TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

[Deleted member 102539]

This probably was discussed in the older threads but I had a hard time keeping up with those. The escape route the killer(s) used is very perplexing. According to the timeline the getaway was most likely down to the wire. I have mainly considered the back wooded area and back parking lot as possibilities until recently. This photo is from an unrelated traffic accident at the hwy entrance to the COC. This shows the area across the hwy. I believe it has been referred to as an event venue located behind a long fence. It appears that the killer(s) would have had a paved path all the way from the church to that venue area and could have used the fence for cover. IMO



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If I remember well VB was at least an supporter/maybe an acquaintance of the owner of this event company across the street. Long time ago I thought a getaway driver might have parked there.

 

[Elley Mae]

It would seem that if the vehicle in the church lot and the vehicle in the sporting goods store lot are not close enough of a match for that to be said.



Police said they saw no interaction between Bevers and the suspect on camera. They say they may have captured the suspect's car on video but they do not have enough information to reveal any more details to the public.

'There’s one surveillance camera where you can see the car in the far corner of the frame, parked in the distance. You can't make out a plate, and we're not even comfortable releasing anything about a possible make or model,' Johnson said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...isly-early-morning-slaying-fitness-coach.html

"There’s one surveillance camera where you can see the car in the far corner of the frame, parked in the distance. You can't make out a plate, and we're not even comfortable releasing anything about a possible make or model,” Johnson said.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Po...idlothian-Murder-Investigation-376269831.html

 

[WannaBDetective]

Yes, someone could have parked in that driveway to avoid their vehicle being seen on church exterior cameras. Someone who had no qualms with murdering someone would have no qualms about jaywalking and that would fit the presumed escape path described by LE of the perp leaving by the kitchen area.

That is a possibility. I didn’t get out of my car there, but there didn’t seem to be anybreaches in the fence. But it does addthe possibility of more cameras (on that property). Considering how secure, they’ve made it,that is a real possibility. It doesseem to add a layer of risk and additional time.
That highway is generally pretty busy at all hours. Obviously more so during daytime hours, butwhen I’ve been on it, I don’t think a minute goes by without a car/trucktravelling past. I’ve been thru thereat midnight a few times (never at 4 oclock tho). He/she could hide in the bushes more, makingtheir way across the street. But therewould be a decent chance of having to wait for traffic each way or being. seen. There is a hill and a bit of a curve inthere also.
A person running around in a SWAT uniform would obviouslydraw more attention than a car pulling out of a parking lot. And you could potentially run into a campercoming in while you’re getting out. I’drather be in a car than running in a costume.
And there is potential for having blood platter on you,which you’d track (either way). Thereis a decent possibility LE knows how they got out of there.
I think this was very well planned and calculated, and theyseemed to have covered all their tracks. The safest, fastest, least risky route out seems to be to park the carout back behind the cement wall (the picture doesn’t really show that the backof the church is a few feet below grade.) Do the deed, hop down to your carand drive off.
When LE is considering hypnosis, I think they’re trying toget a potential inattentive witness to recall cars. Leaving the property , seenby a camper or maybe driving by. ORmaybe, as you postulated, they parked their car on the driveway across theroad, and they’re trying to be people to remember what kind of car was parkedthere.

 

[ezrah]

