TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 - #5

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He was one suspect, not the only one. If you don't have a case then you don't have a case. I hate that there wasn't enough evidence but better to wait than to make a bad arrest and taint the whole case.
There was a surviving victim in that case (the boyfriend). He probably would have been able to pick McCurley out of a line up, and then it would have been the gas chamber for that dirt bag.
 
There was a surviving victim in that case (the boyfriend). He probably would have been able to pick McCurley out of a line up, and then it would have been the gas chamber for that dirt bag.

He also may have picked the wrong person out of a lineup. Ive been there, and it can be excruciatingly difficult to pick out who the perpetrator was, and i was face to face with mine for a good 5 minutes.
 
To reiterate what others have already said, the 3 skeletons found near Fort Worth absolutely need to be DNA tested. I keep thinking of the Vancouver/Stanley Park "Babes in the Woods" case.

From Wikipedia:

The remains of two unidentified victims (murdered about 1947) were discovered... on Wednesday, January 14, 1953. ...the medical examiner concluded that the victims were one male and one female. A DNA test conducted in 1998 proved that both victims were male. They were between the ages of six and ten when they died. Currently, neither of the victims nor any potential suspects have been identified. This case remains unsolved.

In 2018, detectives were planning on using consumer DNA databases such as Ancestry and 23andMe to research the identities of the victims.

Who knows? They could have had very good reasons to rule out the Fort Worth Missing Three from the 3 sets of remains found, and maybe it's a dead end. Maybe the remains were obviously not those of teenagers and a child. But without DNA it isn't conclusive. Not to mention the fact that those 3 victims need to be identified too.
 
To reiterate what others have already said, the 3 skeletons found near Fort Worth absolutely need to be DNA tested. I keep thinking of the Vancouver/Stanley Park "Babes in the Woods" case.

From Wikipedia:

The remains of two unidentified victims (murdered about 1947) were discovered... on Wednesday, January 14, 1953. ...the medical examiner concluded that the victims were one male and one female. A DNA test conducted in 1998 proved that both victims were male. They were between the ages of six and ten when they died. Currently, neither of the victims nor any potential suspects have been identified. This case remains unsolved.

In 2018, detectives were planning on using consumer DNA databases such as Ancestry and 23andMe to research the identities of the victims.

Who knows? They could have had very good reasons to rule out the Fort Worth Missing Three from the 3 sets of remains found, and maybe it's a dead end. Maybe the remains were obviously not those of teenagers and a child. But without DNA it isn't conclusive. Not to mention the fact that those 3 victims need to be identified too.
Suglo's article said that the skeletons belonged to "a young male, possibly 15—17 years old, and girls approximately 10 and 13 years old."
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/530c4c8a-bca4-4faf-a00e-74cdb7f858db-jpeg.154916/
 
To reiterate what others have already said, the 3 skeletons found near Fort Worth absolutely need to be DNA tested. I keep thinking of the Vancouver/Stanley Park "Babes in the Woods" case.

From Wikipedia:

The remains of two unidentified victims (murdered about 1947) were discovered... on Wednesday, January 14, 1953. ...the medical examiner concluded that the victims were one male and one female. A DNA test conducted in 1998 proved that both victims were male. They were between the ages of six and ten when they died. Currently, neither of the victims nor any potential suspects have been identified. This case remains unsolved.

In 2018, detectives were planning on using consumer DNA databases such as Ancestry and 23andMe to research the identities of the victims.

Who knows? They could have had very good reasons to rule out the Fort Worth Missing Three from the 3 sets of remains found, and maybe it's a dead end. Maybe the remains were obviously not those of teenagers and a child. But without DNA it isn't conclusive. Not to mention the fact that those 3 victims need to be identified too.
By all means PLEASE contact their sheriff’s department! EVERYONE! I call monthly! No Response. I’ve been asking about those bones.
Sheriff's Office | Brazoria County, TX
 
By all means PLEASE contact their sheriff’s department! EVERYONE! I call monthly! No Response. I’ve been asking about those bones.
Sheriff's Office | Brazoria County, TX
I seriously think this needs to be looked into more. Perhaps contacting local media, as well as local and regional LE plus even the State's representatives and family members and social media, would help. I am a non-American but I bet there are others here who can pursue this harder, as you are doing. Mistakes could have been made re. identifying male/female bones.
 
Suglo's article said that the skeletons belonged to "a young male, possibly 15—17 years old, and girls approximately 10 and 13 years old."
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/530c4c8a-bca4-4faf-a00e-74cdb7f858db-jpeg.154916/

Sorry for the length - pertinent parts bolded.

