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Anyone know what was the upshot of all Derek's facial recognition comparisons?
Sorry, bear with me, I'm answering my own questions. Timeline from wiki (in my own words)
May 1988: She requested the birth certificate of Becky Sue Turner, a two-year-old girl who was killed in a house fire in Washington in 1971. The request was made in Bakersfield, California.
June 16th 1988: She traveled to Idaho, where she obtained a state ID card using the girl's birth certificate.
July 5th 1988: After obtaining the driver's license, Ruff went before a judge in Dallas to legally changed her name to Lori Erica Kennedy
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I now have no excuse to avoid that pesky laundry
I found Deborah J Stalder on ancestry, Ulysses S Grant High School in Van Nuys CA... class of 1977.
Birth year matches with age of Stalder mentioned in news reports.
I'm starting to think it's time to start "General Discussion and Theories" #4. This one is already at 69 pages. What do you guys think?
I found Deborah J Stalder on ancestry, Ulysses S Grant High School in Van Nuys CA... class of 1977.
Birth year matches with age of Stalder mentioned in news reports.
Sorry, bear with me, I'm answering my own questions. Timeline from wiki (in my own words)
May 1988: She requested the birth certificate of Becky Sue Turner, a two-year-old girl who was killed in a house fire in Washington in 1971. The request was made in Bakersfield, California.
June 16th 1988: She traveled to Idaho, where she obtained a state ID card using the girl's birth certificate.
July 5th 1988: After obtaining the driver's license, Ruff went before a judge in Dallas to legally changed her name to Lori Erica Kennedy
July 1988: She obtained a social security number, effectively erasing her past.
1989: She received a Texas driver license
1990: Qualified for a GED then enrolled in Dallas County Community College.
1997: Graduated from the University of Texas at Arlington in 1997, with a degree in Business Administration.
2003: Met Blake
2008: Had daughter after several miscarriages
2010: Blake files for divorce and on Xmas Eve Loris kills herself (shot in the head on in-laws driveway)
All correct?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Erica_Ruff
My thoughts are all over the place today. So in May she requested the birth certificate of BST and had it mailed to Bakersfield, California. June she went to dmv for id in Idaho. Well she had to prove residency in order to get an id, meaning she had a bill in her name or something the prove she lived there. I highly doubt she just pulled the info from online and printed it off, she had to wait for it to come in the mail. But anyways, so she got this proof then applied for a license as BST. Is there anyone here from Idaho? I'm curious of how long it takes for a license to come in or do they print in the office. I'm from Texas and it takes at least a couple of weeks to get it. I'm going to assume the same for other states for now. Within a couple of days after obtaining her license for Idaho, she's in Dallas getting her name changed? Am I the only one that thinks EVERYTHING was already set and rolling? She went before the judge but do they take walk ins did this kind of thing? I would imagine it takes an appointment to go before the judge for a name change. What are your thoughts?
Thanks for clarifying that she's listed as "Debbie" in the yearbook... I attempted to edit my post but it was too late.
Further searches (not related to yearbooks or ancestry) show an additional associated/different name of DJS living in CA... (maybe married name) also begins with "S".
And, I'd guess 'no' regarding photos. I think we're already pushing the WS rules since Stalder isn't a "missing person"
My thoughts are all over the place today. So in May she requested the birth certificate of BST and had it mailed to Bakersfield, California. June she went to dmv for id in Idaho. Well she had to prove residency in order to get an id, meaning she had a bill in her name or something the prove she lived there. I highly doubt she just pulled the info from online and printed it off, she had to wait for it to come in the mail. But anyways, so she got this proof then applied for a license as BST. Is there anyone here from Idaho? I'm curious of how long it takes for a license to come in or do they print in the office. I'm from Texas and it takes at least a couple of weeks to get it. I'm going to assume the same for other states for now. Within a couple of days after obtaining her license for Idaho, she's in Dallas getting her name changed? Am I the only one that thinks EVERYTHING was already set and rolling? She went before the judge but do they take walk ins did this kind of thing? I would imagine it takes an appointment to go before the judge for a name change. What are your thoughts?
Quoting moi - again!
We don't know in which state she started, but would she have had to actually go to Bakersfield CA herself to get BST's birth cert?
Say she started from there she then went to Idaho. Distance to Boise is over 800 miles (or a 4.5 hour flight). 3 weeks later she was in Texas, 1600 miles away.
Would there still be flight lists? Probably not.
If she did start in Philadelphia she really has covered all 4 corners hasn't she?! Over 5000 miles of travelling.
I love what our member derekj72 is doing on the FB page - he has some facial similarity software and is going through testing all the possible matches we've discussed. It gives a score out of 100 but so far nothing is giving a near enough match. He hasn't tried Cheryl yet though. The software requires a decent resolution as it focuses on the area between the eyes so some of the old pictures may not be truly accurate.
Fascinating stuff!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/487836754629522/
Hi ya! I'm a long time lurker on this thread. Maybe it's the timing, but I found the Reddit post about LEK possibly being Karen Reinert really freaky. I read the Reinert case files for the first time last week. It's not exactly that far fetched.
FWIW- LEK's height is a breaking point for me for many of the MPs that have been compared so far. I'm 5'9" and me, along with a few tall girlfriends, had reached this height by 16, give or take maybe an inch. Whoever she is, her height would have been significant. She would have most likely been tall at 9, 10, etc.
I guess this is where I circle back to Karen Reinert. Was she tall for her age?
Regarding the nose job-I'm leaning more towards the fact that her nose was once broken and she never had it "re-set." My nose was busted in 2 places when I was 19. They sent me home with strict orders to return in 1 week to have it reset. 4 days later, swelling subsided, I had a beautiful narrow new nose!! But it was also pointing in another direction when I tilted my head upward. I'm wondering if this is the case with LEK, or something similar.
Bakersfield-Gross as it is, I remember girls that went to neighboring cemeteries to obtain fake IDs in this manner. But BAKERSFIELD? I'm born and raised in the Bay Area and we call Bakersfield the armpit of CA. I would think that unless you're familiar with Bakersfield, you'd never wind up there sifting through children at cemeteries.
Anyhoo, my 2 cents. It's a fascinating story