Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 *arrests* #3

[swedeheart]

Third Fort Hood soldier body is found near the Texas base in a month | Daily Mail Online

 

[swedeheart]

Soldier found dead at area lake evidently drowned

 

[Seattle1]

Third Fort Hood soldier body is found near the Texas base in a month | Daily Mail Online

July 21, 2020

US Army officials announced Tuesday that the body of another Fort Hood soldier has been found, marking the third time in a month that a corpse related to the Texas base has been discovered. bbm

Pvt. Mejhor Morta, 26, of Pensacola, Florida was found unresponsive July 17 in the vicinity of Stillhouse Hollow Lake, around 15 miles from the Fort Hood base, officials said.

Stillhouse Hollow Lake is a reservoir located in Bell County that's managed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Fort Worth District.

The Bell County Sheriff’s Department, who is investigating the incident, is waiting for preliminary results from an autopsy before releasing any further information, Maj. T.J. Cruz, spokesman for the department, said.

Officials have not said whether the death is considered suspicious.

'The Black Knight family is truly heartbroken by the tragic loss of Private Mejhor Morta,' Lt. Col. Neil Armstrong, commander of 1st Brigade 5th Cavalry. Regiment, said. 'I would like to send my heartfelt condolences to his family, friends and loved ones.'

Morta entered the Army in September 2019 as a Bradley Fighting Vehicle mechanic.

Since May 2020, he had been assigned to 1st Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, according to a statement from Fort Hood.

Morta's awards and decorations include the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal and the Army Service Ribbon.

 

[MsBetsy]

When she described the arms room as 'blood splattered everywhere', I don't remember the exact quote, but she exaggerated the statement made to her by whomever (some Ft Hood representative?) and made it sound like an obvious bloodbath.

How do you know she exaggerated? It wouldn't be uncommon for the room to light up after using luminol, especially in the case of head bludgeoning. Usually there is cast off and spatter on walls or surrounding surfaces. Not to mention pools of blood on the floor. It makes sense that there would be many traces of blood since he allegedly had the room cleaned up in 45 minutes.

In the Gannon Stauch case, the stepmother cleaned up with vinegar and bleach for several hours. He was believed to be hit in the head with a blunt object. Investigators counted approximately 60 spots of blood on the wall alone. It was all blood spatter.

Imo

 

[ChitBrick]

MOO she going to claim AR was threatening her.

Or plea insanity

 

[Jax49]

not sure if it has been asked. Will there be a new page for this soldier? Mejhor Morta

Found one.

TX - Pvt. Mejhor Morta, 26, found dead, Ft. Hood, 17 July 2020

 

[California Sunset]

When she described the arms room as 'blood splattered everywhere', I don't remember the exact quote, but she exaggerated the statement made to her by whomever (some Ft Hood representative?) and made it sound like an obvious bloodbath.

How do you know she exaggerated? It wouldn't be uncommon for the room to light up after using luminol, especially in the case of head bludgeoning. Usually there is cast off and spatter on walls or surrounding surfaces. Not to mention pools of blood on the floor. It makes sense that there would be many traces of blood since he allegedly had the room cleaned up in 45 minutes.

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Imo

I snipped the GS part, my apologies if I offended.
BBM
Khawam did not say 'splattered' she said 'splashed',
“This heinous act caused her blood to be splashed all over the armory room,” Khawam told the Army Times.
IMHO, I interpret that as an exaggeration, simply because if it had been 'splashed' there would have been an evident crime scene posthaste. Also, in a link that is somewhere in the thread, and also in the Army Times:

Attorney Natalie Khawam told Army Times that SPC Vanessa Guillen, 20, was slain with a hammer April 22 inside the armory where she worked, and where her car keys, barracks room key, identification card and wallet were later found abandoned. Khawam said her information came from officials with the Army Criminal Investigation Command, or CID, who briefed the family on the evidence in the case.

This was also incorrect, because Vanessa was killed in AR's arms room and her possessions were left in her arms room.