Alvin Sun Newspaper Archives
April 07, 1981 Page 1


The identification of skeletal remains of two Dickinson girls discovered south of Alvin has prompted Brazoria County Sheriff’s Department investigators to reopen similar missing persons cases from this area.

As many as nine bodies were discovered in Brazoria County between 1971 and 1975 and as many as 21 girls reported missing in Harris, Galveston and Brazoria counties in 1971 and 1972, Lt. Matt Wingo, sheriff’s investigator heading the case, said. Authorities will try to determine if the new evidence will suggest a connection among any of those cases, Wingo said.

Wingo is planning to lead a search for more bones belonging to what is believed to be a young female found off FM 2004 near the Liverpool cutoff in November 1980 and a young male found about a mile and a half west of Manvel north of Highway 6 in late 1979.

Although he has no real evidence to suggest a link, Wingo sees similarities in the cases. The bodies were all found in isolated brushy areas near water, and the victims had similarities in physical features, such as facial features and hair color. He said he didn’t know when the search in those two areas would begin.

The investigators will not resume a search in the area where the bones of the Dickinson girls were found because that area was thoroughly searched last month, he said. Wingo said authorities now have no evidence to indicate a “mass murderer" may be involved in the deaths, despite some statements in recent news reports. “We have thoughts, but not the evidence," he said.

Now investigators are going to concentrate on finding further clues that may establish a link, he said. Such an investigation could take “a couple of years," he added.

Chief investigator for the Harris County Medical Examiner’s office, Cecil Wingo, said Dr. Joseph Jachimczyk identified the remains found off CR 169 as 14-year-old Georgia Geer and 12-year-old Brooks Bracewell, both of Dickinson. The girls died of “blunt trauma to the head,” or being struck in the head by a blunt object, Wingo explained.

The “most important" of the skeletal parts turned over the the medical examiner's office by the Brazoria County Sheriff’s Department was the right section of a lower jaw, Wingo said. This allowed for positive identification of Geer. “Presumptive identification” was made on Bracewell based on physical stature comparison and dental age and skeletal age, which are determined by the chronological development of the teeth and bones.

Lt. Wingo explained that this error was probably caused because Geer had some masculine characteristics at the age of her death leading medical examiners to believe some of the remains belonged to a male. Moderately spaced and moderately protruding teeth and two dental fillings were used in identifying Bracewell.

A major portion of a yellow garment found in the search lead investigarors to further believe the second girl was Bracewell. The original search was suspended when authorities were unable to make positive identification on the bones found in 1976. Forensic odontologist Dr. Paul Stimson, who is an expert in dental identification according to Wingo, assisted in identifying the teeth found in an area southeast of Alvin. The report was modified about a year ago. when the medical examiner's office said the remains might in fact belong to three females. This information renewed Fort Worth investigators’ interest, as well as that of Brazoria County Sheriff Joe King.
Alvin Sun Newspaper Archives, Apr 7, 1981, p. 1
 
Suglo's article said that the skeletons belonged to "a young male, possibly 15—17 years old, and girls approximately 10 and 13 years old."
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/530c4c8a-bca4-4faf-a00e-74cdb7f858db-jpeg.154916/
Suglo's article said that the skeletons belonged to "a young male, possibly 15—17 years old, and girls approximately 10 and 13 years old."
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/530c4c8a-bca4-4faf-a00e-74cdb7f858db-jpeg.154916/
im also wondering if dental comparisons were able to be made, which would be another way hopefully answers can be found. However, if that was the case, I assume answers would've been found by now.
 
no i am referring to the 2 girls plus 1 guy found 5 miles southeast of Alvin, as mentioned earlier in this thread.

From post 628 above:
A major portion of a yellow garment found in the search lead investigarors to further believe the second girl was Bracewell. The original search was suspended when authorities were unable to make positive identification on the bones found in 1976. Forensic odontologist Dr. Paul Stimson, who is an expert in dental identification according to Wingo, assisted in identifying the teeth found in an area southeast of Alvin.
 
From post 628 above:
A major portion of a yellow garment found in the search lead investigarors to further believe the second girl was Bracewell. The original search was suspended when authorities were unable to make positive identification on the bones found in 1976. Forensic odontologist Dr. Paul Stimson, who is an expert in dental identification according to Wingo, assisted in identifying the teeth found in an area southeast of Alvin.
But the case I'm thinking of there was a 3rd skeleton that authorities thought was a boy but as you note it turned out to be a girl's, so does that mean the third one hasn't been id'ed yet?
 
