UK - 4 children died in house fire, 27YO woman arrested, Sutton, 16 Dec 2021

[Teeniesmum]

Link to the Daily Mail today, Mother appeared again at the old Bailey in London today, in short plea hearing scheduled 8th March with provisional trial date September 2nd. Mother, accused of killing her two sets of twin sons will stand trial

 

[bobbymkii]

Mother denies manslaughter of four sons in south London house fire

Deveca Rose is accused of killing her four sons who were all fatally injured in a blaze in Sutton

www.standard.co.uk

 

[rockthecasbah]

Wonder what the child cruelty charge is about

 

[bobbymkii]

"At the Old Bailey on Monday, Rose sat in the well of the court to enter her pleas."

Strange. She wasn't in the dock but has clearly been deemed fit to enter pleas?

Mother denies manslaughter of four sons in south London house fire

Deveca Rose is accused of killing her four sons who were all fatally injured in a blaze in Sutton

www.standard.co.uk

 

[bobbymkii]

Wonder what the child cruelty charge is about

According to the article, it applies to all 4 boys. My best guess would be that it is similar to the child cruelty charge against Constance Marten and Mark Gordon in that the Crown have to prove child cruelty before the jury can consider manslaughter.

 

[rockthecasbah]

"At the Old Bailey on Monday, Rose sat in the well of the court to enter her pleas."

Strange. She wasn't in the dock but has clearly been deemed fit to enter pleas?

Mother denies manslaughter of four sons in south London house fire

Deveca Rose is accused of killing her four sons who were all fatally injured in a blaze in Sutton

www.standard.co.uk

What does well of the court mean?

 

[bobbymkii]

What does well of the court mean?

similar to the public gallery. but usually reserved specifically for family members as opposed to the general public.

 

[Teeniesmum]

Wonder what the child cruelty charge is about

Perhaps it is because she left them alone? If she was in the house they would have stood a chance, bless their precious little hearts.

 

[bobbymkii]

I've just looked back to the start of this thread and realised that this happened in December 2021. That's a heck of a long time ago for us to only now be getting pleas entered in a criminal complaint that involves the deaths of 4 infant children!

 

[rockthecasbah]

I've just looked back to the start of this thread and realised that this happened in December 2021. That's a heck of a long time ago for us to only now be getting pleas entered in a criminal complaint that involves the deaths of 4 infant children!

I wonder if she was having some sort of mental health treatment until now

IMO

 

[Mrs Marple]

Anyone know when the trial will begin?

 

[bobbymkii]

DBM

 

[Skigh]

They've still got multiple suspects bailed while further investigation takes place and of course there is the suspect who is still in a coma. Once they make charging decisions on those suspects and get pleas then the Crown can consider setting a trial date. It could be a long time yet before this goes to trial. My best (IANAL) guess would be next summer at the earliest.

JMO

I think you are muddling cases!! This is about the four boys in Sutton. Their mother is the alleged culprit.

 

[bobbymkii]

I think you are muddling cases!! This is about the four boys in Sutton. Their mother is the alleged culprit.

* Embarrassed face! *

 

[bobbymkii]

BBM

The trial at the same court, which was put back a week to September 9, is due to take up to three weeks.

Mum denies manslaughter of four children who died in London house fire

Leyton, Logan, Kyson and Bryson Hoath were pulled from the 'intense blaze' by firefighters but could not be saved.

metro.co.uk

 

[Tortoise]

Anyone know when the trial will begin?

This article says September 9th

Mother denies manslaughter of four sons in south London house fire