TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

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One of the things that I ran across that surprised me was that MB used to do something similar for the gym. She used to be "Miss Fit" doing bootcamp-type stuff for the gym, then she switched CG (though the reasons for that aren't clear):
https://www.facebook.com/Midlothian...7913629893922/900730153278929/?type=1&theater
I do think she was a financial threat to many people, like CG itself seems designed to cause problems by having a designated 'owner' for a location's revenue streams, which said title seems easily transferable where someone could lose their 'owner' title and feel wronged or they could not have received it but felt they should and if there's any poaching from non-CG as well, that goes into the mix.

She was quite clever in the play of words in her title - Miss Fit = misfit. Many people wanted her to do evening classes, but it seems her heart was in the early morning 5:00, 5:30 and 6:00 time frame. I wonder if MB thought of herself as maybe a little misfit or perhaps she say this as a way to target potential customers. Certainly could understand that train of thought. A little clumsy, awkward, not a fitness fanatic, rather read a book, etc. and here comes MB offering a chance to be with like-minded individuals is quite appealing. People I can work out with and not feel like I stick out like a sore thumb.

I am having a hard time understanding the CG concept and actually making a profit. It seems MB would have been just as successful in remaining a true independent contractor in the fitness world. In my opinion, if I am going to work so hard as to "bleed," I am going to "bleed" for myself and my family. There must be a lot of peer pressure in the fitness field and to always have the best new quick workout, etc.
 
Thanks. Iirc Did they also say that they could get height within an inch from the video reconstruction? Then after the video reconstruction they say the height is 5'2" - 5'7". Also, I recall a member doing an analysis to scale and always kept her findings around 5' 10", LE statement would be 3-8 inches shorter. Just following clues from here and there and for me I'm stuck on at least 2. I could be wrong but for now that's where I am.


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Yes, they had initially said 5'-7" to 5'-9", a three-inch range. Then after the reconstruction gave them a "better" idea, it somehow turned into a 6-inch range. Just another head-scratcher regarding LE's handling of the case.

But personally, I don't see a 5'-10" person, either. Admittedly I'm not a "professional amateur" like our member who came up with it, though.


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Yes, they had initially said 5'-7" to 5'-9", a three-inch range. Then after the reconstruction gave them a "better" idea, it somehow turned into a 6-inch range. Just another head-scratcher regarding LE's handling of the case.

But personally, I don't see a 5'-10" person, either. Admittedly I'm not a "professional amateur" like our member who came up with it, though.


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And now I'm remembering the statement by BB during one of his news interviews very early on that the perp appeared to be "about 6ft. tall". Also KS posted on SM that initially LE said 6ft and she stated that BB was 6'2". IMO


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Money is a very possible theory here but one I never previously considered before a few of you mentioned it. MB's murder just seems too brutal for money to be the motivation. I mean, I haven't a clue what kinds of money these trainers are making but it can't be hand over fist, can it? I've always assumed that jealousy or scorn was the most probable catalyst based on the method they used. Despite knowing more people kill over financial matters than any other motive, I'm so unconcerned with money and materialism (not because I have plenty of it but because I just don't care enough about it, personally) that it's so hard for me to wrap my head around the idea of someone killing another because of it. It surprises me how naive I can still be sometimes, especially when I think about how much time I spend on WS and the amount of knowledge I've learned.


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I'm trying to get my WS fill before the server goes down at 6.
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Money is a very possible theory here but one I never previously considered before a few of you mentioned it. MB's murder just seems too brutal for money to be the motivation. I mean, I haven't a clue what kinds of money these trainers are making but it can't be hand over fist, can it? I've always assumed that jealousy or scorn was the most probable catalyst based on the method they used. Despite knowing more people kill over financial matters than any other motive, I'm so unconcerned with money and materialism (not because I have plenty of it but because I just don't care enough about it, personally) that it's so hard for me to wrap my head around the idea of someone killing another because of it. It surprises me how naive I can still be sometimes, especially when I think about how much time I spend on WS and the amount of knowledge I've learned.


