TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #29

[observation]

CT is a pretty smart girl.

Do you mean MT or CT? Just curious.


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[Seriously?]

Yes or someone that maybe helped her from time to time. JMO but this crime was well executed from start to finish. I don't think it was planned for a rainy day but it sure didn't hurt their (yes I said their) plan. It would be interesting if SWFA may have video in weeks leading up to murder if a car was seen in the parking lot at that time of the morning (LE has probably already thought of this) or if the church cameras outside were working and may have picked up something. Just my thoughts.

If I'm remembering correctly, she was soon moving from this location to a less isolated place. Agree - it was very well executed and the rain may have caused some minor problems - like a need to change out of wet clothes, not leave a lot of food prints outside (but really, we don't know if they did or didn't). Agree that those outside cameras picked up something, and it's not disclosed and/or the inside cameras have a much better picture of the killer than we've seen. Hope so.

 

[Montjoy]

Maybe so but all the assumptions aside, Camp Gladiators is pretty shady. I've worked in the largest retailers office (in the world dear) and I know practices. That contract is a real bad deal and no one picks up the phone on the other end. Missy worked for a commission only. Camp Gladiators is not in my area, but then again, neither is Payday Loans.

Agreed. And all of these comments are independent of MB's murder -- just saying, JMO. The business model is dubious. The product is more a matter of marketing than physical education. Years back, I used to tutor division 1 athletes when I was in grad school, and a number of them were injured when they decided, as a lark, to do the Billy Blanks Tae Bo (?) program for a bit of fun fitness. The whole CG enterprise reminds me of that. More marketing than substance.

Again, I'm not suggesting this has anything to do with MB's murder, any more than the 'nutritional supplements' that she was peddling.

 

[verbonica]

I think MT was eluding to the fact that there was a lot of crock pot meals and that the family was not having meals together because of MBs CG schedule and the schedule of the girls sports schedules. Yes lots of parents make crock pot meals no harm there but JMO she was taking a dig at MB. (Sorry SandyQS - didn't mean to get you in trouble)

Ah, I see what you mean. I guess I wasn't familiar with the term "crock pot meals" being used to be sort of on a par with "latch key kids" or something like that.

 

[arkansasmimi]

If I'm remembering correctly, she was soon moving from this location to a less isolated place. Agree - it was very well executed and the rain may have caused some minor problems - like a need to change out of wet clothes, not leave a lot of food prints outside (but really, we don't know if they did or didn't). Agree that those outside cameras picked up something, and it's not disclosed and/or the inside cameras have a much better picture of the killer than we've seen. Hope so.

Respectfully BBM, I have seen this posted multiple times here at WS, but nothing in the MSM or on her FB from time I started following this case that said she was moving from Creekside. Do you have a like or know where it was said? Thanks (just asking not meaning to be snarky sounding)

 

[WannaBDetective]

I think there were possible a few individuals that wanted MB dead. Certainly a few whose reaction does not match grief.The plan was created to have set in stone alibis fora few- with an airtight plan for the murderer with identity concealment. Many planned murders involve a group.
I am think a combo deal happened- my guess a tri-angle. The group involved had different reasons for wanting her murdered. But one stepped up for the kill- maybe got played by the group to execute. JMHO

This is similar to a thought I had a week or two ago when it seemed like there was more than one potentially guilty looking person. It wouldn't be crazy to think two people stood to gain from her death, separate, independent and unaware of the other (either with the same motive or different motive).

While both thought it; and both may even have talked to someone and/or started some planning. Only one actually ended up going forward with it. And there's a party out there that's saying. Woah. That's too close. I didn't do it. Might have thought it or even done a little legwork for it; but I didn't do anything. Someone else did!

 

[Montjoy]

Is it just me, or for some of the rest of you, is it not mind-blowingly-bizarre how MB's mother-in-law has somehow become a target for suspicion, over the course of a number of pages here?

 

[WannaBDetective]

Related question. The "hit" angle is decently popular here. Who is the "hitman"? A relative? A professional? Someone off the grid (Mexican national)?

 

[makista]

Do you mean MT or CT? Just curious.


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You and NIN pointed out my typo. I guess it's MT although I think CT would know this as well. This contract isn't rocket science, this is a locked in deal. It takes a few minutes to research this and the contract can be locked in for more than 12 months. They renew it every month after that, and don't pick-up the phone and throw your mail requests away. If MB was my daughter, I would have problems with her working there. Sure, there is nothing I could do about it but you know, this expression ( Now that I've engaged my brain in it) is no different than someone saying that it was bound to happen and let's get it over with. ( I know we are speaking about a crime here and in no way am I trying to say this is right). There is very little difference in this and selling goods door-to-door in very high crime areas.( and starting out at four am in the morning) Now, that I think about it ( I guess my brain was in Orlando) I can see the crime of passion here now with the eary voice from LinkedIn. That was was a warning to stay home and Missy was working on a commission. (MOO)

 

[bluesneakers]

Is it just me, or for some of the rest of you, is it not mind-blowingly-bizarre how MB's mother-in-law has somehow become a target for suspicion, over the course of a number of pages here?

Fascinating, isn't it?

 

[11frogs]

Respectfully BBM, I have seen this posted multiple times here at WS, but nothing in the MSM or on her FB from time I started following this case that said she was moving from Creekside. Do you have a like or know where it was said? Thanks (just asking not meaning to be snarky sounding)

I know her 9am class was moved to new location. I haven't heard that the 5am was moving from any of the locals here . Hope this helps.

