In case anyone's interested, I filed a FOIA request with the Social Security office that investigated the Lori Ruff case. They released the following documents as part of the request:
https://d3gn0r3afghep.cloudfront.net/foia_files/2016/02/03/1-29-16_MR17574_RES_IDAN7084.pdf
https://d3gn0r3afghep.cloudfront.net/foia_files/2016/02/03/1-29-16_MR17574_RES_IDAN7084.pdf
Will someone send me a message & catch me up? I'm lost somewhere around how exactly FH is involved, aside from TT mentioning. Who is LVK? Thanks!
For anyone who is confused, check out the link in Bill-Rodgers99 post #642 of this thread.
FH is "involved" in the investigation because according to the detective's report TT mentioned him. People are trying to search for a possible connection to FLEK.
Pasadena Texas or CA?1961 South Pasadena robbed hotel and caught with $250,000 in drugs!
I searched Pasadena for LK and only one LVK. I'm going to keep searching. Found it in the newspaper on ancestry.
Pasadena Texas or CA?
Does anyone know if Terry Turner has brothers or uncles/male cousins? There is a D. M. T. (Born in Bellingham, WA) With a daughter named Becky Sue Turner ( DOB 11/27/67) who married J.R.W. in Virginia 2/16/1985 at age 17. D.M.T, wife M.E.T. And daughter Becky show an address in Fort Bragg, NC.. I thought maybe this could be a military link. D.M.T. Appears to have a brother named K.T. Also born in WA who has moved around a lot and lists lots of po boxes.
There is another Becky Sue Turner who married a R.W.B. on 9/7/88 in Clark county, Nevada. I'm not sure if the same R.W.B. was involved in a court case in 2000 in Florida or not, but there was quite a bit of possible jail time involved in the charges.
There is a third Becky Sue Turner who married a K.R.C. On 3/25/95 in Clark county, NV.
Just thought I'd explore the possibility her real name was also Becky Sue Turner and she'd heard about and remembered young BST's story when she wanted to change identities.
The link below is an obituary for TT's mother and lists siblings.
https://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=156012&fh_id=10460
The link below is an obituary for TT's mother and lists siblings.
https://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=156012&fh_id=10460
Just so I understand... There are potentially FOUR Becky Sue Turners in this family? What on earth? I though all of the Deorr Kunz's were confusing. Good grief.Does anyone know if Terry Turner has brothers or uncles/male cousins? There is a D. M. T. (Born in Bellingham, WA) With a daughter named Becky Sue Turner ( DOB 11/27/67) who married J.R.W. in Virginia 2/16/1985 at age 17. D.M.T, wife M.E.T. And daughter Becky show an address in Fort Bragg, NC.. I thought maybe this could be a military link. D.M.T. Appears to have a brother named K.T. Also born in WA who has moved around a lot and lists lots of po boxes.
There is another Becky Sue Turner who married a R.W.B. on 9/7/88 in Clark county, Nevada. I'm not sure if the same R.W.B. was involved in a court case in 2000 in Florida or not, but there was quite a bit of possible jail time involved in the charges.
There is a third Becky Sue Turner who married a K.R.C. On 3/25/95 in Clark county, NV.
Just thought I'd explore the possibility her real name was also Becky Sue Turner and she'd heard about and remembered young BST's story when she wanted to change identities.
Just so I understand... There are potentially FOUR Becky Sue Turners in this family? What on earth? I though all of the Deorr Kunz's were confusing. Good grief.
Does anyone know if Terry Turner has brothers or uncles/male cousins? There is a D. M. T. (Born in Bellingham, WA) With a daughter named Becky Sue Turner ( DOB 11/27/67) who married J.R.W. in Virginia 2/16/1985 at age 17. D.M.T, wife M.E.T. And daughter Becky show an address in Fort Bragg, NC.. I thought maybe this could be a military link. D.M.T. Appears to have a brother named K.T. Also born in WA who has moved around a lot and lists lots of po boxes.
There is another Becky Sue Turner who married a R.W.B. on 9/7/88 in Clark county, Nevada. I'm not sure if the same R.W.B. was involved in a court case in 2000 in Florida or not, but there was quite a bit of possible jail time involved in the charges.
There is a third Becky Sue Turner who married a K.R.C. On 3/25/95 in Clark county, NV.
Just thought I'd explore the possibility her real name was also Becky Sue Turner and she'd heard about and remembered young BST's story when she wanted to change identities.
On page 2 of 4 from the documents. Velling states his theory that FLEK learned about BST's death from surviving family members.
This tells me that Velling probably thinks someone in the immediate Turner family DID know FLEK at one point.
The father TT is stated as having told Velling that F. Howder's family might have known the "whole story".
For the Howder family to know the "whole story", it means someone in the immediate Turner family had to have been friends or closely connected with the Howder family.
Seeing the eerie resemblance between FLEK and TT, and a connection to the Howder family I wonder if one of those "daughters" might have a different biological father? Jail time.
Just a wild thought I had the other day.
This would be a good point for a PI to have stepped in. Maybe Velling had to spend his "paid" time working on more prosecutable cases. That would make sense. If a PI or the Ruff family themselves came to a resolution at this point, perhaps it hasn't been shared with investigators? That would explain why she is still technically Unidentified but no one is looking?I am totally onboard with this direction. The fact that Velling noted down about FH possibly knowing the whole story just feels like a really obvious lead - Occams razor and all that... So why does the investigation seem to stop there? That's the part I don't get. Velling was doing all this work in 2011, right? But he only retired in the last six months or so, is that correct? So what was he doing between October 2011 and retirement, surely he didn't just stop investigating?
Has anyone found a clear list of FH's offspring?
I am totally onboard with this direction. The fact that Velling noted down about FH possibly knowing the whole story just feels like a really obvious lead - Occams razor and all that... So why does the investigation seem to stop there? That's the part I don't get. Velling was doing all this work in 2011, right? But he only retired in the last six months or so, is that correct? So what was he doing between October 2011 and retirement, surely he didn't just stop investigating?
Has anyone found a clear list of FH's offspring?