UK - Gunshots fired outside houses of parliament in London. 22 Mar 2017

[Ellmau]

He might just have taught English as a foriegn language - no particular qualifications required to take a TEFL course; http://www.e4s.co.uk/jobs/2-teaching-english-as-a-foreign-language.htm

 

[Ellmau]

They think he may have been indoctrinated while in prison: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-westminster-bridge-met-police-a7646321.html

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Now standing at just under £170k.

£253k.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I bet he wasn't a proper teacher, I'd be surprised if he held a post in a British school with assault and weapons charges on his rap sheet.

I'd be surprised as well if he could have taught TEFL in a reputable English language school, of which there are obviously dozens in London, because I would have expected them to require an enhanced criminal records check since many students are minors. Although teachers probably wouldn't routinely be alone with students that would probably happen from time to time.

No reputable school would employ a teacher without a recognised TEFL qualification. They generally take 4 weeks or so full time study and attendance at a reputable teaching centre that is itself accredited to teach and carry out exams for qualification.

If it's true he was radicalised in prison I wonder what his religion was before that.

 

[Ellmau]

I'd be surprised as well if he could have taught TEFL in a reputable English language school, of which there are obviously dozens in London, because I would have expected them to require an enhanced criminal records check since many students are minors. Although teachers probably wouldn't routinely be alone with students that would probably happen from time to time.


If it's true he was radicalised in prison I wonder what his religion was before that.

He may have coverted to Islam before being radicalised; but before his conversion he was probably the typical Britsih nothing-in-particular.

 

[Elley Mae]

His dob is 12-25-64 i thought i read he converted at 17-18 so eighty one, 81 eighty two, 82 he converted.jmo

Not sure when he could have been in jail. Thought i read he was. Jmo

His offences were between 1983 and 2003 and the ones listed were not that serious, no suggestion he served any jail time. So maybe he did teach. He'd have had to have got a degree to do so, anyone heard whether he went to university?

"Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack," Scotland Yard said. "However, he was known to police and has a range of previous convictions for assaults, including grievous bodily harm, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences."

Masood's first conviction came when he was 19-years-old in November 1983 for criminal damage. His last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife. He had never been convicted of a terrorism offence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39373766

 

[LadyL]

O/T but there's been loads of debate about whether to remove her as head of state.

Oh sorry, does seem odd. Fully independent, queen head of state. Jmo

 

[gregjrichards]

"Police have reportedly performed a controlled explosion near Westminster, less than a mile away from the scene of a terrorist attack which claimed the lives of three people.

A senior BBC producer said London's Metropolitan Police had confirmed the operation on Birdcage Walk, yards from Westminster Bridge where a terrorist ploughed a hire car into pedestrians, killing three people before getting out and murdering a police officer.

Both Buckingham Palace and Downing Street are nearby.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Police are dealing with a suspect package in the area of Birdcage Walk. Officers remain on the scene."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ice-scotland-yard-london-attack-a7647091.html

Just posting this as it has caused some confusion and additional fear of another attack which is not the case.

 

[dotr]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3151990/london-terror-attack-westminster-live-latest-updates/

Several thousand people eventually gathered in London’s Trafalgar Square for a candlelit vigil to honour the victims and their families and to show London’s unity in the face of militant attacks.

Dignitaries, police and clergy, including Buddhist monks in brown robes, gathered on the steps leading to the National Gallery.
After speeches and a minute’s silence the crowd was so quiet that Big Ben could be heard chiming in the distance as the home secretary, mayor and acting police commissioner lit the three oversize candles to applause from the crowd.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Now standing at just under £170k.

And just hit over £303,000. Wowzers. Small comfort to Keith's widow of course, but I hope the money might make the coming months more comfortable for her and the family.

 

[Inthedetails]

And just hit over £303,000. Wowzers. Small comfort to Keith's widow of course, but I hope the money might make the coming months more comfortable for her and the family.

It also feels good to be generous - it's a comfort to the people giving as well.

Bad times to tend to bring strong people together. I've seen it before.....would like to go a long stretch before seeing it again.

jmo

 

[Ellmau]

A 75 man has now died from his injuries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-39355505

Also, it's been confirmed that KM was definitely not a qualiied teacher (possibly not even TEFL), but a self-styled 'English tutor'.

It is understood not to be his birth name, which I'd guessed anyway because of the conversion-to-Islam thing.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

A 75 man has now died from his injuries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-39355505

Also, it's been confirmed that KM was definitely not a qualiied teacher (possibly not even TEFL), but a self-styled 'English tutor'.

It is understood not to be his birth name, which I'd guessed anyway because of the conversion-to-Islam thing.

There is no birth record for Khalid Masood either, be interesting to know what his name was before he converted.

Very sad to hear another person has died

 

[Alyce]

There is no birth record for Khalid Masood either, be interesting to know what his name was before he converted.

Very sad to hear another person has died

Just seen this in DM


Scotland Yard revealed how Masood was known by a number of aliases and MailOnline can reveal he was born

Adrian Elms to a single mother in Kent before his religious conversion.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...irmingham-ongoing-incident.html#ixzz4cBnkpfzd
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[Ellmau]

Just seen this in DM


Scotland Yard revealed how Masood was known by a number of aliases and MailOnline can reveal he was born

Adrian Elms to a single mother in Kent before his religious conversion.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...irmingham-ongoing-incident.html#ixzz4cBnkpfzd
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Clearly a nasty piece of work even before his conversion and radicalisation.

 

[Ellmau]

Contemporary report of the 2003 offence: http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/man-stabbed-in-the-nose-1-1426795

 

[Coquette]

I am appalled that anyone would even suggest that this woman was being insensitive or doing anything wrong on that bridge yesterday. She looks absolutely horrified and frightened. At times like this there is no room for more hatred or cruelty. A little empathy goes a long way. MOO.

'Who is the real monster?' Internet turns on trolls who criticised 'indifferent' Muslim woman seen walking through terror attack

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-woman-seen-walking-attack.html#ixzz4cBuIRiv6
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4342438/Trolls-blast-Muslim-woman-seen-walking-attack.html

 

[Elley Mae]

Contemporary report of the 2003 offence: http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/man-stabbed-in-the-nose-1-1426795

How is that not attemped murder?

He'd probably still be out now.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Just seen this in DM


Scotland Yard revealed how Masood was known by a number of aliases and MailOnline can reveal he was born

Adrian Elms to a single mother in Kent before his religious conversion.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...irmingham-ongoing-incident.html#ixzz4cBnkpfzd
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Thank you, we have an Adrian R Elms registered Q1/1965 in Kent so that's probably be him. Marriage in 2004 to <redacted> Malik.

Warning - there are 2 Adrian R Elms born within weeks of each other in the same area. Just a heads up as I nearly printed info which I reckon belongs to the other Adrian.

 

[Ellmau]

Yes, there's one still in Kent who is obviously a different person.