TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #29

[Bootsctr]

Speaking of MBs family, I wanted to know who, if anyone, was with the daughters when MB left her house that morning. Or, were they left alone that particular morning?

Alone. And I think there was worry that the middle daughter could have gone with Missy that morning since she usually helped Missy, but only with the 9 a.m. classes, not the 5 a.m. one.

 

[SteveS]

[sbm]
* Room exit - how did perp escape the room after the murder without being seen on the hallway cams?
* the only broken exit of any sort seen near the SW part of the building is those exterior glass doors where MB was unloading.

Editing your post down to a couple of things I want to respond to ....

First item, regarding the perp exit, is that we have to consider there were areas without camera coverage AND cams don't always record (motion activated, but ONLY if they see the motion). Unless there are cams in the auditorium area (and we've seen no evidence there were), it provided an invisible-to-cams shortcut from one side of the building to another. If various doors were open, they could have obscured motion and kept cams from working.

Second item, is a question on this statement. I've never heard of damage to the SW doors. Do you have a reference? I've seen pics of the damage to kitchen door on N side, and evidence of repair work to NE doors in some way. With the SW entrance being the common entry point, I'd suspect the perp would have been more likely to avoid this area as much as possible, rather than do damage that would be seen outside by those driving up and raise red flags. Also, there's a "window of time" issue for doing damage here, as he wouldn't have done SW door damage before MB arrived, and he's in a hurry after the murder (and 1st camper arrived shortly thereafter). Also, given the rain, imo it would be more likely for him to exit where his vehicle was, rather than exit on one side of the building and then walk all the way around to the far side in the rain, and in danger of an early arrival seeing him.

 

[SandyQLS]

Bathrooms make sense and perp likely knew she would head there? Wonder if that's part of her normal routine. Wasn't her body found by the doors or am I remembering incorrectly?

1. “The morning before we knew anything had happened, he said ‘I’ve told her, I’ve told her she’s got to be careful.’ He was just so afraid something would happen,” said Tucker, who admitted Missy was very trusting.
from: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/04/20/...dlothian-mother-was-worried-about-her-safety/

2. MB had been teaching this 5:00AM class at CoC MWF for 7 1/2 months before her murder April 18, 2016. Gross estimate 7 mos. X 4 weeks per month X 3 classes per week = 84. With holidays, extra half month, there were approximately 80+ times that this particular class was conducted.

3. So MB had an established routine, what time to get up, what time she would leave the house, arrive at CoC approx. 4:15AM, what she would do when she got there, what she would do outside and inside to prepare, just like anyone with a job. And she was always alone, as far as we know, at that hour and for that prep.

QUESTIONS: How did SP know what MB would do inside the CoC if MB was always alone 80+ times when she opened the CoC and prepped for the class? How did SP even know that MB had a key and would open the CoC building? Many large churches have one set of outdoor accessible exterior restrooms for outdoor events, children's playground, etc. - but how did SP know so much that CoC did not have exterior restrooms? It is one thing to have stalked and observed MB's activity on the outside - time of arrival, where she would park, what door she would enter - but WHO KNEW what MB did once inside the CoC to know where to lie in wait or lure MB? Did someone ever accompany MB on any of those 80+ times MB entered the CoC? See the surveillance video of MB inside the CoC? Did MB explain to someone what she did when she went inside?

 

[GA_Peach]

Thanks, Batbrat for this diagram...it's rather like I've envisioned it based in the aerial views, at least. Keying in on the cameras...the only way I'm currently able to reconcile MB being killed off-camera AND killed in the SW part of the building if if SP lay in wait for her in the vestibule (itty bitty white rectangle off the patio entrance). The hall cams wouldn't have caught it, and the vestibule would provide darker cover than the halls at that time of the morning.

Some have suggested MB was killed in a room in that SW area. If so, yes, the killing would also be off camera, but there are at least two issues that scenario raises:

1) Enticement for room entry - it seems MB would have no cause to enter a room on her way to the vestibule to gather what she'd unloaded from her car. (Unless someone can confirm that the room there off the SW doorway is a restroom??) And if SP hid in a room and then made a noise to try to entice her, there's no certainty that she wouldn't freak out in the hallway and run the other direction (I know I would). If SP hid in a SW room and then jumped out and dragged Missy back into the room to kill her, that initial part of the attack would be on camera. But LE have specifically said that "no interaction" between the two was caught on camera. So where Missy was headed ("where he was") must've been someplace she went willingly, and simply walked into. I can only see a bathroom or the vesitbule as fitting that schematic. But, if it was a room or a bathroom, that leads us to the second issue:

2) Room exit - how did perp escape the room after the murder without being seen on the hallway cams?

