Thursday night I was lying in bed when the name Lilian popped in to my head, I'd just been thinking about Mr Lytton, so I straight away sat up, got online and did some digging then eventually checked the electoral registers and then the databases I use at work - And when I saw the sale in 2006 was convinced I was right, plus there was no forwarding address - So yes long before the media printed anything
Identified! UK - David Lytton, South Pennines, 'Neil Dovestone', 65-75, Dec'15
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Thursday night I was lying in bed when the name Lilian popped in to my head, I'd just been thinking about Mr Lytton, so I straight away sat up, got online and did some digging then eventually checked the electoral registers and then the databases I use at work - And when I saw the sale in 2006 was convinced I was right, plus there was no forwarding address - So yes long before the media printed anything
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Well blimey, between you and dalsglen we got a name and address lol!
I'd been looking earlier in the day for David Lyttons in london, but halfheartedly, I guess thats why I suddenly thought of the road name that night, must have seen it earlier in the day it was only till I did more digging that night that it seemed more plausible
I'd been looking earlier in the day for David Lyttons in london, but halfheartedly, I guess thats why I suddenly thought of the road name that night, must have seen it earlier in the day it was only till I did more digging that night that it seemed more plausible
Respectful speculation..
When DL stopped in at an arcade, had wondered if he had a connection to gambling, now wonder if he knew Saddleworth, through bets made elsewhere, perhaps concerning boxing.
Did he live a solitary life because he felt safer that way?
Curious now to watch this film.
[video=youtube;LDWzeq5QGiA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWzeq5QGiA[/video]
When DL stopped in at an arcade, had wondered if he had a connection to gambling, now wonder if he knew Saddleworth, through bets made elsewhere, perhaps concerning boxing.
Did he live a solitary life because he felt safer that way?
Curious now to watch this film.
[video=youtube;LDWzeq5QGiA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWzeq5QGiA[/video]
Here's a 2006 article on working as a croupier, the skills involved, etc: http://www.independent.co.uk/studen...ting-job/i-want-your-job-croupier-479529.html
A video of him in 1994 here: http://news.sky.com/story/mans-death-on-saddleworth-moor-remains-a-mystery-10747191
He had apparently also worked as a Tube driver, and was very much a loner according to a neighbour.
He had apparently also worked as a Tube driver, and was very much a loner according to a neighbour.
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It seems even more sad now we're finding out more about him.
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So they think he may have been a tube driver, a taxi driver and maybe a croupier.
How sad this story is turning out to be. The gentlemen who invited him didn't really expect he would accept. But he did accept the invite and actually looks like he was enjoying himself, dancing and smiling.
I'm getting more intrigued by Davids story even though he wanted to remain totally anonymous.
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Maybe Mr Lytton felt most comfortable just moving around transit hubs, surrounded by people, yet at a distance from them imo.
http://news.sky.com/story/mans-death-on-saddleworth-moor-remains-a-mystery-10747191
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I wonder what happened to his passport and wallet.
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It's also possible that he could have earned money, officially or otherwise, teaching English.
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And old friend of my partner's married a British Pakistani man in Yorkshire many years ago and used to visit the country regularly with her husband. When he died, she continued to go out there and spent 6 months a year in Pakistan teaching English privately and in schools. She is in her late 60s and has now returned to the UK permanently.
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Tube drivers are pretty well paid - currently between £50k and £60k, so in his time he probably managed to put some savings aside. He would also have had a decent pension so was probably pretty comfortably off in retirement. It's likely that he could well have afforded to buy a decent retirement property in Spain or Portugal so there must have been something that specifically drew him to Pakistan.
Am I allowed to quip that it's unusual for a Brit to be an illegal immigrant in Pakistan?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...ery-man-died-as-quietly-as-he-lived-v8hf9grhz
Mr Lytton's date of birth has been published, but still no uk birth record that could match with him
Feel very sad after seeing the footage of him at that wedding and hearing his neighbours speak about him, seems like such a private but lovely man
Mr Lytton's date of birth has been published, but still no uk birth record that could match with him
Feel very sad after seeing the footage of him at that wedding and hearing his neighbours speak about him, seems like such a private but lovely man
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How strange, I've checked again and there were 2 Lyttons born in London in 1948 - Michael G and Susan. I did wonder if he was born Michael but the dates don't match (Michael being registered in the first quarter of the year, David being born in April). And I doubt he was ever a Susan.
Which leaves two options - his name has been changed, or there's a spelling mistake somewhere.
My friend Adam freaked out when he couldn't find his birth record and asked me for help. Eventually we found it, spelled Adan. However, I've checked a few variations and nada. Weird.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/sear...thyear=1948&birthyear_offset=0&keyword=london
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I think the police matched his DNA with a relative to confirm his identity, so that might rule out adoption.
Wondering f the lack of birth records ties in somehow with him not having his id when found?
Noting that his left ear " bend " remained the same over the years.imo.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...ery-man-died-as-quietly-as-he-lived-v8hf9grhz