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After finding some super sized pix of SP side profile, my feelings go back to someone she knew.
I can't. Get. Over. How interviews said police are asking or waiting for BB to come forward with any knowledge.
That and alibi and the check ins on trip. Too many coinky dinks.

After religiously following sievers, vetrano snd marcotte here on WS, someone on these boards said
when police use statements in the negative, it's actually a very delicate topic...or something to that effect.
 
I'm trying to get my WS fill before the server goes down at 6.
:)

Money is a very possible theory here but one I never previously considered before a few of you mentioned it. MB's murder just seems too brutal for money to be the motivation. I mean, I haven't a clue what kinds of money these trainers are making but it can't be hand over fist, can it? I've always assumed that jealousy or scorn was the most probable catalyst based on the method they used. Despite knowing more people kill over financial matters than any other motive, I'm so unconcerned with money and materialism (not because I have plenty of it but because I just don't care enough about it, personally) that it's so hard for me to wrap my head around the idea of someone killing another because of it. It surprises me how naive I can still be sometimes, especially when I think about how much time I spend on WS and the amount of knowledge I've learned.


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Does anyone know Missy's height? If we consider motive of money AND jilted jealousy, what does that give us? How did LE know SP was light skinned?

A husband/wife team could have done this thinking about motives, trash collections we know of, as well as LE observing classes. AJT and CT fit several motive possibilities and would know the church and Missy's routine. AJT never shared anything about Missy's death to be such a close friend and in fact held a back to back class on that date.

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Does anyone know Missy's height? If we consider motive of money AND jilted jealousy, what does that give us? How did LE know SP was light skinned?

A husband/wife team could have done this thinking about motives, trash collections we know of, as well as LE observing classes. AJT and CT fit several motive possibilities and would know the church and Missy's routine. AJT never shared anything about Missy's death to be such a close friend and in fact held a back to back class on that date.

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Great questions! And I agree. I think MB was 5'3". Maybe I think too much.
 
After finding some super sized pix of SP side profile, my feelings go back to someone she knew.
I can't. Get. Over. How interviews said police are asking or waiting for BB to come forward with any knowledge.
That and alibi and the check ins on trip. Too many coinky dinks.

After religiously following sievers, vetrano snd marcotte here on WS, someone on these boards said
when police use statements in the negative, it's actually a very delicate topic...or something to that effect.

Can you post the super sized pics of profile that you mentioned?


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After finding some super sized pix of SP side profile, my feelings go back to someone she knew.
I can't. Get. Over. How interviews said police are asking or waiting for BB to come forward with any knowledge.
That and alibi and the check ins on trip. Too many coinky dinks.

After religiously following sievers, vetrano snd marcotte here on WS, someone on these boards said
when police use statements in the negative, it's actually a very delicate topic...or something to that effect.

Can you post a link to the interview where LE is asking BB to come forward w info? I don't recall that one. Thanks


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The height (a major physical distinctive) has puzzled us. All you said is correct. The graphics gal on this form (I think it was a she) actually was willing to push the height to near 6 feet. And relatively thin. Indicating a guy.

My interpretation is that between the helmet and shoes both being potentially stuffed, they gave that range to include actual regular height. Just looking at it, I think 5'5-ish.
 
Does anyone know Missy's height? If we consider motive of money AND jilted jealousy, what does that give us? How did LE know SP was light skinned?

A husband/wife team could have done this thinking about motives, trash collections we know of, as well as LE observing classes. AJT and CT fit several motive possibilities and would know the church and Missy's routine. AJT never shared anything about Missy's death to be such a close friend and in fact held a back to back class on that date.

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Missy was 5'3.

SP is light-skinned in the best close-up that we were able to hone in on (though not much skin is showing.)

Yes, there is double incentive there.
 
We are not privy to the unpublished rest of the video. There may be additional captures possibly showing more "skin".

