UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #14

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earthspirit said:
- a few people have mentioned that they did not believe that the homeless man was really a homeless man. is that what you are also meaning? i get the meaning and understand if this is in fact what you mean?:thinking:
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Yes it is.
 
Shiressleuth said:
I interpreted as they are using a Russian sat system rather than GPS so that may circumvent the UK/Eu rules perhaps? ? IDK just guessing. Secret squirrel stuff, ways n means n all that.
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personally I don't like any of this, I was hoping that the pi would be completely independent ,
 
cj357 said:
Yes, I could certainly jog in them if I wanted/needed to!
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So although he had dressed for a night on the town he was not actually badly set up if he had decided to head home on foot. Comfortable footwear and light coloured clothing.

A 39% moon and a clear sky.

Roads he would have known well from driving them over the preceding 3 years.
 
eneri12 said:
Oh no I totally agree, he or she probably would have been open to all sorts of comments and inferences. What I meant was that in missing persons cases as well known and well reported as these, the media usually jumps on anyone and everyone directly or indirectly involved for quotes and dramatic effect in their bulletins. It's just always surprised me that in this case, nobody in the area that night other than the takeaway guys has been spoken to by the media.


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actually the media do not need to print stories they have obtained from others. i know the raf guys cant talk but others in bury saint edmunds may already have spoken to the press - they might have told good or bad about corrie. why is there nothing in print? well i think that each time nicola or tony talk. they are giving the media what they want. a new twist to the story. no need at this stage for printing background info about corrie. when there is some outcome its possible tales will be told. just imo anyhow
 
Dimps said:
Could P&SS be keeping a close eye on our Troops Miss French - due to other operational or other investigative reasons, I'm just wondering if that's Shiresleuths inference which might be a good point?
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so this is purely hypothetical. what if the homeless man is a military spy and sees corrie doing something he shouldnt have? what if he sees him in the bin area scoring pot or a bag of coke or goodness knows what other illegal thing he might have been doing? would they not bundle him home in a taxi or some undercover military car? or something - dont really know where im going with that but its the new focus rather than that poor bin man.
 
db09striker said:
I assume so. I am not an expert whatsoever.

I suspect a Hook-Up.

Could have picked Corrie up at Horseshoe and driven somewhere to park up, chat, and get to know each other and then later took Corrie back to a house.
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we keep being told that corrie is not gay so unlikely to have been a hookup - <modsnip>
 
MelmothTheLost said:
So although he had dressed for a night on the town he was not actually badly set up if he had decided to head home on foot. Comfortable footwear and light coloured clothing.

A 39% moon and a clear sky.

Roads he would have known well from driving them over the preceding 3 years.
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Yes, perfect. 2+ hour walk/jog home. Everyone loves to do that at 4am when half cut.

He didn't walk home. He didn't jog home. Not fact, but my opinion. Just too unlikely and doesn't explain his disappearance or his phone pinging in Barton Mills. Too many things have to come together for this theory to work.
 
I am still of the opinion that this a hook gone wrong, and IMHO the AWOL/bin lorry theories do not stand up to scrutiny.
Here is what I think happened on the balance of probability -
1) Corrie was sat in the doorway and subsequently arranged a meet through an app/or someone he had met before.
2) He was walking towards SB on the basis that he was to be picked up/met there; he either recognises the person/car in the HS (or was signalled) which is why he changes direction. I suspect the person he was meeting didn't want to be seen (for whatever reason), and so decided the HS would be more covert and perhaps they both sat in the car for a while. Thereafter they decided to move off, coincidentally, in the direction of BM which is why the phone pings those masts. The phone was either turned off by the person Corrie met or ran out of battery.
3) I am sure the Police will be well sighted on the mobile phone information for all those moving in a similar direction at the same time (can't have been many), and will be cross referencing this with known vehicle movements, and I think this is where the answer lies. I believe the Police already have a fairly accurate idea as to what happened. I sat through the evidence in a murder trial were mobile phone evidence was key, and it was incredible the level of detail they were able to obtain, and despite the criticisms of the Police I don't for one second believe that they are being lax in their investigation. If the Police aren't investigating obvious areas of interest that are being raised by the family there will be a good reason for this (i.e. they have excluded them because they are irrelevant).
 
Scorpio1 said:
iv always been towards AWOL right from day one and nothing has yet changed, we have no DNA in the bin area so random attack is out, walk home we have no body that would have been found long ago, in my mind all we have is a guy with problems in life, normally I would be going down the suicide road, no body again , I suspect that raf marham might have a connection as that is a place that he visited regular, then we're left with what areas he has connections with! IMOIMO
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I was actually thinking of you as I read Tony Wringe's latest interview. As you know I wasn't initially and due to a number of factors, came to this option too, a few weeks ago.
 
tim04 said:
3) I am sure the Police will be well sighted on the mobile phone information for all those moving in a similar direction at the same time (can't have been many), and will be cross referencing this with known vehicle movements, and I think this is where the answer lies. I believe the Police already have a fairly accurate idea as to what happened. I sat through the evidence in a murder trial were mobile phone evidence was key, and it was incredible the level of detail they were able to obtain, and despite the criticisms of the Police I don't for one second believe that they are being lax in their investigation. If the Police aren't investigating obvious areas of interest that are being raised by the family there will be a good reason for this (i.e. they have excluded them because they are irrelevant).
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Very much agree with this.
 
Gannondorf82 said:
agreeing on heading out to BM in a vehicle, I think the likelihood is he was walking along a country road/A road and got hit by car. A pedestrian can be thrown a long way by a high speed impact.

On page 16 of this Virginia DMV report is a virtually identical scenario to what I imagine. Woman by side side of road is hit by car and thrown 89 feet into a ditch. Driver didn't stop.

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/safety/programs/crashes/archived/sr22.pdf
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corrie's step father. david . well he is a police crash test specialist so i am sure scenarios like this will have been covered - well hopefully
 
earthspirit said:
we keep being told that corrie is not gay so unlikely to have been a hookup - <modsnip>
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If I use the term hook-up I mean it as a meeting with a person of either sex, am I using it wrongly, is it just for same sex shenanigans?
 
Lolly63 said:
The Aldershot incident had been ruled out
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.da...outside-barracks-Aldershot.html?client=safari

I've also read Marham was not what people think it to be but can't find the link. I'll keep looking.
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Sure I realise that and understand both the incidents you mention might not be what they are cracked up to be according to the Police but my question was more about why would there be a security service bloke dressed as a homeless guy be undercover in BSE? What is the operation?
 
suzyjackson said:
If I use the term hook-up I mean it as a meeting with a person of either sex, am I using it wrongly, is it just for same sex shenanigans?
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oh dea i am probably showing my age here - i did not think female/ male sexual meeting were called hookups? very willing to be corrected. i have just been led by what others have said, rather than doing my own checking
 
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