TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

[1&2&3]

Jethro, thank you for a magnificent drawing! I know it took lots of time to do this, and it is really appreciated. :tyou:

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Jethro, thank you for a magnificent drawing! I know it took lots of time to do this, and it is really appreciated. :tyou:

It's fantastic!! Thank you

 

[Groundwork]

I would love to hear some different theories and motives... of course within the context of the TOS.

Soooo, I don't post much primarily because I never feel completely caught up on this case. If I don't check in multiple times per day, I am so far behind that I either read every other page or simply skip to the last page to see what everyone is talking about. I don't usually feel competent enough to comment.

That being said, I started out thinking the person I saw in the video was obviously a woman, then I saw a male relative on TV who seemed callous and unaffected and walked like the person on the tape, so I changed my mind. Then, however, I saw Batbrat's green man and realized sw, while certainly male, was too thin to be the man I thought. Then I followed some links shared on here and was swayed by the idea that sw stood like a gymnast or dancer or ballerina and discovered that the characteristics of one female listed on the sw really, really fit. But then, just tonight, I read what another poster shared about fbi statistics and 300 hours of study and 2 perps, and now I have no freakin' idea. Not that I ever did.

I do fear the case will not be resolved soon, and that makes my heart break for Missy's girls and her loved ones, and for the investigators, members of that church, and the community at large.

I really appreciate WS, and am seriously impressed by the posters who are contibuting so much on this thread. I wish I could have dinner with you all. What interesting conversations there would be : )

 

[roadrunnermt]

It has been said that her father passed away in the past year or two. I can't remember exactly. But her mother has moved into Missy's home to help with the girls. JMO

Is this verified anywhere? I thought it was stated to be rumor in the past but am not positive.

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[kmclaren]

Is this verified anywhere? I thought it was stated to be rumor in the past but am not positive.

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December 2014

http://www.cokerfuneral.com/obituaries/James-Strickland-6/#!/Obituary

 

[SuzDuJour]

'baby"?

The "baby" is a minor and therefore cannot be sleuthed ; )

 

[Ayashley]

December 2014

http://www.cokerfuneral.com/obituaries/James-Strickland-6/#!/Obituary

Picture from that quote(edited to blur the family out):


That's missy correct? That was posted 2 years ago, and probably even older than that, but she looks alot different.. I'm thinking she got into the fitness world quickly, could definitely see how some insecure men would find that offense, especially if they see her being less 'attentive' to her husband, JMO

 

[CorallaroC]

I do believe there is a door straight across from it that is recessed - probably a foot or so. There is also likely a door across from Room 10. What I find to be interesting about that particular snippet of video is what SP seems to be doing - at least in my opinion. Which is ...

Even though the door is straight across from the Room 12 door SP is standing off to the left. Also, instead of simply smashing the window of the door in it appears that what they did is hit the window hard enough to start it cracking but not hard enough to smash through it. Or, they struck the window where it meets the door itself - at an edge. The effect with those kinds of windows when struck like that with something hard like a hammer is that the window will start cracking and the cracks will race their way to the edges. If hit too hard the glass would fall down to either side of the door. But if you crack it and only push a small hole into it you can achieve something else ...

What we see SP doing is actually pulling the glass from that window into the East hall. In staging a scene this would create the impression that SP was inside the room opposite Room 12 and broke out rather than in. I suspect that this snippet of the video was meant as a message to SP that the police are aware of the staging. Oh, and about SP standing off to the left. I suspect that SP did that so small chunks of glass would not get into any of their gear/outfit that might fall out later somewhere else.

Of course, that is just my speculation.

Thank you for your post above, several worthwhile concepts for sleuthers to ponder. The "weak looking" hammer attempt looked to me as if perp wants to avoid glass shatter into their face. I still think this perp has prior injuries (such as leg/foot or hip injuries, eyesight problems, and perhaps balance issues. Some of the oddness in their mannerisms AND necessary movements seem to indicate that to me. But back to what you said in your post that caught my attn. -- YES, I believe the perp was clearly trying to avoid doing things that could injure their-SELF. Especially their eyes.

