TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #44

[Elle*Bee]

I understand your view, but if it was my family I would likely be less inclined to speak with media. I suspect I would be more apt to work with LE, and things like fliers, community groups, family/friends, and even forum like this ... but I dont see myself as being adept at dealing with media or knowing who to trust. JMO

I’m inclined to agree, particularly if there are children involved...children who have lost their mother to a horrific crime and who do not need to see their father ripped apart in social media comments, etc.

 

[Tricia]

But in a news conference Friday, Assistant Chief Kevin Johnson of the Midlothian Police said Bevers’ family, friends and co-workers have been cleared of suspicion – an attempt to halt rumors that swirled after police earlier revealed the victim and her husband were having marital and financial problems

http://people.com/crime/police-clear-victims-family-friends-in-murder-of-texas-fitness-instructor/

BB is not a suspect. He has been CLEARED a long time ago.

Why would anyone want to add to his misery by bringing out his "skeletons"?

We won't allow that to happen at Websleuths.

Unless something changes drastically BB is off limits unless he is discussed in a way that does not portray him in a negative light and does not portray him as a possible suspect.

Just so we are all clear on this part of the discussion.

Thank you,
Tricia

 

[Razz]

You may be right. You may be wrong. We've had discussions that go round and round as to what was in SP's mind, but the opinions are very divided and come down to personal opinion, because NONE of us knows who SP was, so none of us knows what was in the mind of SP and therefore can't know if he was there specifically to harm MB, or for another reason from which the murder was an unfortunate consequence.



You may turn out to be right. You may turn out to be wrong. No one knows. But we do know that to this point, there is no evidence to link BB to the crime.



You are absolutely wrong on one level here, and appear to be quite wrong on another as well. First, NO ONE here is trying to intimidate you or anyone else from saying what you think. You say that as if I have done so, yet all I did was object to you claiming I was not concerned about MB, when nothing could be farther from the truth and when what I said offered no such idea. Offering the observation that there is no evidence that connects BB to this crime in any way is not an attack against MB or her character or reputation, nor is it about you; it's just an observation, and one that's quite accurate.

Secondly, your premise about the people in Midlothian appears to be completely off base, so your "why" is not applicable. That premise - that people in M are intimidated and scared to speak up - is one I find to be nonsense. They have. The family speaks on TV and in print through BB at times, and there are newspaper articles and interviews periodically. I have no doubt the family is in regular contact with LE too, whenever they feel the need. No one is stifled ...it's just that for the most part, as time goes on there's nothing to say that hasn't been sad before.

OTOH, life has to go on. That's not being cold or disrespectful, but just accepting reality. And LE can only work with what they have. So at some point, you (the family) have done what you can do, and that's all you can do (for now). That appears to be where they are.



To me that's a fake question, based on a false dichotomy. This case and forum is not BB-vs-MB at all. It's a case of find a killer, who you agree wasn't BB (and there's no evidence to say it was BB).

Instead, BB is part of the MB team. He's the father to her girls. He's the one the family depends on to speak for them and handle the public and the media. He's trying to do the right things on a million different fronts at once.

You may have no sympathy for him, but I think he deserves a break from the undue accusations (given the fact that there's been absolutely nothing to say he had any connection to the murder). IMO based on what we know..



Asked and answered multiple times. Plenty of people speak up already, and continue to do so. The idea that "no one" speaks for her is just silly.

MB is far from forgotten, and IMO the assertion to the contrary, or the idea that she has no advocates, is about as far off-base as you can get, frankly.

BB speaks for her as her unfortunate bereaved husband and father and head of the family she left. He gets bashed when he speaks for speaking, gets bashed for not speaking when he doesn't, always bashed because some just want to hate. And when he speaks his words are microscoped and nitpicked and dissected and twisted into whatever negative can be made of his willingness to speak and offer info. No-win. But he does it. That's what a man does.

The extended family obviously speaks through BB and trusts him, and apparently have nothing to add. Some here want them to do it a different way, but it's their family, they know each other, they know what works for them, and if they wanted something different said I have no doubt they would say it loud and clear (and there are plenty of microphones for that story if it existed). That's how they want things, and imo outsiders should defer to their wishes rather than demand they do it in a way to cater to outsider whims.

The press does interviews regularly, asks questions, and is available anytime there is something to add. No one is being ignored.

Behind the scenes, I am certain they all are in LE's ear as regularly as they feel they have something to say, or ask.

LE offers info from time to time, and the case is still very actively pursued after almost two years of dead ends.

It's not been solved. But it is NOT for a lack of people who care, not for a lack of digging and trying by LE, not for a lack of people speaking out, it's because they have nothing to work with. But they're doing everything they can with what they have, and we all pray one day they'll find the key to unlock the case and bring justice.

Missy was at the right place and at the right time. SP was was not. It makes it sound like MB had a choice. She did not.

That's all I'm allowed to say.





Sent from m

 

[Razz]

BB is not a suspect. He has been CLEARED a long time ago.

Why would anyone want to add to his misery by bringing out his "skeletons"?

We won't allow that to happen at Websleuths.

Unless something changes drastically BB is off limits unless he is discussed in a way that does not portray him in a negative light and does not portray him as a possible suspect.

Just so we are all clear on this part of the discussion.

Thank you,
Tricia

Then please delete my reply to SteveS.


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[Razz]

Then please delete my reply to SteveS.


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I tried deleting it myself but was unable to.

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[ATasteOfHoney]

I wonder if the fact that it was raining that fateful morning assisted SP by providing visual cover. Witnesses don’t see as much in rainy, windy environs, right?

And what about this particular camp session being the last time it was to be held at the Church before a change of venue. Where were the classes going to be moved to? What was it about the Church that would make it a good location for an ambush?

 

[arkansasmimi]

BB is not a suspect. He has been CLEARED a long time ago.

Why would anyone want to add to his misery by bringing out his "skeletons"?

We won't allow that to happen at Websleuths.

Unless something changes drastically BB is off limits unless he is discussed in a way that does not portray him in a negative light and does not portray him as a possible suspect.

Just so we are all clear on this part of the discussion.

Thank you,
Tricia

Respectfully I post this. I some what understand your post but not totally.

Not in disrespect but only this has been gone over and rules changed to what is and what is not to be discussed. I am still unsure which was the latest on who could or could not be discussed. Because it has revised multiple times - going back and forth. (Those listed in SWs) Then there was the Dec 2016 SW that was directly about MB case. Home was searched and items are listed as being seized at SW execution. That person was not arrested in MB case, nor were anyone listed in any of the other SWs in MB case.

Technically, the clearing is only that BB (family, friends & co-workers - those who were are the ones that were listed in the ATT Target Number SW & LinkedIn SWs) are not the person in the SWAT gear on video in the church video. Asst Chief Johnson at 5/20/16 press conference (last that MPD has has iirc). Both Asst Chief Johnson on 5/20 and BB on 5/24/16 state that no one is no one is completely cleared of involvement in MB murder. They now (2018) after presenting the case with many agencies, MPD is starting back at the beginning from scratch.

We (nor MPD for that matter it seems) know who or why MB was murdered. JMHO the reasons BB has or hasn't spoken is actually confusing as in any of the rest of the case. Only skeletons I have seen spoken of is due to the language in the SWs. He has stated that MBs family was going to come forth and speak to someone local. Hasn't happened. Then he came out and with his daughters. Which just added to the confusion because as with any case I have followed the family doing that is begging for answers, not saying they are forgiving the killer and then later they are moving on. I personally don't understand, but not much on this case is black and white. Here or in the real world.

Asst Chief Kevin Johnson: As would be done in any murder investigation where the suspect is not known, [the] initial focus was on people who were close to the victim, such as friends, family, and co-workers. These people are often referred to as "persons of interest." From "persons of interest" sometimes come suspects. At this point, none of the family, friends, or co-workers of Missy Bevers are considered suspects. Despite various theories circulating through social media, none of the people named in our affidavits are now suspects. Several family members seem to also be at the center of the public'sfocus. I ust want to be clear that the Bevers family, including Mr. Bevers and his father, have been cooperative, forthcoming, and provided detailed alibis that have been corroborated through independent sources. Until Missy's killer is causht, I will stop short of saying that any person is absolutely excluded, but to be clear, none of Missy's family are at the focus of this investigation. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...ne-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12581000#post12581000May

May24,2016
Richard Ray: [voiceover]But Brandon Bevers said no one should take that as meaning anybody has been cleared.

Brandon Bevers:It's just like the officers said today when I met with them. Myself and everybody else in this investigation, despite the fact that they've come out and said they are no longer suspects, doesn't meanthat they've been eradicated from the investigation, because the door has to be left open. Once they've scoured the field, they should never close the door, you know.

Richard Ray: To you or anybody else?

Brandon Bevers: To nobody.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12586070#post12586070

New lead investigator in murder of Missy Bevers putting together a team of fresh eyes
Posted Jan 26, 2018 at 8:45 AM
Updated Jan 26, 2018 at 8:48 AM

“We are kind of putting a group of guys together, and we hope that we can get together within the next month,” Vaughn stated. “Primarily it will be myself and another couple officers that have been involved in the case. Just coming up with a plan for that. Trying to hand pick some folks to come in and start back from scratch.”
“We have done that in a couple of different fashions. The first time we had homicide investigators, experienced homicide guys from Fort Worth and Dallas. We spent about eight hours and briefed the whole case,” Johnson stated. “We also went out to Austin. It was several months after this first presentation and presented to a cold case group that is hosted by Texas Sheriff’s Association. That was about a four-hour presentation that we gave them. Everybody from medical examiners to Texas Rangers to homicide guys, judges, trace evidence specialists, and a physiologist was present.”
Vaughn added that the department presented the case to members of the Southeastern Homicide Investigators Association, who asked insightful questions and made suggestions.
http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20...sy-bevers-putting-together-team-of-fresh-eyes

 

[arkansasmimi]

I wonder if the fact that it was raining that fateful morning assisted SP by providing visual cover. Witnesses don’t see as much in rainy, windy environs, right?

And what about this particular camp session being the last time it was to be held at the Church before a change of venue. Where were the classes going to be moved to? What was it about the Church that would make it a good location for an ambush?

I think it was misunderstanding on the last time at the CCoC. IIRC and I could be misremembering, but she was going to have a new location at civic center ? or something, but I don't think it was the last one for CCoC. Don't make me dig :shame: does anyone else remember getting that straightened out?

 

[Jethro4WS]

But that is not what 2 diff LEO stated, and one is in a sworn doc. You have seen the multiple photos of MB truck and how it was parked. It faces the very same direction as the West glass entrance is. So unless you and Boudy disagree that the glass entrance is not in fact West, then every one is messed up as well as your map Jethro . JMHO

The snipped portion from a ECSO report states exactly correct. JMHO

"The tape was marking off a south breeze way/entrance for the church. Inside the yellow tape was a four (4) door Ford truck. The truck was positioned facing west underneath an awning."

No. What I think you might be missing is that WE know what is north, south, east and west with respect to the church. The people at the scene and or writing the reports or search warrant affidavit might have in their notes that mention north, south east and west but, and this is the important point, they may not have known what direction was really north, east, south, west but rather just assumed as they wrote their notes.

Because the issue still stands. MPD stated Missy was found in the southwest of the building yet we have a snippet of a report/affidavit where the person clearly says they went to the north side of the building - not walked north, not went north up the hall, but to the north side of the building - and there was a body. So, one of those two things can't possibly be true and thus one of them has to be wrong and there has to be an explanation for being wrong. Hence, the talk of there being the possibility that rather than take out a compass (on your smartphone for example) the person taking notes simply assumed what was north, south, east and west with respect to the building.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
But that is not what 2 diff LEO stated, and one is in a sworn doc. You have seen the multiple photos of MB truck and how it was parked. It faces the very same direction as the West glass entrance is. So unless you and Boudy disagree that the glass entrance is not in fact West, then every one is messed up as well as your map Jethro . JMHO
The snipped portion from a ECSO report states exactly correct. JMHO

"The tape was marking off a south breeze way/entrance for the church. Inside the yellow tape was a four (4) door Ford truck. The truck was positioned facing west underneath an awning."

No. What I think you might be missing is that WE know what is north, south, east and west with respect to the church. The people at the scene and or writing the reports or search warrant affidavit might have in their notes that mention north, south east and west but, and this is the important point, they may not have known what direction was really north, east, south, west but rather just assumed as they wrote their notes.

Because the issue still stands. MPD stated Missy was found in the southwest of the building yet we have a snippet of a report/affidavit where the person clearly says they went to the north side of the building - not walked north, not went north up the hall, but to the north side of the building - and there was a body. So, one of those two things can't possibly be true and thus one of them has to be wrong and there has to be an explanation for being wrong. Hence, the talk of there being the possibility that rather than take out a compass (on your smartphone for example) the person taking notes simply assumed what was north, south, east and west with respect to the building.

It is important and by reading the documents they got it right as to which way the truck was facing WEST. And the South breezeway entrance and so forth. So JMHO they were not confused, just outsiders looking in trying to figure out what we think they mean. Just as the whole "main entrance" discussion for many threads, then MPD clarified what entrance they were speaking of in the SW. MB walked into building from main entrance on the South side of building.

Also the wording in the search warrant is not "southwest" but "south west" which there is a difference. (at least according to Google )

I disagree that they can't both be true, as I posted earlier. If the person came through the same South doors as MB did and went North no matter how they got there walked, skipped or flew they went straight from one side of building to the other. Going to the North side of the building they saw a body. I see nothing in either of the documents especially the one being a sworn document that they did not know their directions. Or to even give pause to assume they didn't know the directions. The person was giving description of their travel. From South breezeway..... into the main foyer (WEST entrance Come As You Are area .... then to the North side of the church. Then tells what s/he saw. NOT WHERE. But the iPhone iPad SW does. And it would be in the path that the report writer stated. Nothing about any other hallways. JMHO

"We walked through the south breezeway doors into the main foyer to the north side of the church. I saw a white female laying on her back. She was wearing workout style clothes."


Also neither of these documents were completed at the scene, so jmho I feel sure they had their bearings about where what was in relations to directions. There is absolutely nothing in any of the documents that show the directions in the SW and the snippet are in anyway assuming.

I personally go with what I am told from the MPD and documents to come up with where I think she was found. Not picking and choosing. So far there has been nothing said by MPD or documents that show that MB was located down the South Dutch door hallway. As far as glass, the glass found and struggle, there was glass all over the place. Windows doors, all types of items in the hallway. JMHO from following case closely. Hoping for an arrest soon.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Or that the person walked from the South entrance where LEO clarified she did, and walked NORTH straight ahead, Which is what Spann said not in same words but entered and walked down the hallway. None of the tidbits we have seen or heard states MB turned to her right and walked the South hallway. JMHO

What I will say is that when you listen to what Spann says. Reading the transcript wouldn't be helpful as it misses the way he speaks since a transcript is just words on a page. To me, what he describes is said in a way as if he is recalling watching it as one single piece of video. However, I doubt highly that at that time MPD had spent any time splicing together video sequences from a lone camera, let alone across two cameras. They would have had to take the time to make forensic copies of the hard drive the cameras recorded to, for example, before they would start messing with any files as those files are almost certainly evidence.

We didn't get spliced together or sequenced video on the first day. If I recall we got the longest sequence with movement from the west hall as the first video with time stamps. Even on the Wednesday after, we got the one single sequence of SP walking to the dutch doors. And it wasn't until the Friday after that we got the long video where they had spliced together many sequences from the same and different cameras into a flowing video.

The way those cameras recorded was that every time you see the camera start and stop (at least six times for the one sequence in the west hall for example) a new video file is created. Each camera will have its files in a separate folder on the hard drive. And I would expect that the cameras had names like 1, 2, 3, etc. or A, B, C, etc. And that would mean making notes of what camera is looking what way so they would even know what area of the church they were looking at. My point is that all of those things take time to do and Spann would have been involved in many more aspects of the crime and the information associated with those aspects. I doubt he had much time to drill down too far into any of them at the time of the first press conference.

Unless Spann mentally reconstructed watching two separate videos (by loading two separate files) and described it as if seeing one then what he described had to occur within the view of a single camera. That can only be the camera that looks East down the South hall as that is the only camera that can see the doors at the southwest entry.

That is how I interpret Spann's description of Missy last being seen - as a recounting of one continuous video sequence. Others can interpret his words however they would like. But they should recognize that there are very likely limitations in terms of what MPD would have been able to piece together (not just video) related to the crime at the time of the first press conference as there would have been quite a lot going on.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Ok so I’m not a directionally challenged person. But many of you here know that I do tend to focus on the **psychological** aspect to cases (& thank you for extending your patience with that aspect).

And on that note, I have a question....

Do you feel that MB’s “advocates” have been notably quiet because:

1. They have reason to be fearful

2. They know who did the murder and feel karma/LE will eventually bring justice

3. They feel that her memory should simply be preserved as is without more ado

What say you?

I will offer a number 4. They put resolution of her murder into the hands of Jesus and moved on. Once in Jesus' hands there is nothing more for them to do since he will take care of it. You can plainly see this with her family and in their own words (or at least you could before their SM was tightened up).

 

[TexasEx]

Early on, we had posters here who either knew her or knew someone who knew her. They gave us some insight into Midlothian's reactions, culture and local chatter. One poster knew the family well, went to the funeral, knew who the campers who found her were, and, if we can believe her, knew what they said. This particular poster was only here briefly, shortly after the murder told us that she (?) couldn't be of much help because she felt that we were on the BB/culprit bandwagon and she was only here to strenuously defend him and his family. She did not suggest who SP might be, but she did mention that Missy's reputation was widely known......even so, she claimed to have known Missy well, and commented that Missy had been terribly worried about BB's health issues. She also said that she knew the Cozines. I have remembered all this because if I saw her here again, I wanted to pick her brain......but, apparently, she just said her piece, and left. There were a few others, too, but not many details. JMO

You're right. There did initially seem to be many more locals posting here than there are now. In all the discussions here about the particulars of the crime scene, I'm surprised at what seems unknown to the public, given not only the officers on the scene but the campers who were there. Do locals not know the details or are the police and witnesses simply very good at keeping the information under seal?

 

[Jethro4WS]

are you saying my room 2 windows in this room are the 2 at each point in yours with the green markers being 8 feet apart? https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-34&p=12718328#post12718328

if so there truly more illusions for me than ever https://www.facebook.com/creeksideD...79345102342/10152111682167343/?type=3&theater

Do you have a link to the video you took your ss from in your post ? Thanks in advance https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-34&p=12718328#post12718328

The frames I used come from this video near the end of it. This is the video where someone drove around SWFA and then up to the church and went around the building clockwise.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx0LL2gY_AorTkFNa0t1ejlLdnc

 

[arkansasmimi]

What I will say is that when you listen to what Spann says. Reading the transcript wouldn't be helpful as it misses the way he speaks since a transcript is just words on a page. To me, what he describes is said in a way as if he is recalling watching it as one single piece of video. However, I doubt highly that at that time MPD had spent any time splicing together video sequences from a lone camera, let alone across two cameras. They would have had to take the time to make forensic copies of the hard drive the cameras recorded to, for example, before they would start messing with any files as those files are almost certainly evidence.

We didn't get spliced together or sequenced video on the first day. If I recall we got the longest sequence with movement from the west hall as the first video with time stamps. Even on the Wednesday after, we got the one single sequence of SP walking to the dutch doors. And it wasn't until the Friday after that we got the long video where they had spliced together many sequences from the same and different cameras into a flowing video.

The way those cameras recorded was that every time you see the camera start and stop (at least six times for the one sequence in the west hall for example) a new video file is created. Each camera will have its files in a separate folder on the hard drive. And I would expect that the cameras had names like 1, 2, 3, etc. or A, B, C, etc. And that would mean making notes of what camera is looking what way so they would even know what area of the church they were looking at. My point is that all of those things take time to do and Spann would have been involved in many more aspects of the crime and the information associated with those aspects. I doubt he had much time to drill down too far into any of them at the time of the first press conference.

Unless Spann mentally reconstructed watching two separate videos (by loading two separate files) and described it as if seeing one then what he described had to occur within the view of a single camera. That can only be the camera that looks East down the South hall as that is the only camera that can see the doors at the southwest entry.

That is how I interpret Spann's description of Missy last being seen - as a recounting of one continuous video sequence. Others can interpret his words however they would like. But they should recognize that there are very likely limitations in terms of what MPD would have been able to piece together (not just video) related to the crime at the time of the first press conference as there would have been quite a lot going on.

Yes I understand about all the cameras view and how they would be separate. And I also have watched that April 18 video too many times. I also know that we or lots of us thought that the Suspect was seen walking down a hallway because of what Spann said. But then we got the clarification from MPD that the SW was correct. That MB nor Suspect were seen again. That is where I get my thoughts that while Suspect may not literally be on camera, it triggered the camera and made some sort of notation on the video recording.

Spann said he had not seen the video they were going to release that dated Mon 4/18 but he had seen the stills. Which what they released was the 7 sec time stamp of the Suspect walking away from the door tried to breech. And the Stills were from that same area. Then we got the section released where Suspect walks to the Dutch doors. Then Fri 4/22 we got the spliced 2:26 or so piece that we see the Suspect walking halls.

I interpret that MB walked straight through the doors and continued going straight. Not turning down the hall to her right. Nothing in the totality of what we have been told or individually says that. JMHO And we know that the camera going from South to North worked because we see the Suspect on it. No where have we been told that it would not video MB once she entered into view of that camera. It would have clicked on with motion. Actually both cameras would have clicked on. We see that in the portions released.

 

[arkansasmimi]

The frames I used come from this video near the end of it. This is the video where someone drove around SWFA and then up to the church and went around the building clockwise.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx0LL2gY_AorTkFNa0t1ejlLdnc

Thanks but I don't think we are suppose to bring video unless it is from MSM. I get what your saying but the ss i posted came from media and shows the widths of the windows too. I believe DeDee also took photos and was able to get those ok'ed to use here.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Jethro, this was back on thread 37 and I realize that you have changed your map a few times. I still reviewing. But here you stated in reply to my post where I pondered it was a 13 instead of a 12. And now I may be back to that thinking as I have been scratching and replacing.
But you said this on Jan 11, 2017 long after DeDee visit in July 2016.

"I don't believe any doors to any rooms were locked in the entire building, not even the sanctuary nor the office. I do think that closets were locked for some reason.

The offices are along the South hall. There aren't any windows in the doors to the office. Nor to the Sanctuary. That camera is either looking south down the East hall - my strong belief - or north up the East hall. It can't be looking at anything in the South hall nor where the offices are because it is mounted to the ceiling about 1 foot away from the wall on the left. With a camera there the entry to the sanctuary that would be to the right would be plainly visible. There are no doors visible or breaks in the wall (for the entry to the sanctuary) along the wall on the right side visible as far as down that wall as we can see (about 50 feet due to that door being open on the left).

As for the "12" I am still stuck on that being a 12." https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-37&p=13063933#post13063933

What I don't understand about that statement is, you show window on your map then (here is July 2016 window there https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-33&p=12699959#post12699959 ) as you do current 2018. You have the room next to this door with a window, as O1.
While I still can not reconcile the room numbers still working on that with DeDee, from this video it looks like there is a pretty good size room in that area of offices next to the one with glass in front of desk.

Anyway, I can see it very possible that this is the door that the Suspect could have been breaking glass in. Not for sure but possible. I say that because it would be near to where the camera was mounted and you can see the camera shake when Suspect was hitting to break glass. JMHO not fully sold though. Just know there is glass in that door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6saH86eqmQg

 

[arkansasmimi]

The frames I used come from this video near the end of it. This is the video where someone drove around SWFA and then up to the church and went around the building clockwise.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx0LL2gY_AorTkFNa0t1ejlLdnc

Humor me. Your belief of that room I am having issues with (one with weird windows) is because of the video show 1 window with 3 lights on but not the other window correct? This is the mark on your video of that 4:20/21 sec. ...
OK... go to this mark on the video, same thing happens in an office window that you have with 2 windows (O5) 4:13 -4:16 mark. Light is on in O5 but light only seen in 1 window.

Here is a good shot from media helicopter of those windows, and the space between jmho is about what the photo I have linked up thread to those windows (with curtains)
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/H...-Dead-Inside-Midlothian-Church-376089631.html

 

[Cherry]

Going to insist we not focus on the video. It has produced nothing, let's step way outside this box.
To find this killer, set the video aside and work the case from day one.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

You're right. There did initially seem to be many more locals posting here than there are now. In all the discussions here about the particulars of the crime scene, I'm surprised at what seems unknown to the public, given not only the officers on the scene but the campers who were there. Do locals not know the details or are the police and witnesses simply very good at keeping the information under seal?

Great questions....and I think it’s good for everyone to keep asking questions since it’s 2 yrs and there’s been no justice for MB