LE have stated that there is no video of SP after the murder...but also that he "presumably he left the way he entered." But that second (presumed) remark was stated early on (in a presser, spontaneously, in response to reporter's question). IF SP attacked Missy in the SW corner of the building (more recently released info) but also had presumably entered via the N side of the building - if he left the way he entered, there would be hallway cctv of him leaving the SW corner attack area and heading N back to the kitchen. But again, LE has stated there is no cctv of him after the murder. So I'm left wondering if LE has now revised their knowledge of how SP left - and if SP left via a window or doorway in the vicinity of the murder right after the attack.

If SP attacked her in a SW corner room (restroom?) and then exited the building without triggering the hallway cctv cams, unless he tunneled hs way out, it seems there would be a broken front room window seen in the news videos. But there's not...the only broken exit of any sort seen near the SW part of the building is those exterior glass doors where MB was unloading. So...until I find out that there IS hallway cctv of SP after the murder (ie. LE lied), OR that those N and SW hall cams had been shot out or disabled (ie. LE didn't disclose), my logic is telling me that SP must've boogied out those SW exterior doors where she was parked right after killing her there in the vestibule.

I sense that MB was killed in a public area and not an enclosed one. MB was found right around when CG was supposed to start. I am assuming that the first campers went in for class and saw MB. Therefore, I don't think that her body was hidden from view.

There was a map posted in one of the previous threads that had the location of each interior camera.

I know, many FBI analysts agree, but according to TOS we cannot discuss BB or the family or any now private FB postings.

From the first page of this thread:

"Everyone, please read the rules as set by Tricia:

* YOU CAN SPECULATE ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE SEARCH WARRANTS AS LONG AS YOU USE THEIR INITIALS ONLY. This overrides an earlier decision I made.

*Speculation is allowed if it involves someone who has been named in the mainstream media and you can logically put this person at the scene of the crime or can suggest they were somehow involved. Speculation has to be based on some semblance of fact. In other words, you can’t speculate that the dry cleaning people killed Missy. The police have confirmed they believe Missy was targeted. That’s a good place to start. "

Tricia specifically states that we can talk about the people listed in the SW (which would include BB, RB, and VB) and further adds that we can speculate about them. While I understand that private FB accounts are off limits, where are we prevented from discussing BB and the family? I seem to be missing something.

Whoever killed MB cared for her children so the murder was planned away from them, who knew that the daughter wouldn't be with her helping? 2 or 3 people planned this in MHO, they have tried to implicate another woman by talking about affairs and jealousy, made the killing look like it was a rage killing by using a hammer to her face, really just wanted her gone, close to home IMHO.

Your first point is the one I cannot seem to move past. MB's murder seems to be filled with overflowing rage/anger/hate, but yet the perp decided to show some compassion for MB's children. It's a strange dichotomy to say the least.

 

[rodee34]

Graphic warning:

If the area circled was really where she was found, then I think she must have been murdered in the vestibule (is that where the restrooms are?) leading outside or outside under the patio... or possibly died in either location after a chase/escape attempt. If not, then at least a portion of the murder may have been captured on video.

When SP leaved the tiled hallway and rounds down to the concrete hallway there is a space not captured by either video. Since the cameras are placed near the ceiling, Is it possible that the cameras just overshot the majority of the attack in that corner? (just a question, not a fact.)

[video=youtube;ePS8TJ6UAqY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePS8TJ6UAqY[/video] (see 1.14)

 

[Scout]

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It is one thing to have stalked and observed MB's activity on the outside - time of arrival, where she would park, what door she would enter - but WHO KNEW what MB did once inside the CoC to know where to lie in wait or lure MB? Did someone ever accompany MB on any of those 80+ times MB entered the CoC? See the surveillance video of MB inside the CoC? Did MB explain to someone what she did when she went inside?

These are very good questions. Questions that hopefully investigators are considering.

 

[Camerabug]

I'd think a statistician or profiler would put her involvement at about as close to 0% as you could go.