That is a possibility. I didn’t get out of my car there, but there didn’t seem to be anybreaches in the fence. But it does addthe possibility of more cameras (on that property). Considering how secure, they’ve made it,that is a real possibility. It doesseem to add a layer of risk and additional time.
That highway is generally pretty busy at all hours. Obviously more so during daytime hours, butwhen I’ve been on it, I don’t think a minute goes by without a car/trucktravelling past. I’ve been thru thereat midnight a few times (never at 4 oclock tho). He/she could hide in the bushes more, makingtheir way across the street. But therewould be a decent chance of having to wait for traffic each way or being. seen. There is a hill and a bit of a curve inthere also.
A person running around in a SWAT uniform would obviouslydraw more attention than a car pulling out of a parking lot. And you could potentially run into a campercoming in while you’re getting out. I’drather be in a car than running in a costume.
And there is potential for having blood platter on you,which you’d track (either way). Thereis a decent possibility LE knows how they got out of there.
I think this was very well planned and calculated, and theyseemed to have covered all their tracks. The safest, fastest, least risky route out seems to be to park the carout back behind the cement wall (the picture doesn’t really show that the backof the church is a few feet below grade.) Do the deed, hop down to your carand drive off.
When LE is considering hypnosis, I think they’re trying toget a potential inattentive witness to recall cars. Leaving the property , seenby a camper or maybe driving by. ORmaybe, as you postulated, they parked their car on the driveway across theroad, and they’re trying to be people to remember what kind of car was parkedthere.

All good points there. I'm thinking that SP at the very least put something over the costume. They possibly would take off the piece emblazoned "police" and stow it, or turn it inside out, but putting something over it would probably be faster and help to contain whatever was on it after committing a violent murder. My hypothesis always has a getaway driver/ lookout as an accessory. The perp(s) who murdered are picked up by a car driver waiting nearby. In that case the COC parking lot or the paved areas near the event venue would be feasible. My hypothetical lookout would be at a location with a view to be able to see MBs truck nearing the area at the hwy entrance.


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[WannaBDetective]

All good points there. I'm thinking that SP at the very least put something over the costume. They possibly would take off the piece emblazoned "police" and stow it, or turn it inside out, but putting something over it would probably be faster and help to contain whatever was on it after committing a violent murder. My hypothesis always has a getaway driver/ lookout as an accessory. The perp(s) who murdered are picked up by a car driver waiting nearby. In that case the COC parking lot or the paved areas near the event venue would be feasible. My hypothetical lookout would be at a location with a view to be able to see MBs truck nearing the area at the hwy entrance.


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I’mabout 50/50 that there was an accomplice or getaway driver somewhere around. And your theory of them watching theproperty is very feasible. Without one,the unfolding scene is a bit risky and potentially chaotic and they didn’t looklike they were taking any risks. Theyvery well may have helped SP get in, and then ditch out with him/her. Argument against an accomplice is that wenever see one or SP use any kind of communication devise. Obviously they didn’tcommunicate via cell technology. 2-wayradios? Not my field. Also, multiple people can add complexity and anotherkind of risk.

Anotherissue not discussed much is that this goes on from 3 to 5 in the morning(assuming a minimal commute). Does SPlive alone? Spouse on swing shift? Are they the accomplice? Are they covering? Counting on their roommates not waking somewherein there and noticing you gone is also quite high.

Oneof my initial thoughts was that SP put on a windbreaker or other type coveringwhile retreating. That to me is the easiestand safest way to cover up and contain any substance transfer. Not everyone agreed. They had some good counterpoints but I stillthink SP covered getting out of there.

Thatarea is not THAT remote. There has to bea camera somewhere that caught a shot of the vehicle (either coming in or goingout of the area).

AndI was thinking tonight. This, most of usthink, is not a random crime. And MB wassuper social, super verbal. There isn’ta introverted bone in her body. If shewas in conflict with someone. That’s writtensomewhere or told to someone. Is thehold up, that there were multiple conflicts and that they can’t identify whichone?

 

[WannaBDetective]

All good points there. I'm thinking that SP at the very least put something over the costume. They possibly would take off the piece emblazoned "police" and stow it, or turn it inside out, but putting something over it would probably be faster and help to contain whatever was on it after committing a violent murder. My hypothesis always has a getaway driver/ lookout as an accessory. The perp(s) who murdered are picked up by a car driver waiting nearby. In that case the COC parking lot or the paved areas near the event venue would be feasible. My hypothetical lookout would be at a location with a view to be able to see MBs truck nearing the area at the hwy entrance.


