UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #2

[Bampot]

I was digging around trying to find clarification about this key in the door.

Alesha MacPhail: Gran 'forgot to take key out of door' on night of alleged murder

This article says the granny,Angela King, left the key in the OUTSIDE of the door after taking in laundry...

 

[charlotte123456]

I was digging around trying to find clarification about this key in the door.

Alesha MacPhail: Gran 'forgot to take key out of door' on night of alleged murder

This article says the granny,Angela King, left the key in the OUTSIDE of the door after taking in laundry...

Wow! If this is true, it would have been like an open invitation!

 

[SJ16321]

I was digging around trying to find clarification about this key in the door.

Alesha MacPhail: Gran 'forgot to take key out of door' on night of alleged murder

This article says the granny,Angela King, left the key in the OUTSIDE of the door after taking in laundry...

Poor woman, I hope she doesn't blame herself. She must have had the "if only I hadn't left the key" thought over and over.

 

[charlotte123456]

Poor woman, I hope she doesn't blame herself. She must have had the "if only I hadn't left the key" thought over and over.

Easily done as well, I have done it myself.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[angeldust]

I would estimate a distance of between two-thirds and three quarters of a mile between the house of the accused and the site where the child's body was found

 

[Taskforce88]

I was digging around trying to find clarification about this key in the door.

Alesha MacPhail: Gran 'forgot to take key out of door' on night of alleged murder

This article says the granny,Angela King, left the key in the OUTSIDE of the door after taking in laundry...

So that might indicate this was a crime of opportunity? If the key wasn't in the lock how was he planning on getting in?

This says to me that the door was usually locked, which would be sensible if you have a young child staying.

 

[Taskforce88]

I believe the two houses up Gortans Road are not derelict

 

[angeldust]

I believe the two houses up Gortans Road are not derelict

I know their are occupied houses and the big one R House but their are two very near site is it these your referring to ? If so I wonder if they heard or saw anything I’m sure he could easily pass them in the trees Sorry
For all questions I just want to make sure we’re talking about the same houses/buildings

 

[Taskforce88]

I know their are occupied houses and the big one R House but their are two very near site is it these your referring to ? If so I wonder if they heard or saw anything I’m sure he could easily pass them in the trees Sorry
For all questions I just want to make sure we’re talking about the same houses/buildings

Yep, the ones of the road leading to the old hydro hotel site. Near the scene.

 

[truthseeker1975]

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The accused mother and sister should be treated like victims in this case, because they are, just like Alesha,s family, yet they have had to move away and hide

Like someone else said, we have to remember this is the worst crime in modern history for Scotland

 

[truthseeker1975]

Someone mentioned this parkour and the possibility he climbed the house and into a window. And then the key is in the door so he was able to get out with alesha. That makes some sense to me.

Is the door with the key in it on the ground floor at the bottom of the staircase? Or is the door with the key in at the top of the staircase?

Its 3 flats ground floor flat middle floor flat attic floor flat, the door at the bottom would always be open

 

[truthseeker1975]

I believe the two houses up Gortans Road are not derelict

I dont think they are, when yo

It's the kind of place where someone is always twitching their curtains, so I'm shocked no one at all saw him and it was only cctv footage that caught his movements.

That must be why he took her straight to the beach

 

[angeldust]

So the house alesha was in is it two flats upstairs does the son rent the flat next door to the dad. I cannot for the life of me understand how she was in her room as was dad and grandad but it’s only a two bed flat. ?

 

[Kikixxxx]

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The accused mother and sister should be treated like victims in this case, because they are, just like Alesha,s family, yet they have had to move away and hide

Like someone else said, we have to remember this is the worst crime in modern history for Scotland

Do we know for deffinite his mum and sister have had to move? Yeah I agree. They are victims and his mum did 100% the right thing and reported the cctv to the police. It must of been hard for her to do but I’m glad she did. I do feel very sorry for his mum. The way she comes across in court. How awful must it feel knowing you gave birth to a monster who could do that to a child. The locals should not be punishing her and caused her to move from her house because he is the one responsible...

 

[truthseeker1975]

Added my comments underneath yours in pink

Guilty as Charged, sentence next, from back to the future, theres no way he will get off with this, you have to say good police work, good Scottish court system, although that shall be judged by the people once he has been convicted and his sentence has been passed

 

[Greyhome]

Yes the mum and sister are not on the island.

 

[bronzepurple]

Do we know for deffinite his mum and sister have had to move? Yeah I agree. They are victims and his mum did 100% the right thing and reported the cctv to the police. It must of been hard for her to do but I’m glad she did. I do feel very sorry for his mum. The way she comes across in court. How awful must it feel knowing you gave birth to a monster who could do that to a child. The locals should not be punishing her and caused her to move from her house because he is the one responsible...

As far as I know the locals are not punishing the mother and sister. I live here and so far I have only heard nice things said since about the family (excluding the accused), so I don't think any of the locals have caused them to move out (if they have moved- I don't know if they are still here or not). If they have left it will be because it would have felt very difficult for them to go out and about and face everyone knowing what has happened. A very uncomfortable situation for them to deal with.