I've personally learned (or reinforced) a couple things. 1. The mind has a momentum of it's own and can easily read in things that probably aren't there. 2. If you're ever in that situation, keep your mouth shut. Almost never does your talking make you look more innocent and usually, you look guiltier.

I've helped on a few cases within our company of fraud and management sexual misconduct (for lack of a better term). We aren't a big enough company to have a team of experts in those fields, so they send me along for a second witness to the "expert". And here's what I've discovered. Deny everything. Everything. Even if the "gun" is right there. Someone took my gun! DON'T try justify or minimize. That'll get you every time. Just deny that you did anything. You have no idea what they are talking about! If the perp is decently wily, that often can throw the investigation off enough to create doubt and confusion. It forces the accuser to have a level of evidence he/she probably does not have. Sounds dumb, but I've seen it work enough times to give it some cred.

I agree-never help someone build a case against you. Make them work for it. I have seen people attempt to be honest and helpful in an employment-type situation only to have that used against them later. Perhaps criminal works the same way.

That said, I haven't eliminated anyone from consideration yet. I do have my suspicions, however..but I don't want to violate TOS on my first post.

 

[rodee34]

Thanks, Batbrat for this diagram...it's rather like I've envisioned it based in the aerial views, at least. Keying in on the cameras...the only way I'm currently able to reconcile MB being killed off-camera AND killed in the SW part of the building if if SP lay in wait for her in the vestibule (itty bitty white rectangle off the patio entrance). The hall cams wouldn't have caught it, and the vestibule would provide darker cover than the halls at that time of the morning.

Some have suggested MB was killed in a room in that SW area. If so, yes, the killing would also be off camera, but there are at least two issues that scenario raises:

1) Enticement for room entry - it seems MB would have no cause to enter a room on her way to the vestibule to gather what she'd unloaded from her car. (Unless someone can confirm that the room there off the SW doorway is a restroom??) And if SP hid in a room and then made a noise to try to entice her, there's no certainty that she wouldn't freak out in the hallway and run the other direction (I know I would). If SP hid in a SW room and then jumped out and dragged Missy back into the room to kill her, that initial part of the attack would be on camera. But LE have specifically said that "no interaction" between the two was caught on camera. So where Missy was headed ("where he was") must've been someplace she went willingly, and simply walked into. I can only see a bathroom or the vesitbule as fitting that schematic. But, if it was a room or a bathroom, that leads us to the second issue:

2) Room exit - how did perp escape the room after the murder without being seen on the hallway cams?

LE have stated that there is no video of SP after the murder...but also that he "presumably he left the way he entered." But that second (presumed) remark was stated early on (in a presser, spontaneously, in response to reporter's question). IF SP attacked Missy in the SW corner of the building (more recently released info) but also had presumably entered via the N side of the building - if he left the way he entered, there would be hallway cctv of him leaving the SW corner attack area and heading N back to the kitchen. But again, LE has stated there is no cctv of him after the murder. So I'm left wondering if LE has now revised their knowledge of how SP left - and if SP left via a window or doorway in the vicinity of the murder right after the attack.

If SP attacked her in a SW corner room (restroom?) and then exited the building without triggering the hallway cctv cams, unless he tunneled hs way out, it seems there would be a broken front room window seen in the news videos. But there's not...the only broken exit of any sort seen near the SW part of the building is those exterior glass doors where MB was unloading. So...until I find out that there IS hallway cctv of SP after the murder (ie. LE lied), OR that those N and SW hall cams had been shot out or disabled (ie. LE didn't disclose), my logic is telling me that SP must've boogied out those SW exterior doors where she was parked right after killing her there in the vestibule.

There had to be a blood trail left behind.. no matter which way SP left, wouldn't you think? (just my thoughts)

 

[zoeneli]

I sense that MB was killed in a public area and not an enclosed one. MB was found right around when CG was supposed to start. I am assuming that the first campers went in for class and saw MB. Therefore, I don't think that her body was hidden from view.

There was a map posted in one of the previous threads that had the location of each interior camera. SBM for space

I was trying to find those pictures from that post. I think there were a few actual interior pictures made it seem like I could envision where it could have happened. There was some discussion on which of the 2 cameras in the SW corner might have caught her arrival if the outside cameras weren't working. I think some believed one of those two would actually have a small view of the outside, covered area as well.