 

[SteveS]

SteveS is correct [sbm] IMHO. He says a SW may not be kept secret, which is true. You can read the Texas rules of criminal procedure chapter 18 regarding search warrants and you will not find anywhere in there a provision for keeping a SW secret. And in fact, Article 18.011(d)(1) says specifically that an order issued under this section (talking about the sealing of an affidavit) may NOT prohibit the disclosure of information about the SW. We know that the affidavits in the MB case have not been sealed - they've just been withheld from release which isn't the same thing (no judge's order). But if 18.011(d)(1) applies to a sealed affidavit, it must apply to an unsealed affidavit as well.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.18.htm
http://law.onecle.com/texas/criminal-procedure/18.011.html

[sbm]We know of the previous search warrants because MPD made us aware of them. But if they chose not to tell the public or the news media that they had gotten additional SWs, then there's the possibility that no one has gone looking yet.

Thanks. Your added explanation here is right on the mark, legally.

 

[liz b.]

No new leads
Anyone think LE is any closer to an arrest?

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Not at this time. Case is layered. Complicated. jmo

 

[11frogs]

Is it just me, or for some of the rest of you, is it not mind-blowingly-bizarre how MB's mother-in-law has somehow become a target for suspicion, over the course of a number of pages here?

Not on my radar.

 

[erinp]

Respectfully BBM, I have seen this posted multiple times here at WS, but nothing in the MSM or on her FB from time I started following this case that said she was moving from Creekside. Do you have a like or know where it was said? Thanks (just asking not meaning to be snarky sounding)

I have also seen that mentioned quite a few times. I did see a screenshot of a facebook post which said the 9am CG midlothian class was moving, but never saw one about the Creekside camp moving.

Having said that, I just went to the camp gladiator webpage to look up current location of their camps in Midlothian. It appears they are no longer running one at Creekside Church of Christ, or if they are I can find no evidence of it. For what it's worth, I wouldn't blame the church or CG for wanting it moved away.

http://ttdfw.campgladiator.com/locations/

 

[arkansasmimi]

Is it just me, or for some of the rest of you, is it not mind-blowingly-bizarre how MB's mother-in-law has somehow become a target for suspicion, over the course of a number of pages here?

Respectfully, I have not seen anyone accusing MT as being the Suspect. I have seen links to the comments posted. Per Rules we are allowed JMHO http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-27&p=12617519#post12617519

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*Please no personal chatter back and forth. Welcoming someone back or making jokes at other member’s expense is not going to be allowed. The case is about Missy Bevers. Please do not make the thread about you.

* YOU CAN SPECULATE ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE SEARCH WARRANTS AS LONG AS YOU USE THEIR INITIALS ONLY. This overrides an earlier decision I made. My apologies for the confusion. It is 100 percent my fault.

*if you do speculate please do not make comments on their personal appearance. That’s just rude. You can speculate on their behavior but if you want to post something unkind about their looks please don’t.

*Speculation is allowed if it involves someone who has been named in the mainstream media and you can logically put this person at the scene of the crime or can suggest they were somehow involved. Speculation has to be based on some semblance of fact. In other words, you can’t speculate that the dry cleaning people killed Missy. The police have confirmed they believe Missy was targeted. That’s a good place to start.

 

[janesmith787]

Thanks for posting. If you google some CG reviews online, you will notice there were quite some unhappy campers out there criticizing CG customer service and cancellation policy.
Perhaps an additional angle, if one is inclined to believe so.

-Nin

Its not not hard to cancel CG...you commit to either 6/12 months and once you fulfill it, you can cancel...kinda like your cable contract. I've done CG for 3 years and recently cancelled.

 

[observation]

Ah, I see what you mean. I guess I wasn't familiar with the term "crock pot meals" being used to be sort of on a par with "latch key kids" or something like that.

I was not a latch key kid and my mother made dinner for us every night and was a stay at home mom until we were older and went back to accounting. My mom used a "pressure" cooker at times to cook stew and soups. Should we be mad at her? I think not. Latch key kids have working parents so take out dinners or make yourself a sandwich may be more appropriate.


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[WannaBDetective]

Is it just me, or for some of the rest of you, is it not mind-blowingly-bizarre how MB's mother-in-law has somehow become a target for suspicion, over the course of a number of pages here?

I'd think a statistician or profiler would put her involvement at about as close to 0% as you could go.

I've personally learned (or reinforced) a couple things. 1. The mind has a momentum of it's own and can easily read in things that probably aren't there. 2. If you're ever in that situation, keep your mouth shut. Almost never does your talking make you look more innocent and usually, you look guiltier.

I've helped on a few cases within our company of fraud and management sexual misconduct (for lack of a better term). We aren't a big enough company to have a team of experts in those fields, so they send me along for a second witness to the "expert". And here's what I've discovered. Deny everything. Everything. Even if the "gun" is right there. Someone took my gun! DON'T try justify or minimize. That'll get you every time. Just deny that you did anything. You have no idea what they are talking about! If the perp is decently wily, that often can throw the investigation off enough to create doubt and confusion. It forces the accuser to have a level of evidence he/she probably does not have. Sounds dumb, but I've seen it work enough times to give it some cred.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I have also seen that mentioned quite a few times. I did see a screenshot of a facebook post which said the 9am CG midlothian class was moving, but never saw one about the Creekside camp moving.

Having said that, I just went to the camp gladiator webpage to look up current location of their camps in Midlothian. It appears they are no longer running one at Creekside Church of Christ, or if they are I can find no evidence of it. For what it's worth, I wouldn't blame the church or CG for wanting it moved away.

http://ttdfw.campgladiator.com/locations/

Agree, saw that on MB page but nothing about that being last *advertiser censored* for the camp there at that location. Not sure if something grew legs or if it just something someone knows and no back up to it. I looked a while back and there is another one in Midlothian but as you stated not that location. I would be more shocked if the did than that they did not have one there any longer. I looked on the Main CG page for camps in that area. There was iirc a lady trainer, not sure if that one was already there prior or not. Been a bit since I looked at it.