-Nin
 
The height (a major physical distinctive) has puzzled us. All you said is correct. The graphics gal on this form (I think it was a she) actually was willing to push the height to near 6 feet. And relatively thin. Indicating a guy.

My interpretation is that between the helmet and shoes both being potentially stuffed, they gave that range to include actual regular height. Just looking at it, I think 5'5-ish.

I don't see how it's possible to stuff a helmet and shoes to the point that you gain even an inch in height.

Here's what I don't get. Look at the church video, the one that is 2:11 long. At around the 1:10 and 1:30 are good angles of the suspect standing straight up next to a door or wall, with a frame or other object visible for reference.

LE could literally dress someone up in tactical gear and stand them in the exact spot and pose and record it from the same camera, then overlay the two stills.

Without using the fancy software and measurements that they say they used, they could use this other method and within an hour have it nailed down within an inch.

It just doesn't add up that they have no suspects, no firm leads, have asked for the public's help identifying from the video, yet can do no better than a 6-inch height range.


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It just doesn't add up that they have no suspects, no firm leads, have asked for the public's help identifying from the video, yet can do no better than a 6-inch height range.
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Exactly! Not only just doesn't add up, it's infuriating.
 
I don't see how it's possible to stuff a helmet and shoes to the point that you gain even an inch in height.

Here's what I don't get. Look at the church video, the one that is 2:11 long. At around the 1:10 and 1:30 are good angles of the suspect standing straight up next to a door or wall, with a frame or other object visible for reference.

LE could literally dress someone up in tactical gear and stand them in the exact spot and pose and record it from the same camera, then overlay the two stills.

Without using the fancy software and measurements that they say they used, they could use this other method and within an hour have it nailed down within an inch.

It just doesn't add up that they have no suspects, no firm leads, have asked for the public's help identifying from the video, yet can do no better than a 6-inch height range.


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I completely agree and I believe LE is walking a fine line of not disclosing what they know and flat out being deceptive. I am expecting If and when an arrest is made they will craft statements to walk back some of their earlier comments. If it helps to catch a killer I'm all for it as frustrating as it is. JMOO


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Do you believe they have a suspect they are building a case on right now today? I don't see it. But I would love to be proven wrong. Please prove me wrong MPD!
 
Do you believe they have a suspect they are building a case on right now today? I don't see it. But I would love to be proven wrong. Please prove me wrong MPD!

Highly probable IMO


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I completely agree and I believe LE is walking a fine line of not disclosing what they know and flat out being deceptive. I am expecting If and when an arrest is made they will craft statements to walk back some of their earlier comments. If it helps to catch a killer I'm all for it as frustrating as it is. JMOO


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It's a common refrain - "they must know much more than they've disclosed... they're just putting the final pieces together, etc". And there can be validity to that especially early in an investigation. And six months is still kind of early, if you're taking the long view of things.

But the longer this goes on, the less validity that argument will have. Once we hit the one-year mark with no further public developments, the pressure will really be on LE to show more cards, if there are any to show. Lots of questions will demand better answers at that point:

Why so fuzzy on height?
Whatever happened with the Nissan?
What about releasing all the church video, and the 911 calls?

If they do have a strong POI, at some point they would leak something to point the public in that direction to increase pressure. But when they don't point us in a direction at all, they either have a really good idea who did it and just need some weeks or months to tie up loose ends, or else they truly don't have any idea.


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I just finished reading Memory Man, a novel by David Baldacci (published April, 2015). On page 35, a perp dressed in full camouflage shoots up a high school. I know it's fiction, and I don't mean to make light of Missy's terrible murder in any way, but there are some interesting similarities here. I thought a book report might help us think of new questions to ask about Missy's murder, so I wrote this one.

The story: Amos Decker is a former pro football player and retired police detective who works from his hotel room as a private investigator. Fifteen months ago, his wife, daughter, and brother-in-law were brutally murdered. The crime remains unsolved despite the perfect memory Decker was left with after a career-ending football injury 20 years earlier.
A man falsely confesses to killing Decker’s family, and at exactly the same time a mass shooting takes place at the local high school. Six students (all football players) a teacher (the assistant coach) and an administrator are killed; another teacher is critically injured. LE calls Decker in to help his former partner investigate the crime.