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I’mabout 50/50 that there was an accomplice or getaway driver somewhere around. And your theory of them watching theproperty is very feasible. Without one,the unfolding scene is a bit risky and potentially chaotic and they didn’t looklike they were taking any risks. Theyvery well may have helped SP get in, and then ditch out with him/her. Argument against an accomplice is that wenever see one or SP use any kind of communication devise. Obviously they didn’tcommunicate via cell technology. 2-wayradios? Not my field. Also, multiple people can add complexity and anotherkind of risk.

Anotherissue not discussed much is that this goes on from 3 to 5 in the morning(assuming a minimal commute). Does SPlive alone? Spouse on swing shift? Are they the accomplice? Are they covering? Counting on their roommates not waking somewherein there and noticing you gone is also quite high.

Oneof my initial thoughts was that SP put on a windbreaker or other type coveringwhile retreating. That to me is the easiestand safest way to cover up and contain any substance transfer. Not everyone agreed. They had some good counterpoints but I stillthink SP covered getting out of there.

Thatarea is not THAT remote. There has to bea camera somewhere that caught a shot of the vehicle (either coming in or goingout of the area).

AndI was thinking tonight. This, most of usthink, is not a random crime. And MB wassuper social, super verbal. There isn’ta introverted bone in her body. If shewas in conflict with someone. That’s writtensomewhere or told to someone. Is thehold up, that there were multiple conflicts and that they can’t identify whichone?

 

[ezrah]

I’mabout 50/50 that there was an accomplice or getaway driver somewhere around. And your theory of them watching theproperty is very feasible. Without one,the unfolding scene is a bit risky and potentially chaotic and they didn’t looklike they were taking any risks. Theyvery well may have helped SP get in, and then ditch out with him/her. Argument against an accomplice is that wenever see one or SP use any kind of communication devise. Obviously they didn’tcommunicate via cell technology. 2-wayradios? Not my field. Also, multiple people can add complexity and anotherkind of risk.

Anotherissue not discussed much is that this goes on from 3 to 5 in the morning(assuming a minimal commute). Does SPlive alone? Spouse on swing shift? Are they the accomplice? Are they covering? Counting on their roommates not waking somewherein there and noticing you gone is also quite high.

Oneof my initial thoughts was that SP put on a windbreaker or other type coveringwhile retreating. That to me is the easiestand safest way to cover up and contain any substance transfer. Not everyone agreed. They had some good counterpoints but I stillthink SP covered getting out of there.

Thatarea is not THAT remote. There has to bea camera somewhere that caught a shot of the vehicle (either coming in or goingout of the area).

AndI was thinking tonight. This, most of usthink, is not a random crime. And MB wassuper social, super verbal. There isn’ta introverted bone in her body. If shewas in conflict with someone. That’s writtensomewhere or told to someone. Is thehold up, that there were multiple conflicts and that they can’t identify whichone?

My theory is that 2 SP in the church and a possible driver. I'm basing that on difference in footwear and body size (and I am considering the fish eye camera lens) I've been thinking 2 since early on and can't get past that. I agree that the murder was well planned and calculated. They probably would have wanted to know about MBs arrival about to happen and also would want to know that her child wasn't with her. There was apparently a child who helped her w CG classes sometimes. I have viewed YouTube videos from SWFA store cameras and they do show traffic on the hwy but all vids I've seen are in the daylight hours. I agree that multiple accomplices creates more risk keeping the murder secreted but possibly less risk carrying out the murder. I feel that the murder was personal and the killer is probably a very domineering individual. If a very passive person(s) is closely entwined with the dominant person then that could create this possible murderous " team". As far as communication between perp(s) I've had to remind myself that we have only been privy to a small sampling of the video and therefore there is most likely much more going on in that church that we have not seen. If there are more than one perp they surely would need to communicate some way. I agree that MB herself probably provided LE with many clues through the recollections of her friends. All of this just JMOO


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[cady]

Maybe the SP is the one who disabled the outside cameras. And maybe they intended to disable inside also, hence all the looking around.

