presser and hope and pray that they give us more details and more facts than what we've seen so far!!
MOO :twocents:
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Lurking reporters, this is a great question to ask as well!! (I am wishing Houston reporters are really in here- can you see??)
The author said it was straight from the PIO, Kese Smith. No unnamed sources.
Houston Police PIO Smith provided information to Examiner.com Wednesday to clear up some misconceptions and to provide an update in the case (all updates and responses provided below are from PIO Smith):
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I think it's very possible that she would have been seen. If she worked apartment maintenance in the area, people would have met her as she came up to do this or that at their homes. They would have seen her taking stuff out to dumpsters, fixing things, lingering around places where she worked. It wouldn't send up a red flag if they saw her lingering around places where she didn't actually work. She's the type of worker that you would notice because of her unique appearance, and get used to seeing because of the proximity afforded by her job.
She would be an "acquaintance" to many because of her maintenance work. That would make it easy enough for her to slip in and out of situations, especially non-gated apartments such as the one where the boy lived. In one article, it states that she "works" (present tense) in apartment complexes (plural). So who would be surprised to see her at yet another. These complexes are small; likely just working for one wouldn't be enough money to cover living, even with your board covered by your job.
As we've all seen now, too, she could slip through the cracks with a bit of a non-descript appearance: man or woman, hispanic or african american or? She could be a chameleon, and I say these in *relation to the case*, in relation to the fact that she was apparently able to go right up to a door and into it. Personally, I would care if she were blue, green, fat as a house, thin as a rail, or had 20 arms and legs. It's about "how did she do it, and was there a hispanic male or was it just her".
Maybe she told Jonathan she needed to do maintenance, and he bought it because she does maintenance around?
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From this article:http://www.click2houston.com/news/26319669/detail.html
Quote:""They drilled me like I thought I was in Vietnam," David Davis said. "I know that's their job. 'It's you, it's you, it's you,' they kept saying. I told them just hammer me for a thousand days, a thousand nights. I love my boy."
David Davis said Jonathan was a sweet child who had many friends.
"He was just full of life," he said. "He was 12, but he wasn't on the 14 side. He didn't have his pants on the ground. He didn't play no punk. He played with all the little kids. Everybody knew him, and everybody loves him."
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DD may be rough, uncouth, and vocabulary challenged. But I think he is being honest. I may eat my words later, but I am not going to shred him at this time. Yes, LE may have given him some rope to hang himself, and I haven't watched all the links posted this morning (I'm halfway through.
). But at this point, I am not going to judge him a killer <Mod Snip>
Quote:""They drilled me like I thought I was in Vietnam," David Davis said. "I know that's their job. 'It's you, it's you, it's you,' they kept saying. I told them just hammer me for a thousand days, a thousand nights. I love my boy."
David Davis said Jonathan was a sweet child who had many friends.
"He was just full of life," he said. "He was 12, but he wasn't on the 14 side. He didn't have his pants on the ground. He didn't play no punk. He played with all the little kids. Everybody knew him, and everybody loves him."
End Quote.
DD may be rough, uncouth, and vocabulary challenged. But I think he is being honest. I may eat my words later, but I am not going to shred him at this time. Yes, LE may have given him some rope to hang himself, and I haven't watched all the links posted this morning (I'm halfway through.
). But at this point, I am not going to judge him a killer <Mod Snip>
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That vacuum cleaner smell in horrific. Can you imagine the stench from a burning body?
I would like to know exactly where the burn site was. Also, why didn't she burn his clothes? Why keep them? Was she planning on sending them back as a warning?
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Forgive me if this has already been discussed but does anyone gather from Mona's Oct. 16 and Oct. 21 facebook posts that she could possibly have children?
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/Monanelson5?v=wall
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/Monanelson5?v=wall
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This goes back to the mom stating that someone had made threats against Jonathan. I just can't for the life of me believe that if she told this to the officer's on scene that they would then send her off to go file a report somewhere else. And then that department would dilly dally around till later that night to do anything about it.
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Apparently if Mom was using her cell phone enroute to the dwelling she had a cell phone. If the work situation, involved a time lapse in getting an employee to the phone why did Jonathan not call the mom's cell phone directly. Is it possible, Mom did not have her cell phone on while at work? This would add to the guilt of leaving him alone.
My teens call me on my cell phone when I am at work and I am perplexed why Jonathan called the work number instead when time was of the essence in an emergency..
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