I don't ever seem to have much luck with the thread search functions, but I will keep looking.

 

[Camerabug]

Was taking the shirt to the local dry cleaner an attempt to see what the reaction would be? That shirt was known by RB to have dog blood on it. Sure enough, townsfolk were all over it and LE informed.

 

[Camerabug]

Thanks, Batbrat for this diagram...it's rather like I've envisioned it based in the aerial views, at least. Keying in on the cameras...the only way I'm currently able to reconcile MB being killed off-camera AND killed in the SW part of the building if if SP lay in wait for her in the vestibule (itty bitty white rectangle off the patio entrance). The hall cams wouldn't have caught it, and the vestibule would provide darker cover than the halls at that time of the morning.

Some have suggested MB was killed in a room in that SW area. If so, yes, the killing would also be off camera, but there are at least two issues that scenario raises:

1) Enticement for room entry - it seems MB would have no cause to enter a room on her way to the vestibule to gather what she'd unloaded from her car. (Unless someone can confirm that the room there off the SW doorway is a restroom??) And if SP hid in a room and then made a noise to try to entice her, there's no certainty that she wouldn't freak out in the hallway and run the other direction (I know I would). If SP hid in a SW room and then jumped out and dragged Missy back into the room to kill her, that initial part of the attack would be on camera. But LE have specifically said that "no interaction" between the two was caught on camera. So where Missy was headed ("where he was") must've been someplace she went willingly, and simply walked into. I can only see a bathroom or the vesitbule as fitting that schematic. But, if it was a room or a bathroom, that leads us to the second issue:

2) Room exit - how did perp escape the room after the murder without being seen on the hallway cams?

LE have stated that there is no video of SP after the murder...but also that he "presumably he left the way he entered." But that second (presumed) remark was stated early on (in a presser, spontaneously, in response to reporter's question). IF SP attacked Missy in the SW corner of the building (more recently released info) but also had presumably entered via the N side of the building - if he left the way he entered, there would be hallway cctv of him leaving the SW corner attack area and heading N back to the kitchen. But again, LE has stated there is no cctv of him after the murder. So I'm left wondering if LE has now revised their knowledge of how SP left - and if SP left via a window or doorway in the vicinity of the murder right after the attack.

If SP attacked her in a SW corner room (restroom?) and then exited the building without triggering the hallway cctv cams, unless he tunneled hs way out, it seems there would be a broken front room window seen in the news videos. But there's not...the only broken exit of any sort seen near the SW part of the building is those exterior glass doors where MB was unloading. So...until I find out that there IS hallway cctv of SP after the murder (ie. LE lied), OR that those N and SW hall cams had been shot out or disabled (ie. LE didn't disclose), my logic is telling me that SP must've boogied out those SW exterior doors where she was parked right after killing her there in the vestibule.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. It seems to me that the reason the SP was wandering the halls was in search of cameras. The perp had decided to kill MB and was in the building deciding WHERE to do it. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[SandyQLS]

Whoever killed MB cared for her family so the murder was planned away from them, who knew that someone wouldn't be with her helping? 2 or 3 people planned this in MHO, they have tried to implicate another woman by talking about affairs and jealousy, made the killing look like it was a rage killing by using a hammer to her face, really just wanted her gone, close to home IMHO.

RBBM and changed two words in your post which are blue.

I disagree with the bolded part - I do not think SP "cared" for the other occupants. If this was a planned murder, the SP is a highly organized type who had a detailed plan which likely included Plan B variables. Other occupants of a house are obstacles, threats, interference, persons who can dial 911, extra persons to disable or murder if necessary, noisemakers, "you cannot herd cats" and one occupant may run to a neighbor, there may be a dog, and, a victim has an advantage in their own home because they know the space intimately, for example where a gun is hidden. The CoC space elimates all of these issues and more, and gave the advantage to SP who controlled that space. JMO, not bashing you or your post, I just disagree that this SP cared about anybody, and to me, SP's actions were very mission-oriented, operational, an op. I do agree with you that if there are more persons involved in a conspiracy that those persons may care about the family.

 

[knowthings]

SP sure does not look as if he/she is in a rage, very calm and relaxed, not a hint of adrenaline racing through their body or even anxiety.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Editing your post down to a couple of things I want to respond to ....