Here's one of several links:
Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen was killed in armory, her body hacked up, family lawyer says
This link states the source of their info is The Army Times:

The Army Times link is here:
Missing Fort Hood soldier was killed in armory, then hacked to pieces, family’s attorney says

Does anyone else want anything about the attorney or can I rest my case that this is MHO and I showed the links with two comments that first comment is an exaggeration
and second comment is inconsistent with facts previously stated.

 

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[CocoChanel]

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[MsBetsy]

I snipped the GS part, my apologies if I offended.
BBM
Khawam did not say 'splattered' she said 'splashed',
“This heinous act caused her blood to be splashed all over the armory room,” Khawam told the Army Times.
IMHO, I interpret that as an exaggeration, simply because if it had been 'splashed' there would have been an evident crime scene posthaste. Also, in a link that is somewhere in the thread, and also in the Army Times:

Attorney Natalie Khawam told Army Times that SPC Vanessa Guillen, 20, was slain with a hammer April 22 inside the armory where she worked, and where her car keys, barracks room key, identification card and wallet were later found abandoned. Khawam said her information came from officials with the Army Criminal Investigation Command, or CID, who briefed the family on the evidence in the case.

This was also incorrect, because Vanessa was killed in AR's arms room and her possessions were left in her arms room.

Here's one of several links:
Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen was killed in armory, her body hacked up, family lawyer says
This link states the source of their info is The Army Times:

The Army Times link is here:
Missing Fort Hood soldier was killed in armory, then hacked to pieces, family’s attorney says

Does anyone else want anything about the attorney or can I rest my case that this is MHO and I showed the links with two comments that first comment is an exaggeration
and second comment is inconsistent with facts previously stated.

I guess I just don't understand why she would be accused of exaggerating an already brutal crime. Whether she used the word sprayed, splashed or splattered doesn't make it more or less of a heinous act. She is not an investigator so maybe that's why she didn't use the term "blood spatter." I'm more interested in how he managed to clean it up so fast without anyone noticing a thing. I would also like to know when they analyzed the crime scene. Was it after two weeks when he became a suspect or later?

As for which armory she was killed in, that information wasn't released until later so it's possible that neither she nor the family were given that information during that meeting. Both she and Tim Miller have consistently said that the army did not share information with them from the beginning.

We all assumed she was killed in her own armory room since CID did not reveal that information for two months. There was never any mention about her being called to his armory room in any source. That's why Khawam mentioned the text message and how it didn't add up. It was just a clue then but we didn't know what it meant.

The investigator only reported that he worked in a different building when he was specifically asked during the press conference. Yet he still did not say she left her armory room to go to his. The attorney and the family seemed just as confused as we were.

Imo

 

[GuyfromCanada]

The 22-year-old Fort Hood Military Specialist disappeared in April, allegedly murdered by another specialist at Fort Hood. She told her family, prior to her disappearance, that she had been sexually harassed at Fort Hood, and did not feel she could report it. Now, family members and others across the nation are calling for justice.

State Rep. César Blanco (D-El Paso) was among the representatives Friday. He said he’s planning to file a bill next legislative session called the Vanessa Guillén Act.

“The act will prohibit retaliation, court marshaling, and any other punishment against victims or survivors for reporting sexual assault. The idea is that the bill will ensure criminal sexual assaults can be prosecuted in state courts to the full extent of the law, to hold offenders accountable outside of the military chain of command,” Rep. Blanco said.

State Rep. César Blanco to file bill in Vanessa Guillén’s name | KXAN Austin

 

[swedeheart]

Here's what we know about 8 of the soldiers who died this year at Fort Hood - CNN

 

[MsBetsy]

The 22-year-old Fort Hood Military Specialist disappeared in April, allegedly murdered by another specialist at Fort Hood. She told her family, prior to her disappearance, that she had been sexually harassed at Fort Hood, and did not feel she could report it. Now, family members and others across the nation are calling for justice.

State Rep. César Blanco (D-El Paso) was among the representatives Friday. He said he’s planning to file a bill next legislative session called the Vanessa Guillén Act.

“The act will prohibit retaliation, court marshaling, and any other punishment against victims or survivors for reporting sexual assault. The idea is that the bill will ensure criminal sexual assaults can be prosecuted in state courts to the full extent of the law, to hold offenders accountable outside of the military chain of command,” Rep. Blanco said.

