GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #11

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BatFace said:
I believe it was on the Diane Lem memorial page.
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Surely not !! It's mostly her sister and friends posting there. No way could he have made a comment like that there without causing uproar.
 
How IS should have been arrested:
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Tortoise said:
Really?
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I have a feeling it may have been taken from FB possibly from her family's pages but I don't follow it and cannot swear to that is where it came from. I think it was posted on this forum at some stage but I don't really know how to search for something like that.
 
You might be right. It is possible it was on his own page, which makes more sense. It's not there any more though.


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Cherwell said:
Oh, I thought you meant they'd built an extension or something like that.
Maybe that's counting the annexe over the garage.
That garage, and the rooms above, is bigger than my house.
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You could be right. I didn't think of that. I am unsure how or if that has ever been described before. I am sure we could probably find the sales blurb for it if we dig deep enough.
 
TheRisenBishop said:
Me too, it would set a horrible precedent! No descendant of someone convicted of murder for gain should be able to profit either directly or indirectly. I'm sure they'd be the first to agree too.
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I completely agree. I doubt that they really knew Helen that well really. They were at an age when they would be living their own lives and I doubt that IS would have nurtured the relationship st all. The boys could have even resented Helen with their Dad making the commitment to move in with each other. It wasn't really that long since their Mum had died and they were moved out if the family home.

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I know that there is inevitably an interest in the money aspect, as it seems probable it formed much of the motive, but I agree with the post from earlier that it's starting to appear a bit intrusive of us to speculate. The bottom line is, we don't know, we aren't likely to find out, and it isn't really any of our business.

Let's just content ourselves with the thought of IS having porridge for the rest of his days, with perhaps the odd Mars Bar from the commissary to remind him of the high life.


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Interested Bystander said:
Here we Cherwell.

Last week specialist police teams returned to her £1.3 million seven-bedroom home and began found her body in the grounds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...hor-helen-bailey-found-in-grounds-of-her-own/
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I've been searching through planning applications for 45 Baldock Road, to see if there are any detailed plans of the garage. No luck, but Michael Shannon the previous owner wanted to build a 4-bedroomed bungalow in the grounds of the property and he appealed the refusal in 2010 - but that appeal was also refused. Presumably it was after that he decided to sell up and move. I think I read somewhere that he's 82? so possibly the bungalow was for his wife and himself. Conjecture I know.The thing that really hit me was if only Mr Shannon had been given that planning permission then Helen/IS would never have bought the house - although of course IS would have very likely found a different means of disposal elsewhere.

BTW, the house was sold with 7 bedrooms so none were added.

It also hit me about the name of the property 'Hartwell Lodge'. I wonder if that stemmed from there being a well?

Over thinking it now - time for a cool cider whilst making a curry for dinner later on!
 
icemaiden65 said:
I've been searching through planning applications for 45 Baldock Road, to see if there are any detailed plans of the garage. No luck, but Michael Shannon the previous owner wanted to build a 4-bedroomed bungalow in the grounds of the property and he appealed the refusal in 2010 - but that appeal was also refused. Presumably it was after that he decided to sell up and move. I think I read somewhere that he's 82? so possibly the bungalow was for his wife and himself. Conjecture I know.The thing that really hit me was if only Mr Shannon had been given that planning permission then Helen/IS would never have bought the house - although of course IS would have very likely found a different means of disposal elsewhere.

BTW, the house was sold with 7 bedrooms so none were added.

It also hit me about the name of the property 'Hartwell Lodge'. I wonder if that stemmed from there being a well?

Over thinking it now - time for a cool cider whilst making a curry for dinner later on!
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Thanks for the info. In Zoopla and Rightmove Historical Prices List I am fairly sure it quoted it as a 5 bedroom house. I will have on another look but if you have information that is always was 7 bedroomed it is most likely correct.
 
Interested Bystander said:
Didn't we read also that Diane had left him to live at her mother's at one point but she went back and he suggested that she did it more often as he thought it brought them closer. Not sure about the exact wording. So not all hunky-dory.
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I've been trying various search terms in the threads, as I also seem to remember this - wasn't this part of his evidence? But I'm coming up blank.

I remember something along these lines anyway - definitely that them spending a bit more time apart had been good for them etc...

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Interested Bystander said:
You could be right. I didn't think of that. I am unsure how or if that has ever been described before. I am sure we could probably find the sales blurb for it if we dig deep enough.
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Same description for both the March and the July estate agent spec

Garage/Annexe Ground Floor
32'2 x 32'
(9.80m x 9.75m)
Windows to side and rear aspect
Two up and over doors set
in 14'5 openings
Three phase power
Alarm system
Door to:
Inner lobby
stairs to first floor
Door to garden


Garage/Annexe First Floor
30'10 x 20'2
(9.39m x 6.14m)
Window to front and rear aspects
Guest WC and cloakroom
The floor has been strengthened
and would be an ideal games room
or office space
 
DollyDiamond said:
That photo of him being questioned in the armchair at the family home - his surroundings are so classy and tasteful and so very Helen! He not only stole her life and her money - he stole her style too. That blundering buffoon wouldn't have a clue how to create a beautiful, tasteful home like that.
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Yeah, the way he's sitting in that chair, like a bag of **** tied ugly. The horrible fat slug. Totally out of place with his surroundings. God, he's vile. That mugshot of his shows his true character; it even looks as if he's got a slight smirk playing around his mouth. Fecking pig.
 
The only new planning permission after Helen moved in was to replace the garden shed - which I assume is more or less the summer house by the swimming pool. No doubt done with the boys in mind for when they had friends over for pool parties, sigh.
 
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