First item, regarding the perp exit, is that we have to consider there were areas without camera coverage AND cams don't always record (motion activated, but ONLY if they see the motion). Unless there are cams in the auditorium area (and we've seen no evidence there were), it provided an invisible-to-cams shortcut from one side of the building to another. If various doors were open, they could have obscured motion and kept cams from working.

I agree there were probably no cams in the auditorium, but if SP killed Missy in the SW corner of the building, there were 3 hall cams in that area (according to ArkansasMimi's and Nancy Grace's diagram of that corner by the awning). So, JMO, but I don't see SP cutting through the auditorium from a perimeter room without setting off one of those motion-activated cams. (Unless disabled.) And seems he'd have also set off northern hallway cams when he crossed from auditorium to kitchen, again (unless disabled).

Second item, is a question on this statement. I've never heard of damage to the SW doors. Do you have a reference? I've seen pics of the damage to kitchen door on N side, and evidence of repair work to NE doors in some way. With the SW entrance being the common entry point, I'd suspect the perp would have been more likely to avoid this area as much as possible, rather than do damage that would be seen outside by those driving up and raise red flags. Also, there's a "window of time" issue for doing damage here, as he wouldn't have done SW door damage before MB arrived, and he's in a hurry after the murder (and 1st camper arrived shortly thereafter). Also, given the rain, imo it would be more likely for him to exit where his vehicle was, rather than exit on one side of the building and then walk all the way around to the far side in the rain, and in danger of an early arrival seeing him.
I don't think he damaged the SW doors prior to Missy's arrival.

I actually don't know about damage to those doors, for sure, as I haven't read anything specific concerning them, and the only photos I have (screengrabs from a video) show one of them propped open with LE going in and out, with some of the doors and stationary windows obscured:



We were told there was a lot of broken glass and signs of struggle, but you can't actually tell from the video or photo if any of those glass doors were broken. And I agree, I don't think he'd have broken those doors prior to her arrival or she'd never have entered the building. (I ascribe to the targeted hit and ambush theory.)

We're told that Missy had entered the building and was headed "in the direction where [SP] was" to open those SW doors, though, so there are a couple possibilities:

Either a door or stationary window there got broken or shot out during the struggle (presumably the door that's propped open or a door/window behind a column that we can't see), OR he simply pushed out those exit doors like Missy was planning to do (to bring her stuff in). If Missy planned on hauling her stuff into the building from those doors, presumably the master key entry that she'd used also opened those SW exterior doors. So whether or not those doors were actually broken OR unlocked, SP could exit via the doors if Missy herself had entered the building with plans to open them from the inside.

ETA: I'm one of the strange few that believe SP exited on foot, not by car. Even with the rain (which was starting to let up by 4:30). So Camper 1 or the SWFA capturing his getaway car was not an issue in the scenario I'm envisioning. I believe he took an immediate left outside the doors, and probably hightailed it to the rear of the building, then proceeded northward via the creekline to his morning destination, shedding his SP gear along the way in a reservoir or pond.

 

[observation]

I sense that MB was killed in a public area and not an enclosed one. MB was found right around when CG was supposed to start. I am assuming that the first campers went in for class and saw MB. Therefore, I don't think that her body was hidden from view.

There was a map posted in one of the previous threads that had the location of each interior camera.



From the first page of this thread:

"Everyone, please read the rules as set by Tricia:

* YOU CAN SPECULATE ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE SEARCH WARRANTS AS LONG AS YOU USE THEIR INITIALS ONLY. This overrides an earlier decision I made.

*Speculation is allowed if it involves someone who has been named in the mainstream media and you can logically put this person at the scene of the crime or can suggest they were somehow involved. Speculation has to be based on some semblance of fact. In other words, you can’t speculate that the dry cleaning people killed Missy. The police have confirmed they believe Missy was targeted. That’s a good place to start. "

Tricia specifically states that we can talk about the people listed in the SW (which would include BB, RB, and VB) and further adds that we can speculate about them. While I understand that private FB accounts are off limits, where are we prevented from discussing BB and the family? I seem to be missing something.


Your first point is the one I cannot seem to move past. MB's murder seems to be filled with overflowing rage/anger/hate, but yet the perp decided to show some compassion for MB's children.It's a strange dichotomy to say the least.

