UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #9

[trickydicky]

Hi all, it's been a while since I last posted but I've been following with interest.

For what it's worth, if it is possible that Corrie was with his mobile when it last 'pinged' and he was in the Barton Mills 'area'; is it feasible that he managed to get a lift from one of the three/four vehicles to leave the horseshoe and was dropped off near the Barton Mills roundabout?

If this is possible, and Corrie had walked home before; but from here and not all the way; shouldn't the police be focusing their searches/efforts on the wooded area either side of the B1106 just above Wordwell? Does anyone know if SULSAR has searched this area?

JMO

 

[MidsummersDay]

Here is the link: http://www.rwsfm.co.uk/findcorrie-the-latest/

Just listened to it again and she only says he is seen walking from the car not specifically seen drinking in the car. I wonder where that info came from then? A witness presumably.

I also have to point again the difference in times given. On the above (from 8th Nov) she says he parks up at about 22:00 but the Find Corrie FAQ it still says he left the base around 22:00.

I would cautiously accept the 'about 2200' as a constant and subtract the travel time from Hon to BSE from that.


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[Holly&Ivy]

His walk into the horse shoe clearly shows he was dawdling and lingering/waiting for someone

 

[Lolabear]

Hi all, it's been a while since I last posted but I've been following with interest.

For what it's worth, if it is possible that Corrie was with his mobile when it last 'pinged' and he was in the Barton Mills 'area'; is it feasible that he managed to get a lift from one of the three/four vehicles to leave the horseshoe and was dropped off near the Barton Mills roundabout?

If this is possible, and Corrie had walked home before; but from here and not all the way; shouldn't the police be focusing their searches/efforts on the wooded area either side of the B1106 just above Wordwell? Does anyone know if SULSAR has searched this area?

JMO

Surely if someone had given him an innocent lift they would've come forward straight the way though

 

[Dcflag]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

 

[Lolabear]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

I'd say health and safety plus security reasons would call for at least 2.

 

[MaxS]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

I'm assuming its a mechanised process like: (http://www.scottishhousingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2015/05/Biffa.jpg)

 

[Holly&Ivy]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

bins are not emptied manually but mechanically.... This is the 21st Century!!

 

[Lolabear]

bins are not emptied manually but mechanically.... This is the 21st Century!!

No need for sarcasm! You can't climb 3 steps of a ladder alone these days

 

[Clevercat]

done that with hubby, straight off, he's walked into something he shouldn't have and he's 'brown bread'

Just asked my 3 kids for their opinions (all in their 20's), they all said (separately without knowing what the others said), drugs/sex games gone wrong

 

[MidsummersDay]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

Vehicle reverses upto the general area using cab mounted reversing camera. Driver gets out and wheels dustbin into the lift arm system. Driver pushes lift button. Bin goes up and is weighed then over into the compartment. Bin goes down and is weighed again. One weight is subtracted from the other to give a 'charge' record. Bin is un hooked. Lifting arm is stowed and secured. Driver climbs back into cab. Bin lorry leaves.


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[Lolabear]

Oh dear! Anyway, just asked my husband- he thinks fallen in or under somewhere as he tried to make his way home.

Yes that's always been my first train of thought

 

[cotswoldemmie]

Oh dear! Anyway, just asked my husband- he thinks fallen in or under somewhere as he tried to make his way home.

When I told my best friend (23 year old in the Army), the basic facts, he said "he's tried to walk back and has ended up in water somewhere, he's in a lake or river" Granted, not helpful to the case but that was his first reaction


Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.

 

[eeejay268]

best search info I could find


British Transport Police assisted with searches along the railway line from Bury St Edmunds yesterday, as part of the ongoing search strategy to locate Corrie. Today the A1101 between the Fiveways roundabout at Barton Mills and Icklingham was closed for a brief time while officers conducted further searches along this road, and more work has been carried out along the A11

Further searches are being carried out along the A1101 today

Today further searches have been carried out on a route parallel to the A134 between Honington and Fornham St Martin.
Extensive ground and air searches have been carried out, including looking at waterways in the area, and Suffolk Police have also consulted national experts to ensure everything possible is being done through searches and other work to find him.

The National Search and Rescue Dog Association have again been out searching along a route parallel to the A134 between Honington and Fornham St Martin this morning as part of continuing work to locate missing 23-year-old Corrie McKeague.

This weekend further searches will be carried out by SULSAR and NSARDA (Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue & the National Search and Rescue Dog Association). This work will again focus on areas around the A1101.

The specialist RAF teams are joining police and Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue volunteers to carry out line searching of wooded areas on possible routes Corrie may have tried to walk home.

Today further searches have been completed in the Great Livermere area, with specialist RAF search officers joining police and Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue volunteers to comb through woodland areas. Line searches are being carried out, as part of the ongoing search strategy.

