That's a very interesting reply.
People often just leave tools stuck in the soil or leaning against the shed, easy to take
“A bit traumatised”[…]
She said she had been "extremely tired" and had fallen asleep while she was in a tent hugging her baby - who was in her jacket.
"She wasn't moving when I woke up," she recalled.
During the police interview Ms Marten wept while describing the moment she realised their baby was not breathing.
She told officers the pair tried to resuscitate baby Victoria: "I tried to breathe in her mouth and pump her chest."
She said there was no response: "So I wrapped her in a scarf and cradled her for a few minutes. I didn't know what to do."
Asked by a detective whether they went to get help, Ms Marten replied: "No because she was definitely not alive.
"I mean she wasn't alive, so who's going to help?"
When asked how Mr Gordon felt after their baby had died, Ms Marten said: "Well, I'm not him so I can't tell you how he was feeling".
The detective then asked: "Well, what did he say to you?"
She replied: "Well, he was distraught of course".
"Tell me about that," asked the detective.
Ms Marten replied: "You'll have to ask him, I mean, that's his remit, isn't it?"
She told detectives the couple were "very distraught" and "a bit traumatised by the whole thing".
During the interview Ms Marten recalled seeing a copy of the Metro newspaper while they were waiting for a bus in Brighton some days afterwards.
"It just said, I think it was my father coming forward saying we really need to come forward with the baby".
Detectives also asked her how she was feeling following the birth of their daughter.
"I was feeling fine. I was elated to be with her actually. To be with one of my children. With Mark, together and parenting.
"It was a really nice Christmas period. I was very happy actually. Until all the media attention. That's my experience".
[…]
Constance Marten says Mark Gordon told her to say baby died of cot death
She also told detectives she debated handing herself in two weeks after their baby died.www.bbc.co.uk
“A bit traumatised”
And yet, how easily and enjoyably can you parent constantly in holiday cottages, cars, taxis and hotels (sometimes more than one in a day)?
Also, does she mean Victoria slept in an adult sleeping bag? The Argus just says sleeping bag, rather than a baby/toddler one.
I feel awful for them and, obviously, for Victoria, but so much of this doesn’t add up. Victoria had a coat (after the one burnt in the car fire), but they don’t seem to have kept it (unless it appears later in the trial). She was perfectly happy during the Christmas period parenting, but constantly travelling in stressful conditions - she claims leaving the cottage two days after Victoria’s birth. She was starving to the point of utter weakness, but her breast milk was absolutely unaffected. Equally, they left before her milk would have come through (colostrum first) and, if she was driving, that’s quite long periods without a tiny newborn being able to feed on demand to encourage the milk to come. (And CM would have been unbelievably thirsty without access to lots of water/equivalent drinks as the oxytocin really makes you want to gulp water in those early feeding days.) She was well looked after, but slept in unsafe high SIDS risk conditions. Victoria died in Harwich, but was seen on cctv in a brick lane restaurant (and this was confused for Sussex because she was exhausted, but didn’t put anything in place to reduce risks around exhaustion - you can burp a baby lying down). They planned to get a flat in London, but travelled extensively up north before deciding this and only didn’t seek a flat because someone approached them and revealed they were on the news. They were desperate for a PM, but didn’t come forward or tell the police once caught or attempt to store Victoria in a way to assist that.
It’s the dragging the bag that sounds bizarre and so disrespectful somehow. Two grown, relatively tall adults unable to carry a no more than 10lb baby (50th centile average for a 1 month old girl is 7.8lbs so I’m being over fair with an upwards estimate)? 10lbs would be roughly the equivalent of two large (4 pint) bottles of milk. Heavy, but not impossible for adults on a shoulder, especially knowing it’s your daughter’s body - and Victoria was unlikely to even be that heavy. Would you not take a handle each if necessary? And surely it’s less to do with the weight and more with the smell? How unnoticed could you go carrying around a decomposing body?
So much of this seems well placed to counter certain points, but perhaps I am being unfair. If she passed in the way they said and they attempted resuscitation, it would have been heartbreaking for both of them.
Does anyone know if the resuscitation in the situation described would be able to be confirmed during a post mortem?
I don't recall this being reported in the Argus live feed. Was the information discussed in court today?A bit more to this window story.
'Social services took Constance Marten's other children away'
Constance Marten , 36, told detectives she believed social services had intervened after a family court blamed her co-defendant Mark Gordon, 49, for the 'accident'.www.dailymail.co.uk
Maybe concern from the family about previous cult involvement? JMO.
Maybe, but maybe they didn't think him suitable partner material because of his past. I agree that there is more background to this and it may have to do with CM and not MG.
I didn’t see it in the Argus either. I need to reread it, but it seems to be being reported alongside the rest of the interview, so I assume it was discussed?
Wonder what his motivation is for saying that? He doesn't want to get done for driving without a license/insurance? Insurance companies don't like having convictions11:23am
Gordon said that Marten was driving when the car exploded as he cannot drive.
Constance Marten 'an excellent mother', baby death trial heard
Live updates from Constance Marten and Mark Gordon trialwww.theargus.co.uk
From earlier reports
The person who got out of the driver's side went to the rear of the vehicle, opened the boot of the car and was frantically trying to get things out of the car.
The person then came towards me and stood to my right as I was looking at the car.
I then started to record the fire on my mobile phone, and the first response from the gentleman was to ask me Am I filming that?
https://podcasts.musixmatch.com/podcast/the-trial-01gw40zm7r6hc08w7jepkajncm/episode/constance-marten-and-mark-gordon-somethings-not-right-01hndshe4838eawv9y9qm4ymx0
Mr Hudson said he saw a woman get out of the passenger’s side of the car and run past him on the hard shoulder, while the male driver "frantically" pulled items out of the burning vehicle.
'I could have saved baby of runaway aristocrat Constance Marten' - motorist
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