RBBM- how did the SP show compassion for MB's children? He or she left them to grow-up without a mother- it's cruel. If MB was killed in her home and the 3 girls were spared- I may lean toward the statement I bolded above. Otherwise, no, SP showed no compassion for MB, her family or friends.


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[observation]

SP sure does not look as if he/she is in a rage, very calm and relaxed, not a hint of adrenaline racing through their body or even anxiety.

Calm before the storm. Did you expect to see the SP stretching and doing calisthenics? Lol


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[ardenmost]

Speaking of MBs family, I wanted to know who, if anyone, was with the daughters when MB left her house that morning. Or, were they left alone that particular morning?

I have been told they were home alone.

 

[cfreyja23]

Calm before the storm. Did you expect to see the SP stretching and doing calisthenics? Lol


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I thought the same thing at first, but given that his/her (I use this though I believe it is a male) face and chest are covered, I'm not sure what signs of anxiety we would see at that point that are not obscured by the outfit. When s/he looks up at the camera, I think there's a little anxiety there, but that's just MHO. All of the calm walking around, to me, occurred during his/her attempts at staging (like the utterly lackluster attempt to pry open that door). I think s/he was just trying to make marks that looked like a burglary, and there's probably not a lot of anxiety in that particular act of staging.

I wonder, though, what would be point of making sure the murder occurred away from the cameras. Why would s/he be concerned about that, as others have suggested. Surely, s/he knew that LE would figure out how MB was killed anyway. What would seeing it give away?

 

[Bootsctr]

There had to be a blood trail left behind.. no matter which way SP left, wouldn't you think? (just my thoughts)

I think so too. I just think of head wounds being very bloody.

 

[Camerabug]

Thanks, Batbrat for this diagram...it's rather like I've envisioned it based in the aerial views, at least. Keying in on the cameras...the only way I'm currently able to reconcile MB being killed off-camera AND killed in the SW part of the building if if SP lay in wait for her in the vestibule (itty bitty white rectangle off the patio entrance). The hall cams wouldn't have caught it, and the vestibule would provide darker cover than the halls at that time of the morning.

Some have suggested MB was killed in a room in that SW area. If so, yes, the killing would also be off camera, but there are at least two issues that scenario raises:

1) Enticement for room entry - it seems MB would have no cause to enter a room on her way to the vestibule to gather what she'd unloaded from her car. (Unless someone can confirm that the room there off the SW doorway is a restroom??) And if SP hid in a room and then made a noise to try to entice her, there's no certainty that she wouldn't freak out in the hallway and run the other direction (I know I would). If SP hid in a SW room and then jumped out and dragged Missy back into the room to kill her, that initial part of the attack would be on camera. But LE have specifically said that "no interaction" between the two was caught on camera. So where Missy was headed ("where he was") must've been someplace she went willingly, and simply walked into. I can only see a bathroom or the vesitbule as fitting that schematic. But, if it was a room or a bathroom, that leads us to the second issue:

2) Room exit - how did perp escape the room after the murder without being seen on the hallway cams?

LE have stated that there is no video of SP after the murder...but also that he "presumably he left the way he entered." But that second (presumed) remark was stated early on (in a presser, spontaneously, in response to reporter's question). IF SP attacked Missy in the SW corner of the building (more recently released info) but also had presumably entered via the N side of the building - if he left the way he entered, there would be hallway cctv of him leaving the SW corner attack area and heading N back to the kitchen. But again, LE has stated there is no cctv of him after the murder. So I'm left wondering if LE has now revised their knowledge of how SP left - and if SP left via a window or doorway in the vicinity of the murder right after the attack.

If SP attacked her in a SW corner room (restroom?) and then exited the building without triggering the hallway cctv cams, unless he tunneled hs way out, it seems there would be a broken front room window seen in the news videos. But there's not...the only broken exit of any sort seen near the SW part of the building is those exterior glass doors where MB was unloading. So...until I find out that there IS hallway cctv of SP after the murder (ie. LE lied), OR that those N and SW hall cams had been shot out or disabled (ie. LE didn't disclose), my logic is telling me that SP must've boogied out those SW exterior doors where she was parked right after killing her there in the vestibule.[/QUOTE

there seemed to be no real reason why the SP was opening doors and leaving them open...could that have concealed his/her exit? for that matter, could an open door have concealed the murder itself?