I never posted in the Kaytlynn threads but checked for updates once or twice a week. Throw me in with those who had a hunch it was drug related.
What a tragedy.
If there are any teen 'sleuths' here, NEVER buy in to the 'glamorous' portrayal of the drug world like you see in pop culture. It is extremely dangerous, no matter how safe it may appear on the surface. You're playing Russian roulette with your life. It doesn't matter what level you are involved in....you are just as likely to get killed over a nickelbag of pot as you are an eight ball of meth/cocaine.
To any parents here with young teens, even if you've talked to your kids about drugs you should show them this case, and especially show them pics of Kaytlynn. When you look at her you think, "she's a good girl. She'd never get involved in drugs". She probably was a good girl, but she didn't realize how dangerous this stuff really is. ANY type of drug deal can go wrong in so many ways, and those involved don't factor in your age or how cute you are.
Not the same thing as the incident she was dealing with, but here's an example of one of the incidents I dealt with in my drug days....
In my mid 20s I was in a dicey situation. We were at a certain guy's house and a gun got pulled on me. I knew if I showed any fear I was dead. Might be dead anyways. I played it cool and the tension eased until they finally put it away. How is a teen going to react in such a situation?
Like I said earlier, so much can go wrong so quickly. I'm amazed that I got out of all that crap alive.
14 year old girls(or boys) should not be involved on any level. I get wanting to smoke a joint at 14(I did), drink some beer(I did), but don't ever get involved when it comes to transactions, even as just a middleman or even gopher.
This girl's life was destroyed over it and hopefully its a wake up call to at least one kid out there.
Yes I don't believe he ever intended to sell her any weed. It was all about getting her money and killing her to shut her up. moo
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Maybe.....but drug deals are usually a tad more complex than that.
Even though I loved the Reagans, I used to make fun of Nancy Reagan's war on drugs. After being into drugs off and on through my early teen years to my late 30s.....
I no longer laugh.
She was right....
JUST SAY NO.
It does seem odd that the POI was going to 'front' them the weed.
Why does that seem odd? It happens all the time.
Its possible this would have been her first attempt.
I doubt that. You don't just wake up one day and decide to do this for *advertiser censored* and giggles.
There would've been a progression.
I am curious if there are gang affiliations or who the older gangsta is in this kid's life. Usually a youth corrupting other youths has himself been corrupted by someone else. He either set it up to kill her for $300, or she really had no idea what she was doing and showed up with poorly made dabs and he freaked out and killed her. It depends on whether she gave him $300, or he gave her an amount of weed to make dabs of which $300 would be her cut for processing (which is how I understand it went down). Good dab is not easy to make.
Yeah and sadly I can picture her doing this very thing and the whole thing going to hell in three shakes of a lamb's tail. By the time she realizes this is all a mistake and she shouldn't be doing it, it's too late.
Just awful.
This case deserves a LOT more attention than its getting.
One more thing...
I don't buy into the stuff regarding legalized marijuana and how great it is now. ALL it achieves is providing easier access to the drugs for drug dealers. That's it. I am in the minority of former drug users who vote no when it comes to the legalization of it. I've seen too much to buy the bill of goods these advocates try to sell. If its main purpose is for cancer patients, why are 99% of the people in line at these shops healthy people in their 20s and 30s laughing?
Kids are being taught that its safe and trendy to use it.
Doesn't look too safe to me....
You know, we all keep wondering how a kid as wholesome, talented, & smart as Kaytlynn could have been involved in drugs. Perhaps I'm just painfully old fashioned, but it seems to me that kids now days are not given any consequences for any unacceptable behavior beginning from the time they are very small & continuing on into their teen years. Fuddle-duddy me is willing to bet that anyone here over 40 years old knows all about consequences. Sure, all teens do stupid & dangerous stuff & I am no exception, but once upon a time there were consequences for our bad behaviors.
We live in a strange world now. Parents cant(wont) discipline their kids, people pretend to be outraged over things that never would've bothered them in the past, this 24/7 obsession with phones/social media, list goes on and on.
I don't know how we got to this point as a society but nothing good will come of it.
I live in a legalized state and I feel like I'm suddenly seeing a lot more violence and robberies related to marijuana and honestly, it's kind of terrifying because it is so common around here that these kinds of things could happen to anyone.
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Like I said above, people need to stop buying what the advocates are selling. All voting yes achieves is getting high grade marijuana into drug dealers hands a hell of a lot quicker....and legally. Instead of low grade red bud coming across the border, they get high grade marijuana that you would only see in High Times magazine years ago.
IMO they (there was another person with the POI in that initial meeting) never had the marijuana, they were hoping Kaytlynn would be alone and they would be able to go back to his apartment and do whatever to Kaytlynn during that first meeting. Drugs/potential to make money was just a lure IMO.
While I do believe the drug issue is the main reason she was killed, there was probably a sexual component to this tragedy as well.
This is another aspect of drug culture that teens(specifically girls) need to be aware of. Where there's drugs...there's sex. A teen girl is not going to go very long without getting propositioned. It could be something as simple as the dealer asking for sex to clear the debt. Girl says no.....girl now in trouble.
KCs 16yo killer gave her $300 worth of weed. Mind you, he has only lived in the complex for two weeks.
KC kicked it up a notch by forming the weed into dabs. This made the weed more valuable on the street.
She was returning the dabs to her killer, who now owed her $300, when she asked her friend, Source 1, to watch her dog.
KC left her dog with Source 1, so KC could get her money from her killer, for turning the weed into dabs.
Her 16yo killer texted her not to bring the MiniPinch poochie. To come alone. And so she did.
He basically smashed her with a hammer over $300 - $600 worth of weed but KC was only owed $300 that she would then split the profit in half with Source 1.
Simply, KC died over $150.00 because the dealer had plans other than to pay her for the $300. We know where KC ended. This is a horrible and sad development.
"Know what your children are doing." Sgt Holeman, Delphi
When seeing it in a nutshell like that, I do think he propositioned her at some point and it got very ugly very fast.
What a nightmare. I cant even imagine what her parents are going through....its even worse if they had no idea she was involved with drugs.
I feel really sorry for her. She just had no idea what she was getting into.
There is no indication she was "into, dealing, buying or selling drugs".
Uhh......that's EXACTLY what she was doing.
She ran away and then went back later?
While we need more info, the transaction probably wasn't complete. She HAD to go back.