From post 628 above:
A major portion of a yellow garment found in the search lead investigarors to further believe the second girl was Bracewell. The original search was suspended when authorities were unable to make positive identification on the bones found in 1976. Forensic odontologist Dr. Paul Stimson, who is an expert in dental identification according to Wingo, assisted in identifying the teeth found in an area southeast of Alvin.
We're talking about different finds, CCJD. We're not talking about the find of Geer and Bracewell. There were multiple finds of skeletons in Brazoria County, and later newspaper articles conflated those different finds. Geer and Bracewell's skeletons were found together with a yellow garment and with no third skeleton. They're not two of the three found on April 18, 1976. That find included three skeletons, and the only clothing found was part of a brassiere.
 
We're talking about different finds, CCJD. We're not talking about the find of Geer and Bracewell. There were multiple finds of skeletons in Brazoria County, and later newspaper articles conflated those different finds. Geer and Bracewell's skeletons were found together with a yellow garment and with no third skeleton. They're not two of the three found on April 18, 1976. That find included three skeletons, and the only clothing found was part of a brassiere.
Thanks for the clarification that I wasn't mixing things up after all! Although, it would've been great if that mystery re. the 3 skeletons had been cleared up.
 

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We're talking about different finds, CCJD. We're not talking about the find of Geer and Bracewell. There were multiple finds of skeletons in Brazoria County, and later newspaper articles conflated those different finds. Geer and Bracewell's skeletons were found together with a yellow garment and with no third skeleton. They're not two of the three found on April 18, 1976. That find included three skeletons, and the only clothing found was part of a brassiere.
was there a thread for these 2 girls that were found? I wonder if the same murderer killed them as the 3 missing ones?
 
1st clipping - from Brazosport Facts, Monday 4/19/1976, bones found Sunday (April 18, 1976).
2nd clipping - from Brazosport Facts, 4/9/1995, "...finds two human skulls and a large amount of bones on April 18, 1976"
19 Apr 1976, Page 1 - The Brazosport Facts at Newspapers.com
9 Apr 1995, Page 3 - The Brazosport Facts at Newspapers.com
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I'm not sure whether the second article is matching Geer and Bracewell to the correct "find." Many, many skeletons were found in Brazoria County in the mid 70s. Some articles seem to conflate different finds.

If you think the discovery of three skeletons was not the 4/18/76 discovery, then I'd like to know the date and location that matches the find of a 15—17 y.o. male (supposedly), a 13 y.o. female, and a 10 y.o. female.

Not one of the articles that I've read about Bracewell and Geer mentions a third skeleton being found with them.
 
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I'm not sure whether the second article is matching Geer and Bracewell to the correct "find." Many, many skeletons were found in Brazoria County in the mid 70s. Some articles seem to conflate different finds.

If you think the discovery of three skeletons was not the 4/18/76 discovery, then I'd like to know the date and location that matches the find of a 15—17 y.o. male (supposedly), a 13 y.o. female, and a 10 y.o. female.

Not one of the articles that I've read about Bracewell and Geer mentions a third skeleton being found with them.
I see that the dental records and DNA is available for at least one of the 3 girls, so I wonder if this has all been done re the discovery of the 2 girls/1 'male' and if we can somehow get confirmation as to them being eliminated as possibles or not. Perhaps we can enquire? im not American so i'm not familiar with how to do that.
 
Sorry for the length - pertinent parts bolded.

Alvin Sun Newspaper Archives
April 07, 1981 Page 1

The identification of skeletal remains of two Dickinson girls discovered south of Alvin has prompted Brazoria County Sheriff’s Department investigators to reopen similar missing persons cases from this area.

As many as nine bodies were discovered in Brazoria County between 1971 and 1975 and as many as 21 girls reported missing in Harris, Galveston and Brazoria counties in 1971 and 1972, Lt. Matt Wingo, sheriff’s investigator heading the case, said. Authorities will try to determine if the new evidence will suggest a connection among any of those cases, Wingo said.

Wingo is planning to lead a search for more bones belonging to what is believed to be a young female found off FM 2004 near the Liverpool cutoff in November 1980 and a young male found about a mile and a half west of Manvel north of Highway 6 in late 1979.

Although he has no real evidence to suggest a link, Wingo sees similarities in the cases. The bodies were all found in isolated brushy areas near water, and the victims had similarities in physical features, such as facial features and hair color. He said he didn’t know when the search in those two areas would begin.

The investigators will not resume a search in the area where the bones of the Dickinson girls were found because that area was thoroughly searched last month, he said. Wingo said authorities now have no evidence to indicate a “mass murderer" may be involved in the deaths, despite some statements in recent news reports. “We have thoughts, but not the evidence," he said.

Now investigators are going to concentrate on finding further clues that may establish a link, he said. Such an investigation could take “a couple of years," he added.