Today further searches are being carried out between the A143 and A134, with Suffolk and Norfolk police search teams being joined by specialist search trained RAF personnel and Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue volunteers

Searches have been carried out in a wide area between Bury St Edmunds, Honington and Barton Mills. This search strategy was put in place by specialist police officers and carried out by police, RAF personnel and volunteers from Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue (SULSAR) and NSARDA (National Search And Rescue Dogs Association).
In the early stages roadsides between Bury St Edmunds and Honington were searched with this being expanded from the roads to surrounding farmland and woodland and to the Barton Mills area. To date searches have been carried out along possible routes between Bury and the base, on a route parallel to the A134 between Honington and Fornham St Martin, on the A1101 between the Fiveways roundabout at Barton Mills and Icklingham, around the Great Livermere area, between the A134 and A143 and in waterways. SULSAR and the RAF have assisted with water searches in the River Lark and in bodies of water and ditches between the town and the base.
British Transport Police assisted with searches along the railway line from Bury St Edmunds, while the National Police Air Service helicopter has been carrying out searches throughout the investigation.
Specialist RAF search teams have joined Suffolk police officers and Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue volunteers to carry out line searching of wooded areas too. New searches are being considered as the enquiry continues.

After rush hour, one lane of the eastbound carriageway will be closed between the Moreton Hall and Rougham junctions, in order for police search teams to conduct searches at the roadside.
The search will cover a mile and a half stretch of road and will continue into the afternoon, when the road is expected to fully reopen

Suffolk Lowland Search and Rescue team search for Corrie McKeague just outside Troston Slades Covert

Search teams walk along the A1101 from Icklingham to Fiveways Roundabout, near Barton Mills, Mildenhall, and from the roundabout down the A11 dual carriageway towards Newmarket. The searches show that police are widening their net, having previously focused on the stretch of land between Bury and RAF Honington

The railway line between the Bury train station and Moreton Hall area is also searched

Search dog Jack, a border collie, and his handler Dave Forster comb a two-square-mile area near the A134 at Ingham. They are joined by search and rescue veteran Kevin Waterson, founder of the East Anglian branch of the National Search and Rescue Dog Association, who also previously helped with the search for missing April Jones in Wales in 2012 and the hunt for one of serial killer Steve Wright’s victims

Search and rescue teams, including Mr Waterson’s dog unit, comb the area along the A134 near Fornham St Martin
Throughout Saturday, search teams carry out further checks in the Mildenhall area and along the A1101

 

[eeejay268]

now if someone could draw a nice map roughly showing where they'd searched I'd be grateful

 

[SOMETHINGWILLDO]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

Here's another one - what way is the weight of a bin logged? Is it digital where it can't be tampered with or is it hand written on a data sheet on each shift? I'm interested in the answer of that if the BBC news quote is to be believed that all 4 vehicles had been checked and cleared and that Corrie didn't leave in a vehicle. I'm guessing that is incorrect information from the BBC?
If it IS correct though, if he wasn't seen on foot leaving and he didn't leave by vehicle then how did he leave?? He can't fly so he left somehow, which brings me to how the bin weights are logged?

I'm guessing though that it's been an error on the BBCs side


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[TheTruthWillOut]

I've got an interesting question. How would one person empty the bin? These are big industrial bins. Is it usual to have one person doing it alone?

Well I don't think handling and moving them is much of a problem. I do it all the time at work alone and they can be very full and heavy! I'm a small guy too.

As for emptying the bins that is fully automated so wouldn't be an issue. Place bin over lifting hooks and press the button.

As for whether the norm would be two at least on the wagon I would normally have said yes but then HGV drivers work alone so probably not. I know a person can't work alone in a factory setting with machinery.

I don't see much difference in risk TBH!

 

[Ashbeck]

If the BBC are correct and the vehicles have all been discounted could this be why Nicola was so angry at the police this week? The family are adamant he left in a vehicle and could absolutely not have left on foot, so if all vehicles have been discounted it goes against their beliefs completely.

 

[SOMETHINGWILLDO]

If the BBC are correct and the vehicles have all been discounted could this be why Nicola was so angry at the police this week? The family are adamant he left in a vehicle and could absolutely not have left on foot, so if all vehicles have been discounted it goes against their beliefs completely.

Up until very recently those vehicles were still up for investigation so I'm not sure if the report from the BBC is correct at all.

IF they have been discounted then where does that leave it?
Didn't leave on foot?
Didn't leave in a vehicle?
Didn't leave in bin lorry?
So now what?


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[mumkinton]

Has it been absolutely discounted that he did not climb up onto the staircases at the back of the horseshoe? Is there another way down that would evade CCTV? I could see his phone slipping out of his pocket onto a bin if he hopped up onto one. Just throwing it into the pot as we seem to have exhausted all other lines of his exit of the area.:thinking: