TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #47

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sandy_80 said:
In a search warrant released May 5, police said they have reason to believe Bevers and her husband were having "an ongoing financial and marital struggle as well as intimate/personal relationship(s) external to the marriage." They say they've recovered messages on Missy's devices that are "flirtatious" and "intimate."
Police think Bevers had been in contact with her killer, who may have used a cellphone to record the slaying, according to a search warrant affidavit.

Fitness instructor's family shocked she sent 'flirtatious' messages before she was killed
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That was some of LE thinking very early in the investigation. But they traced those leads and found nothing, and later seemed to indicate they had come to believe the infidelities (by whomever and with whomever) didn't cause the killing.
 
SteveS said:
That was some of LE thinking very early in the investigation. But they traced those leads and found nothing, and later seemed to indicate they had come to believe the infidelities (by whomever and with whomever) didn't cause the killing.
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did they have a solid ground or they just thought ? if they don't know the motive or the the fact if its a premeditated the murder or not.. how can they rule out these affairs ?...jealousy is one of the strongest motives to kill women
 
sandy_80 said:
did they have a solid ground or they just thought ? if they don't know the motive or the the fact if its a premeditated the murder or not.. how can they rule out these affairs ?...jealousy is one of the strongest motives to kill women
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Does anyone know if there was a life insurance policy on Missy? If so, has it been paid?

Just wondering about money as a possible motive. MOO
 
sandy_80 said:
did they have a solid ground or they just thought ? if they don't know the motive or the the fact if its a premeditated the murder or not.. how can they rule out these affairs ?...jealousy is one of the strongest motives to kill women
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Your observations are valid as generalities. But they may or may not be what matters in THIS case. The way I understood it is that LE investigated those on the other end of the equation, and ruled out each of them as a possibility to their satisfaction.
 
SteveS said:
Your observations are valid as generalities. But they may or may not be what matters in THIS case. The way I understood it is that LE investigated those on the other end of the equation, and ruled out each of them as a possibility to their satisfaction.
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I can't see LE ruling out an infidelity as leading to a motive. LE may have looked at known infidelities and deemed them as less likely scenarios but I can't see LE ruling them out. And then there are possible infidelities that were not known to the family and friends and therefore not known by LE. I personally don't believe Missy was targeted or killed as a result of a robbery gone bad, BUT they are still on my list. I doubt if LE even knows if this was a male or female so a possible motive is probably very difficult to pin down.
 
The question about the cameras still bothers me. The disguise apparently works well for the interior cameras, but what about driving up - even to the back out of sight of the road - in a vehicle. The outside cameras would have at least picked up the vehicle on video and maybe a license tag number. Yet LE stated that the outside cameras either did not work or they malfunctioned that day. (I seem to remember that the cameras had not worked for some period of time prior to the murder.) If this killer wore a disguise for the cameras and yet was not concerned about the outside cameras did they have inside knowledge that the outside cameras did not work? Had the minister said something to the congregation about not leaving purses or valuables in their vehicles as the cameras were not working? That would likely make it closer to public knowledge to the congregation at least. Of course, it could be this person had NO knowledge of ANY cameras and the disguise was for another purpose. That last one is why I still keep targeted scenario on my list.
 
Megnut said:
Was it a hit?

Targeted
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It appears targeted - either by someone with a personal motive or a third party (hit) for someone else - or simply wrong place, wrong time is an unanswerable question. One of my problems with the targeted scenario is the breaking in and then wandering through the building. It would have been so much easier to park in the back out of site, wait till Missy shows up and then walk around to that entrance when Missy comes back out and shoot her with a .22 revolver. The KISS principle. Of course, both of the current situation and shooting Missy outside have the same disadvantage - how do you know Missy will show up well in advance of the others to the point where you can commit the murder and leave before others show up. If this is a personal thing against Missy would such a person be willing to kill a third party not involved in their grudge? If so, such a person had to be prepared in advance for the possibility of killing others as well. Trying to find logic in a murder though is probably not a valid argument
 