I seem to recall that LE stated that NONE of the cameras had been tampered with. ???JMO

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

I get what Ezrah is saying, and theoretically it's a possible scenario to consider. But that highway is heavily traveled with trucks, especially at night. I don't know if the house or office or whatever is there on the event venue has a night person on duty or dogs or what have you. I've used that driveway to pull in to use my phone. It's clearly parked private property and has an occupied air about it. If you park in somebody's driveway in the middle of the night you can expect either a homeowner with a gun to greet you or the cops to pull up behind you. Parking across this busy highway on private property would be just crazy. Especially since they would have to walk across the parking lot and the only entrance, where campers are due to be arriving.

 

[Cannonball3804]

My theory is that 2 SP in the church and a possible driver. I'm basing that on difference in footwear and body size (and I am considering the fish eye camera lens) I've been thinking 2 since early on and can't get past that. I agree that the murder was well planned and calculated. They probably would have wanted to know about MBs arrival about to happen and also would want to know that her child wasn't with her. There was apparently a child who helped her w CG classes sometimes. I have viewed YouTube videos from SWFA store cameras and they do show traffic on the hwy but all vids I've seen are in the daylight hours. I agree that multiple accomplices creates more risk keeping the murder secreted but possibly less risk carrying out the murder. I feel that the murder was personal and the killer is probably a very domineering individual. If a very passive person(s) is closely entwined with the dominant person then that could create this possible murderous " team". As far as communication between perp(s) I've had to remind myself that we have only been privy to a small sampling of the video and therefore there is most likely much more going on...(snip)

The problem with the theory about 2 perps is this: LE has said from the beginning that this is one perp on the video, not two different ones. And they said that the rest of the video (unreleased) shows the perp behaving in a similar manner to that of the released video.

So if there is a second perp, he or she would have had to remain outside.


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[ezrah]

The problem with the theory about 2 perps is this: LE has said from the beginning that this is one perp on the video, not two different ones. And they said that the rest of the video (unreleased) shows the perp behaving in a similar manner to that of the released video.

So if there is a second perp, he or she would have had to remain outside.


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Do you have a link to where LE is stating there's only one? I think that their words have always been carefully crafted and they will state something and then give themselves some wiggle room IMOOThanks


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[Bootsctr]

I totally agree with LE "crafting" their words carefully. They are not going to put out anything more than they absolutely have to.

Who benefitted the most from MB's death? I do not believe it was the family.

 

[ezrah]

I get what Ezrah is saying, and theoretically it's a possible scenario to consider. But that highway is heavily traveled with trucks, especially at night. I don't know if the house or office or whatever is there on the event venue has a night person on duty or dogs or what have you. I've used that driveway to pull in to use my phone. It's clearly parked private property and has an occupied air about it. If you park in somebody's driveway in the middle of the night you can expect either a homeowner with a gun to greet you or the cops to pull up behind you. Parking across this busy highway on private property would be just crazy. Especially since they would have to walk across the parking lot and the only entrance, where campers are due to be arriving.

Great post! Your comments help a non local get a feel for what that area is like. The escape route is a part of this case that bugs me. When I put myself in the perps position I would hate that the COC has only one entrance/exit. Then I have to consider the bogged ground from the days of rain. I don't see perp(s) slogging around in the mud so that leads me to be looking for pavement, gravel etc...As I mentioned before I had focused on the back woods of COC and parking lot until I took a closer look at that venue area. It appears to be a bad choice lol. It looks like Im left with the theory that another member mentioned which is the COC parking lot and driving out the one entrance/exit onto a hwy that is said to be busy all hours of the day and night. In that case the escape probably was witnessed by someone on the hwy or the early CG arrival. JMOO


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[SpanishInquisition]

I totally agree with LE "crafting" their words carefully. They are not going to put out anything more than they absolutely have to.

Who benefitted the most from MB's death? I do not believe it was the family.

One of the things that I ran across that surprised me was that MB used to do something similar for the gym. She used to be "Miss Fit" doing bootcamp-type stuff for the gym, then she switched CG (though the reasons for that aren't clear):
https://www.facebook.com/Midlothian...7913629893922/900730153278929/?type=1&theater
I do think she was a financial threat to many people, like CG itself seems designed to cause problems by having a designated 'owner' for a location's revenue streams, which said title seems easily transferable where someone could lose their 'owner' title and feel wronged or they could not have received it but felt they should and if there's any poaching from non-CG as well, that goes into the mix.

 

[ezrah]

I totally agree with LE "crafting" their words carefully. They are not going to put out anything more than they absolutely have to.

Who benefitted the most from MB's death? I do not believe it was the family.

By "benefiting" would you mean in a monetary sense or relationship sense?


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[Cannonball3804]

Do you have a link to where LE is stating there's only one? I think that their words have always been carefully crafted and they will state something and then give themselves some wiggle room IMOOThanks


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Too difficult to link from my phone, but if you look in the media timeline thread for this case, you'll find: (1) in probable cause affidavits for search warrants, they exclusively refer to "a suspect" or "the suspect"; (2) in the video reconstruction where they established the perp's height range, they again refer to the person in the singular. In seeking out the public's help in identification, it would be illogical for them to believe there are actually two people but not tell us that; and (3) in the 5/20 presser, Johnson is asked if it is possible that there is more than one person involved - he says hey can't rule it out but that "obviously we see one person" on the video.


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[tbs]

Great post! Your comments help a non local get a feel for what that area is like. The escape route is a part of this case that bugs me. When I put myself in the perps position I would hate that the COC has only one entrance/exit. Then I have to consider the bogged ground from the days of rain. I don't see perp(s) slogging around in the mud so that leads me to be looking for pavement, gravel etc...As I mentioned before I had focused on the back woods of COC and parking lot until I took a closer look at that venue area. It appears to be a bad choice lol. It looks like Im left with the theory that another member mentioned which is the COC parking lot and driving out the one entrance/exit onto a hwy that is said to be busy all hours of the day and night. In that case the escape probably was witnessed by someone on the hwy or the early CG arrival. JMOO


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I completely agree with this. The SP had to be seen leaving. When I look at the photo of the church and the entrance there is only one way in and out via a car, so someone had to see something and might not have thought much about it. While the CGs started to arrive the car would have been noticed leaving in a hurry or leaving the parking lot at all there is no way to hide a car while driving in it. Sorry if I am rambling this is my first time posting on this but I have been following it for a while and I am hoping for that big break so all the little pieces come together and start to make sense.

 

[Bootsctr]

By "benefiting" would you mean in a monetary sense or relationship sense?


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Money. Just my opinion.

 

[ezrah]

Too difficult to link from my phone, but if you look in the media timeline thread for this case, you'll find: (1) in probable cause affidavits for search warrants, they exclusively refer to "a suspect" or "the suspect"; (2) in the video reconstruction where they established the perp's height range, they again refer to the person in the singular. In seeking out the public's help in identification, it would be illogical for them to believe there are actually two people but not tell us that; and (3) in the 5/20 presser, Johnson is asked if it is possible that there is more than one person involved - he says hey can't rule it out but that "obviously we see one person" on the video.


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Thanks. Iirc Did they also say that they could get height within an inch from the video reconstruction? Then after the video reconstruction they say the height is 5'2" - 5'7". Also, I recall a member doing an analysis to scale and always kept her findings around 5' 10", LE statement would be 3-8 inches shorter. Just following clues from here and there and for me I'm stuck on at least 2. I could be wrong but for now that's where I am.


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