Chief investigator for the Harris County Medical Examiner’s office, Cecil Wingo, said Dr. Joseph Jachimczyk identified the remains found off CR 169 as 14-year-old Georgia Geer and 12-year-old Brooks Bracewell, both of Dickinson. The girls died of “blunt trauma to the head,” or being struck in the head by a blunt object, Wingo explained.

The “most important" of the skeletal parts turned over the the medical examiner's office by the Brazoria County Sheriff’s Department was the right section of a lower jaw, Wingo said. This allowed for positive identification of Geer. “Presumptive identification” was made on Bracewell based on physical stature comparison and dental age and skeletal age, which are determined by the chronological development of the teeth and bones.

Lt. Wingo explained that this error was probably caused because Geer had some masculine characteristics at the age of her death leading medical examiners to believe some of the remains belonged to a male. Moderately spaced and moderately protruding teeth and two dental fillings were used in identifying Bracewell.

A major portion of a yellow garment found in the search lead investigarors to further believe the second girl was Bracewell. The original search was suspended when authorities were unable to make positive identification on the bones found in 1976. Forensic odontologist Dr. Paul Stimson, who is an expert in dental identification according to Wingo, assisted in identifying the teeth found in an area southeast of Alvin. The report was modified about a year ago. when the medical examiner's office said the remains might in fact belong to three females. This information renewed Fort Worth investigators’ interest, as well as that of Brazoria County Sheriff Joe King.
Alvin Sun Newspaper Archives, Apr 7, 1981, p. 1
Sorry for the length - pertinent parts bolded.

Alvin Sun Newspaper Archives
April 07, 1981 Page 1

The identification of skeletal remains of two Dickinson girls discovered south of Alvin has prompted Brazoria County Sheriff’s Department investigators to reopen similar missing persons cases from this area.

As many as nine bodies were discovered in Brazoria County between 1971 and 1975 and as many as 21 girls reported missing in Harris, Galveston and Brazoria counties in 1971 and 1972, Lt. Matt Wingo, sheriff’s investigator heading the case, said. Authorities will try to determine if the new evidence will suggest a connection among any of those cases, Wingo said.

Wingo is planning to lead a search for more bones belonging to what is believed to be a young female found off FM 2004 near the Liverpool cutoff in November 1980 and a young male found about a mile and a half west of Manvel north of Highway 6 in late 1979.

Although he has no real evidence to suggest a link, Wingo sees similarities in the cases. The bodies were all found in isolated brushy areas near water, and the victims had similarities in physical features, such as facial features and hair color. He said he didn’t know when the search in those two areas would begin.

The investigators will not resume a search in the area where the bones of the Dickinson girls were found because that area was thoroughly searched last month, he said. Wingo said authorities now have no evidence to indicate a “mass murderer" may be involved in the deaths, despite some statements in recent news reports. “We have thoughts, but not the evidence," he said.

Now investigators are going to concentrate on finding further clues that may establish a link, he said. Such an investigation could take “a couple of years," he added.

Chief investigator for the Harris County Medical Examiner’s office, Cecil Wingo, said Dr. Joseph Jachimczyk identified the remains found off CR 169 as 14-year-old Georgia Geer and 12-year-old Brooks Bracewell, both of Dickinson. The girls died of “blunt trauma to the head,” or being struck in the head by a blunt object, Wingo explained.

The “most important" of the skeletal parts turned over the the medical examiner's office by the Brazoria County Sheriff’s Department was the right section of a lower jaw, Wingo said. This allowed for positive identification of Geer. “Presumptive identification” was made on Bracewell based on physical stature comparison and dental age and skeletal age, which are determined by the chronological development of the teeth and bones.

Lt. Wingo explained that this error was probably caused because Geer had some masculine characteristics at the age of her death leading medical examiners to believe some of the remains belonged to a male. Moderately spaced and moderately protruding teeth and two dental fillings were used in identifying Bracewell.

A major portion of a yellow garment found in the search lead investigarors to further believe the second girl was Bracewell. The original search was suspended when authorities were unable to make positive identification on the bones found in 1976. Forensic odontologist Dr. Paul Stimson, who is an expert in dental identification according to Wingo, assisted in identifying the teeth found in an area southeast of Alvin. The report was modified about a year ago. when the medical examiner's office said the remains might in fact belong to three females. This information renewed Fort Worth investigators’ interest, as well as that of Brazoria County Sheriff Joe King.
Alvin Sun Newspaper Archives, Apr 7, 1981, p. 1
The bones found in 1976 were never identified. They appeared to be two young women. Also on the 1981 dig there were various bones found scattered. Oddly they were lead there by Jon Swaim’s anonymous tip. They were lead there for a reason. Was it a serial killer who was playing with them? Why did they contact Swaim? Why did they tie it to the trio?
 
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