My husband served on the jury for a murder trial, the victim is an adult, but he is still troubled by having seen her bloody blouse full of knife holes. Ugh.
I can imagine.
My husband served on the jury for a murder trial, the victim is an adult, but he is still troubled by having seen her bloody blouse full of knife holes. Ugh.
I have to hold my hands up and say I wasn't convinced. I believed that the tangled web of family ties held some other explanation ie he wasn't alone in this. I also was beginning to think his defence was so pathetic, he had to be covering/telling lies to protect someone else. However, after what we didn't know that has come out today, I am in no doubt I was wrong. I just honestly did not think there was enough concrete evidence to convict him unanimously. The jury, I have every admiration for, they heard and saw the most harrowing evidence and images which will haunt them for some time. As for CJ and PJ, especially CJ, the dignity she has shown right through this is just unbelievable. Hard enough to lose a child, never mind in such horrific circumstances but I also know as a mum, the hardest is not knowing and no body to bury. Aside from memories all they have is a couple of charred bones to rest her. So tragically heartbreaking.
His exes must be feeling sick and I pity his kids
However, after what we didn't know that has come out today, I am in no doubt I was wrong.
I've been reading but not posted here since November or so. I think I said then I love your username George.I'm not sure but I think the judge can instruct them to retire again to consider the evidence and if it is still hung order a retrial.
We don't have Not Proven in the UK like in French courts.
I was not convinced with the evidence on a number of accounts especially Sue Black the bone fragments expert sayng it was unsafe to say they were human....and comparing the pros case with what Bridger had said on most occasions, some of what he said was totally ridiculous though, and also alot of people sayng he was a nice community guy, albeit telling tales about his past, No sexual crimonal past, but I became convinced today with some reports he had images of young girls being sadistically abused and that recorded horror movie....Innocent before proven guilty, I still dont believe he was proven guilty beynd a doubt, though even though he most probably was, comes a time I guess juries have to balance the evidence and their common sense
His exes must be feeling sick and I pity his kids
Sue Black was hired by the defence to try and throw doubt on the prosecutions' experts findings. She failed to do that, as she conceded in her last statement that at least one fragment was compatible with human bone. Bridger is an accomplished liar, a pathological liar. You saw/heard for yourself how he contradicted his own statements in relation to what the prosecution confronted him with. Then basically branded his team liars when his Defence Case was re-read and he said they had it wrong. You see the common denominator there?
From the beginning when you didn't believe he was responsible at all, to conceding along the way he 'must' have done this or that, to now still believing it wasn't proven beyond reasonable doubt, really? I'm seriously curious as to what it is about him that had you 'fighting his corner' for some time?
The jury did use their common sense thank God. I think a lot of people look for, and expect, a massive BOOM re forensic evidence these days. I also believe people get frustrated when a murderer doesn't come out with something along the lines of a full blown confession. To tell the truth is to condemn themselves, why don't people get that?
I was not the least surprised when the jury came back quickly with their decision, it was a no-brainer imo. May he rot by whatever means.
I know a few others admit they got it wrong, we're only human after all. But I struggle to see it, and that's why i'm genuinely curious.
May April's parents find some kind of peace, though they face an extremely diffficult life ahead of them by not having her with them, and not even getting the chance to say a proper goodbye to her. Poor little April.:heartbeat:
Ps, the Priest would not be called by the Prosecution as it would be hearsay, without any corroboration, ie tape, other witnesses, etc.
Nick Martin @NickMartinSKYBreaking news:
Mark Bridger will spend the rest of his life in prison after being handed a 'whole life order'.
I wonder now why MB did sort of half confess? What was the purpose of that? He cleaned his home, maybe the car, got rid of April - did he believe "they will get me anyway, I better prepare a story right away"? Like ScotAng says "To tell the truth is to condemn themselves", so why did he blurt out that he was responsible for April's death? Why not wait and see what they can prove, if anything. It could have been that they would not have been able to prove anything. Did he want to be locked up?
Broken human being.
I've been reading but not posted here since November or so. I think I said then I love your username George.
We do have Not Proven in Scotland unfortunately, the most frustrating, cop-out plea imaginable. Thankfully, a jury with common sense, though I didn't doubt this would the conclusion.
Sue Black was hired by the defence to try and throw doubt on the prosecutions' experts findings. She failed to do that, as she conceded in her last statement that at least one fragment was compatible with human bone. Bridger is an accomplished liar, a pathological liar. You saw/heard for yourself how he contradicted his own statements in relation to what the prosecution confronted him with. Then basically branded his team liars when his Defence Case was re-read and he said they had it wrong. You see the common denominator there?
From the beginning when you didn't believe he was responsible at all, to conceding along the way he 'must' have done this or that, to now still believing it wasn't proven beyond reasonable doubt, really? I'm seriously curious as to what it is about him that had you 'fighting his corner' for some time?
The jury did use their common sense thank God. I think a lot of people look for, and expect, a massive BOOM re forensic evidence these days. I also believe people get frustrated when a murderer doesn't come out with something along the lines of a full blown confession. To tell the truth is to condemn themselves, why don't people get that?
I was not the least surprised when the jury came back quickly with their decision, it was a no-brainer imo. May he rot by whatever means.
I know a few others admit they got it wrong, we're only human after all. But I struggle to see it, and that's why i'm genuinely curious.
May April's parents find some kind of peace, though they face an extremely diffficult life ahead of them by not having her with them, and not even getting the chance to say a proper goodbye to her. Poor little April.:heartbeat:
Ps, the Priest would not be called by the Prosecution as it would be hearsay, without any corroboration, ie tape, other witnesses, etc.
IT WAS presumed innocent before proven guilty scot ang if thats ok with YOU
there was no evidence here that he murdered her, none at all
You're right, of course everyone has the right to be considered innocent 'till proven guilty.
That's exactly my point though, at the beginning, when everyone is speculating as that is all we can do, I was struck by how much you defended MB AFTER he was charged on those 3 counts.
I still maintain that the evidence reported in media accounts during the trial would not have been enough to eliminate all reasonable doubt from my mind as to Bridger's guilt on the specific charges against him.
I also think that if this case had been less emotionally charged and media-driven -- if, for example, Bridger had been on trial for murdering a runaway Bengali teenager with facial piercings, rather than a photogenic little white girl from a well-spoken family -- expressing such doubt would have been a lot more socially acceptable.