Pure speculation on my part, but that would indicate to me the perp is extra careful to prevent certain self-injuries for a big-selfish reason. Especially if their INTENT is to do harm to someone else (MB) JMO............

 

[Cannonball3804]

Cannonball, I just have to ask.... why are you so against accepting that MB's husband and / or in-laws could possibly be involved. If they are, they are. Why is it that you can't keep an open mind that it is a possibility ? I'm just curious. TIA

Neesaki,
When this case began, I initially believed it was a woman. I thought she killed MB because of either a real or perceived relationship between MB and this woman's significant other.

I looked at the family, and I just don't see anything there that leads me to think they're capable of planning and executing something like this. And nothing that has been presented on this board has swayed me toward them.

Over time, I moved away from the "cheated on" theory. The more I watched the video and BatBrat's excellent work to unveil the body beneath the suit, I began to see this as a young male. I don't really see it being a hired kill because it's hard to keep those under wraps for long. The Markel case is different - those people are extremely intelligent. But even they couldn't keep it a secret forever.

BB strikes me as peculiar and dopey, not someone who could hire this thing done. Same thing with KS, MT and RB. I think those people are more apt to have killed her in spur of the moment anger than to do what was done here.

MPD has gone thru everyone on the SW list which includes family and romantic interests and their spouses. So far, nothing.

So what I'm trying to do is go where I think the evidence is leading. To me it is compelling that silver sedans were spotted or outright involved in the MB and carjacking crimes. The fact that both crimes remain unsolved makes me think the perps were out of towners with no personal connection.

I do still have a plan B, though. I haven't ruled out the "thrill kill" scenario where someone doesn't know her personally but becomes aware of the opportunity to kill a woman who is in a remote location alone at a regular time.

But the movements in the church have never made sense to me as those of someone who knows they're going to have company. This person should have been a lot more hyped up, not nonchalant and wandering around.

I could turn out to be all wrong about this. I am influenced in my bias by the Levi King case, which occurred locally to me. We all thought it was a local killing and that we knew the person and motive. We were wrong - it ended up being a random act by an out of towner.

So maybe I'm being too careful to avoid making the same mistake. But I don't think so. And it should be said that LE seems to be coming back around to the untargeted theory as well, and they have a lot more information than we do.


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[DeDee]

I do believe there is a door straight across from it that is recessed - probably a foot or so. There is also likely a door across from Room 10. What I find to be interesting about that particular snippet of video is what SP seems to be doing - at least in my opinion. Which is ...

Even though the door is straight across from the Room 12 door SP is standing off to the left. Also, instead of simply smashing the window of the door in it appears that what they did is hit the window hard enough to start it cracking but not hard enough to smash through it. Or, they struck the window where it meets the door itself - at an edge. The effect with those kinds of windows when struck like that with something hard like a hammer is that the window will start cracking and the cracks will race their way to the edges. If hit too hard the glass would fall down to either side of the door. But if you crack it and only push a small hole into it you can achieve something else ...

What we see SP doing is actually pulling the glass from that window into the East hall. In staging a scene this would create the impression that SP was inside the room opposite Room 12 and broke out rather than in. I suspect that this snippet of the video was meant as a message to SP that the police are aware of the staging. Oh, and about SP standing off to the left. I suspect that SP did that so small chunks of glass would not get into any of their gear/outfit that might fall out later somewhere else.

Of course, that is just my speculation.

Respectfully and intentionally bolded by me for focus

This insightful information indicates someone who is thoroughly familiar with B&E [breaking and entering] techniques. It made my jaw drop to understand why we kept thinking the SP was a wimp at breaking glass when actually they are a wizard at this style of behavior. I am no longer so sure all that is involved with the B&E portion of the horrific crime against Missy could be performed by your everyday Joe or JoJo unless the SP conducted some mighty strong research, on breaking glass so it would fall inward, among much more intimate knowledge of CoC. After reading your explanation, my viewpoint on the SP has become as a pendulum.

Jethro, may I also take this moment to congratulate you on your awesome map making skills? I've always admired antique maps seen in museums. Your cartographer ability reminds me of one who is possibly an architect by profession. Kudos to you, Jethro. Please extend a robust thank you to your lovely wife for allowing the copious amount of time already spent on the project.