There is security video of a suspect walking the halls before the event. Exterior cameras were present but not functional.

>>>snips

“...it was a big guy in full camouflage gear. Face completely obstructed by a mask and a face shield.”
“Belts and suspenders,” commented Decker. “Methodical.”
“What else? Type of footwear?”
…”The video shot is from the waist up. No one we interviewed noticed his footwear. He was wearing gloves”…
“Concealment was important to him. He might have been afraid he would be recognized. You said big guy. How big?”
“Our video shot framed him with a poster hanging on the wall. We did some measurements. We’re looking at a guy at least six-two with very broad shoulders. Like yours. Strong. Definitely male. Over two hundred pounds.”
“So he walks all over the school and we only get one video shot of him?”
“Maybe he knew where the cameras were and avoided them. Maybe he’s been here before doing some recon for this massacre.”
“But in one instance he didn’t avoid the camera.”
“Why do you think? Inconsistency? Mistake?”
“Too early to tell, but if it was deliberate, we need to find out why.”

<<<snip

Fast forward to the end of the book: Camo-perp was a slender woman, five ten or eleven. She wore padding underneath the camo gear, and wedge-soled boots with three-inch heels (5'10" or 5'11" becomes 6'1" or 6'2"). She used a forgotten bomb shelter and tunnel to enter and exit the locked school unseen, and to navigate inside the school. (Is there a basement in the church? A sub-floor? A storm cellar?) She had stashed the camo-gear and weapons in the ceiling tiles of a storeroom (was the ceiling checked in the church kitchen?). Security video was used by LE to reconstruct the scene, but both the timeline and the suspect&#8217;s physical description were incorrect thanks to camo-perp&#8217;s pre-staging of cameras and valid but incorrect eyewitness reports..

Camo-perp murdered Decker&#8217;s family twenty years before the school shootings, and she kills several other people after that event. She utilizes several disguises &#8211;an old man with a dog, a waitress in a bar, a janitor. Nothing connects any of the murders to each other (except in camo-perp's mind), but she leaves clues for Decker until he understands them.

As a teenager with gender-identity issues, she had been gang-raped and beaten &#8211; by cops. She recovered from her injuries, but was left with perfect memory, just as Decker had been, and a hatred for LE. She met Decker at a memory rehab/research facility, where he decided to become LE.

Camo-perp did have an accomplice, a psychopath who ran a website &#8220;supporting&#8221; victims of police brutality and failed justice. He fished for, fostered and fanned camo-perp&#8217;s irrational need for revenge, and helped her commit her twenty-year long crime spree..

I've tried to report the major elements of the novel that are similar to Missy's murder, but it's a complicated, complex plot, and I probably didn't get them all.
Reading this novel really creeped me out. It's so like Missy's murder, it's uncanny.
What do ya'll think?
 
I don't see how it's possible to stuff a helmet and shoes to the point that you gain even an inch in height.

Here's what I don't get. Look at the church video, the one that is 2:11 long. At around the 1:10 and 1:30 are good angles of the suspect standing straight up next to a door or wall, with a frame or other object visible for reference.

LE could literally dress someone up in tactical gear and stand them in the exact spot and pose and record it from the same camera, then overlay the two stills.

Without using the fancy software and measurements that they say they used, they could use this other method and within an hour have it nailed down within an inch.

It just doesn't add up that they have no suspects, no firm leads, have asked for the public's help identifying from the video, yet can do no better than a 6-inch height range.


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Actually just with shoe lifts you can gain over an inch and wearing them for the first time can cause you to walk awkwardly, especially if you go for multiple inches in height:
http://www.esquire.com/style/mens-accessories/a22397/shoe-lifts-for-men-043013/
 
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