State Rep. César Blanco to file bill in Vanessa Guillén’s name | KXAN Austin

So currently the army is permitted to retaliate, punish or court marshal victims or survivors of sexual assault for reporting? I guess the bill will ensure that there are consequences for those actions.

Will that also include victims of sexual harassment? I would think that occurs much more often than assault.

 

[Boxer]

The 22-year-old Fort Hood Military Specialist disappeared in April, allegedly murdered by another specialist at Fort Hood. She told her family, prior to her disappearance, that she had been sexually harassed at Fort Hood, and did not feel she could report it. Now, family members and others across the nation are calling for justice.

State Rep. César Blanco (D-El Paso) was among the representatives Friday. He said he’s planning to file a bill next legislative session called the Vanessa Guillén Act.

“The act will prohibit retaliation, court marshaling, and any other punishment against victims or survivors for reporting sexual assault. The idea is that the bill will ensure criminal sexual assaults can be prosecuted in state courts to the full extent of the law, to hold offenders accountable outside of the military chain of command,” Rep. Blanco said.

State Rep. César Blanco to file bill in Vanessa Guillén’s name | KXAN Austin

One correction. VG was private when murdered. Her promotion was postumous, awarded beginning of July.

 

[California Sunset]

So currently the army is permitted to retaliate, punish or court marshal victims or survivors of sexual assault for reporting? I guess the bill will ensure that there are consequences for those actions.

Will that also include victims of sexual harassment? I would think that occurs much more often than assault.

BBM where does it state that?

 

[California Sunset]

One correction. VG was private when murdered. Her promotion was postumous, awarded beginning of July.

She was a PFC. Private First Class. There is a Private and a PV2. PFC in the army is an E-3.
I wasn't trying to nitpick, just clarify for the people unfamiliar with the military pay grades. When you're low on the totem pole in the military, they make sure you recognize that.

 

[Boxer]

She was a PFC. Private First Class. There is a Private and a PV2. PFC in the army is an E-3.

Yes. She was the top of 3 grades of private.

 

[California Sunset]

Error, excuse me.

 

[Ninja Bunny]

I guess I just don't understand why she would be accused of exaggerating an already brutal crime. Whether she used the word sprayed, splashed or splattered doesn't make it more or less of a heinous act. She is not an investigator so maybe that's why she didn't use the term "blood spatter." I'm more interested in how he managed to clean it up so fast without anyone noticing a thing. I would also like to know when they analyzed the crime scene. Was it after two weeks when he became a suspect or later?

As for which armory she was killed in, that information wasn't released until later so it's possible that neither she nor the family were given that information during that meeting. Both she and Tim Miller have consistently said that the army did not share information with them from the beginning.

We all assumed she was killed in her own armory room since CID did not reveal that information for two months. There was never any mention about her being called to his armory room in any source. That's why Khawam mentioned the text message and how it didn't add up. It was just a clue then but we didn't know what it meant.

The investigator only reported that he worked in a different building when he was specifically asked during the press conference. Yet he still did not say she left her armory room to go to his. The attorney and the family seemed just as confused as we were.

Imo

Agree, I don’t care what kind of Rorschach test pattern the blood spatter/splatter/splash/spray/sprinkle/tinkle/whatever made, the lawyer was trying to convey to laymen that a woman was bludgeoned to death with a hammer and it left enough blood on the walls to require some amount of time to clean it up. It was gruesome. Also, yes, the info about Vanessa being killed in AR’s armory came out later, the lawyer was going with the info she, the family, and the rest of us had at the time when we all thought it was her armory.

 

[MsBetsy]

BBM where does it state that?

It was a question. They are planning on passing a bill that will prohibit the army from retaliating or punishing victims who report sexual assault. So what I am asking is, is it presently NOT prohibited?

When the family first spoke to them during a meeting an army official reportedly told them "sexual harrassment was not a crime," but at the same time they apparently have a system in place to prevent it. I just assumed they already were prohibited from punishing victims, yet from the thousand of stories women have told (and some men) it seems to be normal and expected.

So, as I said maybe the new act will ensure that there are consequences for those actions, whereas before there were not.

It does not seem to include sexual harrassment, which I don't understand at all.