:blue: :grouphug:

 

[Cannonball3804]

Respectfully and intentionally bolded by me for focus

This insightful information indicates someone who is thoroughly familiar with B&E [breaking and entering] techniques. It made my jaw drop to understand why we kept thinking the SP was a wimp at breaking glass when actually they are a wizard at this style of behavior. I am no longer so sure all that is involved with the B&E portion of the horrific crime against Missy could be performed by your everyday Joe or JoJo unless the SP conducted some mighty strong research, on breaking glass so it would fall inward, among much more intimate knowledge of CoC. After reading your explanation, my viewpoint on the SP has become as a pendulum.

Jethro, may I also take this moment to congratulate you on your awesome map making skills? I've always admired antique maps seen in museums. Your cartographer ability reminds me of one who is possibly an architect by profession. Kudos to you, Jethro. Please extend a robust thank you to your lovely wife for allowing the copious amount of time already spent on the project.

:blue: :grouphug:

I also congratulate Jethro on the map. Untold hours went into that, and it's impressive.

But I don't agree at all that this perp is a wizard at breaking glass! Nor do I believe that he could intentionally hit glass with just enough strength to crack it without breaking it out.

Everything about the video says to me that this person lacked confidence or experience in what he was doing. His movements are not purposeful. And with all the detailed theory about what he's supposedly trying to do in the East hall, he and the window are not even fully in the frame of that video. How can anyone make an informed opinion about what he's doing when he's only partially in view?

 

[CHUCKJ]

<modsnip>

I'm with Canonball on this, all the way. I have seen, nor heard any evidence at all to suggest that either BB or RB are involved. That coupled with the verification of both of their alabi does not get me anywhere close to being involved. Ill leave it at that, as Cannonball has laid it out perfectly. If you have to stretch even the rumors and assumptions to get there, your probably headed in the wrong direction.

If you go back through all the threads, you see that he and I have differed on several opinions, but on this we agree.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Picture from that quote(edited to blur the family out):

That's missy correct? That was posted 2 years ago, and probably even older than that, but she looks alot different.. I'm thinking she got into the fitness world quickly, could definitely see how some insecure men would find that offense, especially if they see her being less 'attentive' to her husband, JMO

What is on MB's right arm, above the elbow, in that picture? I can't figure it out.

 

[neesaki]

Neesaki,
When this case began, I initially believed it was a woman. I thought she killed MB because of either a real or perceived relationship between MB and this woman's significant other.

I looked at the family, and I just don't see anything there that leads me to think they're capable of planning and executing something like this. And nothing that has been presented on this board has swayed me toward them.

Over time, I moved away from the "cheated on" theory. The more I watched the video and BatBrat's excellent work to unveil the body beneath the suit, I began to see this as a young male. I don't really see it being a hired kill because it's hard to keep those under wraps for long. The Markel case is different - those people are extremely intelligent. But even they couldn't keep it a secret forever.

BB strikes me as peculiar and dopey, not someone who could hire this thing done. Same thing with KS, MT and RB. I think those people are more apt to have killed her in spur of the moment anger than to do what was done here.

MPD has gone thru everyone on the SW list which includes family and romantic interests and their spouses. So far, nothing.

So what I'm trying to do is go where I think the evidence is leading. To me it is compelling that silver sedans were spotted or outright involved in the MB and carjacking crimes. The fact that both crimes remain unsolved makes me think the perps were out of towners with no personal connection.

I do still have a plan B, though. I haven't ruled out the "thrill kill" scenario where someone doesn't know her personally but becomes aware of the opportunity to kill a woman who is in a remote location alone at a regular time.

But the movements in the church have never made sense to me as those of someone who knows they're going to have company. This person should have been a lot more hyped up, not nonchalant and wandering around.

I could turn out to be all wrong about this. I am influenced in my bias by the Levi King case, which occurred locally to me. We all thought it was a local killing and that we knew the person and motive. We were wrong - it ended up being a random act by an out of towner.

So maybe I'm being too careful to avoid making the same mistake. But I don't think so. And it should be said that LE seems to be coming back around to the untargeted theory as well, and they have a lot more information than we do.


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I can see where you're coming from, I actually don't know what to believe myself. I can see it being either of the above scenarios, but also think it's possible that some relationship to Missy may have been involved in some way. Though we have so little to go on, I can't commit to any one theory. Thanks for your insight.

ETA: In the beginning I thought SP may have been there to vandalize the church, possibly commit arson or plant a bomb. I guess because we had a rash of church arsons around where I live a few years back. I still think it's a possibility until we hear new information that totally discounts it.

 

[CHUCKJ]

I believe that's where you have most WS members wrong. Most of us are not saying that BB is SP but we are speculating he is involved. There is enough evidence to make him a POI by LE. The main evidence is what LE has found and WS members have just found a few things that hopefully LE has checked out. I personally do not have a hostility towards men but in cases like this the spouse - be it woman or man - had something to do with it. That's just statistics. I have not been on here long but -except for a few things that WS members get hung up on - I think some of the things we find out are worth mentioning. Maybe LE does read this and maybe it sparks a curiosity for which if it helps to catch a murderer I am sure MB would be grateful. I don't see prejudices everyone has an idea and we like to share those ideas with others in the pursuit of justice. Wherever that road may lead.


not being snarky. JMO

I appreciate everyones opinion, but saying that most are not saying BB is a suspect, but possibly involved is like saying that the mailman may be involved. If I may, what are the few things that have been found. I have read, much wild speculation, and miscalculation about the speed of witch BB and fried drove back home, injection of absolute falsehoods about what time the boad was scheduled to leave vs did leave, weather delays, etc. All of witch is verafiable. Not trying to be rude. I really want to know if there has been anyting concrete that points to his involvement, Maybe I have missed somthing.

 

[neesaki]

What is on MB's right arm, above the elbow, in that picture? I can't figure it out.

That's MB ? She looks totally different to me.

 

[Camerabug]

I would love to hear some different theories and motives... of course within the context of the TOS.

random thoughts for conversation-all just my opinion. All input welcome

possible motives:

1) BB - a divorce could very well cause him to sell the family business or put it in financial jeopardy. Where did the money troubles the MPD alluded to stem from? MB was unfaithful (KS statement about 1-1/2 yrs ago) and it caused a lot of stress. Did BB find solace in another woman's arms? MPD stated there were infidelities

2) <modsnip>

3) <modsnip>

4) CT - whether the affair was actual or just rumor, it would be hard to hold her head up in public knowing "everybody" talked about it. Did she want to get back into shape or was AT's wandering eye putting pressure on an exhausted mother of 4? AT was excited to see her at the gym according to a Camp Gladiator post..was she doing it to 'get him back' from MB? Once a cheater, always a cheater...was she angry?

I learn towards a targeted hit..with money or infidelity being the reason

speculation limited to those indicated in SW and do not necessarily include all my POI

 

[CHUCKJ]

that's mb ? She looks totally different to me.

that is a water mark.across the picture it spells somthing, not sure, but a d e u ? S.

 

[GA_Peach]

I appreciate everyones opinion, but saying that most are not saying BB is a suspect, but possibly involved is like saying that the mailman may be involved. If I may, what are the few things that have been found. I have read, much wild speculation, and miscalculation about the speed of witch BB and fried drove back home, injection of absolute falsehoods about what time the boad was scheduled to leave vs did leave, weather delays, etc. All of witch is verafiable. Not trying to be rude. I really want to know if there has been anyting concrete that points to his involvement, Maybe I have missed somthing.

If this is the only data on which one is drawing a conclusion, I understand why one may be skeptical.

I thoroughly enjoy reading all of the theories. It challenges my assumptions and keeps me honest. In fact, there was something shared last week that allowed me to take one my theories off the table. Also, with so many possible theories still out there, members are likely sleuthing many different avenues. That gives me hope that the missing link(s) will be found. At the end of the day, it is not about having the "right" theory. It's about justice for Missy.

 

[Ayashley]

What is on MB's right arm, above the elbow, in that picture? I can't figure it out.

Oh boy do i feel silly, sitting here over analyzing it, Googling if she has a tattoo.. it's the watermark on the picture &#128529;