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Even if LE has stated that they do not believe it is related to infidelity(ies) ... LE can lie, they can lie to POI, suspects, and yes to the family members and general public if it furthers the interest of the investigation. I think this person was 'scorned'. (MOO) That can lead you down any number of paths IMO
 
I feel against the grain about this case.
Seeing the car circling the building down the road and the wandering around the church before Missy got there I truly believe this was a burglary gone wrong.
Thats why they cant find her killer. Zero connections between them.

moo
 
JnRyan said:
One of my problems with the targeted scenario is the breaking in and then wandering through the building.

It would have been so much easier to park in the back out of site, wait till Missy shows up and then walk around to that entrance when Missy comes back out and shoot her with a .22 revolver. The KISS principle.
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Humans are impulsive, emotional, and creatures of habit.

As a result, a good number of targeted murders are not carried out "Terminator Robot" style. Rather, attacks are carried out with alot of emotional input- even if that increases the risk of being caught and decreases efficiency.

Likewise, alot of perpetrators initiate targeted attacks with little prior planning and fall back on weapons they are familiar with, even if more efficient weapons are obtainable.

In short, the victim could have been very targeted despite a lack of efficiency or KISS concepts.
 
k-mac said:
I feel against the grain about this case.
Seeing the car circling the building down the road and the wandering around the church before Missy got there I truly believe this was a burglary gone wrong.
Thats why they cant find her killer. Zero connections between them.

moo
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The two incidents have not been connected. I tend to think the gun store parking lot was used for a quickie...which is why no one is claiming they were there.
 
Cryptic said:
Humans are impulsive, emotional, and creatures of habit.

As a result, a good number of targeted murders are not carried out "Terminator Robot" style. Rather, attacks are carried out with alot of emotional input- even if that increases the risk of being caught and decreases efficiency.

Likewise, alot of perpetrators initiate targeted attacks with little prior planning and fall back on weapons they are familiar with, even if more efficient weapons are obtainable.

In short, the victim could have been very targeted despite a lack of efficiency or KISS concepts.
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IOW, with no logic involved whatsoever. Shocking.
 
Razz said:
The two incidents have not been connected. I tend to think the gun store parking lot was used for a quickie...which is why no one is claiming they were there.
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I thought there was a workout person heading in to the session and noticed darker colored SUV exiting the church lot. I only saw it mentioned once and then never repeated.
 
Razz said:
The two incidents have not been connected. I tend to think the gun store parking lot was used for a quickie...which is why no one is claiming they were there.
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Hmmm...... That possibility and the fact that the car cruised the church could establish a linkage.

For example, were the victim's uhmm...."extracurricular contacts" made through a formal or semi formal group? Or, were the contacts made by the victim as an individual?

If the contacts were made through a group, was there an arranged encounter between another group member and a party at the gun store parking lot? Could the victim have been expected to be matched with a partner, then backed out, only to be attacked by an enraged participant who felt 'dissed, jealous etc ?

I would admit that this seems unlikely as the attacker / participant would have needed to have the semi SWAT get up readily available. But what if other possible encounter featured semi SWAT stuff as part of role playing?
 
Cryptic said:
Hmmm...... That possibility and the fact that the car cruised the church could establish a linkage.

For example, were the victim's uhmm...."extracurricular contacts" made through a formal or semi formal group? Or, were the contacts made by the victim as an individual?

If the contacts were made through a group, was there an arranged encounter between another group member and a party at the gun store parking lot? Could the victim have been expected to be matched with a partner, then backed out, only to be attacked by an enraged participant who felt 'dissed, jealous etc ?

I would admit that this seems unlikely as the attacker / participant would have needed to have the semi SWAT get up readily available. But what if other possible encounter featured semi SWAT stuff as part of role playing?
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Wait....what car cruised the church?

And who is the victim? You normally don't confuse me Cryptic but I'm afraid you have here.
 
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