Robin Hood
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IIRC if he's prosecuted for the illegal child photos he has certain restrictions on his release to indicate he can't have/own/view computer material.
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Jeezzzz. What is it about sex, that drives some people to do these things, to have these urges?
There must be some sort of explanation. We never seem to hear about any research in this field.
It's all very well calling these folk scum, perverts, evil etc. but that won't help the next child who is abused.
What causes it to happen????????????????
And it's mainly men.
What is it about sex, that drives some people to do these things, to have these urges? There must be some sort of explanation. We never seem to hear about any research in this field.
Yes goldielox. I was being tactful.
To think I felt kind of sorry for him in the beginning, in my own weird sort of way.
Now I am wondering if he could have been into all this BEFORE he met TM. I feel guilty for mentioning TM now. What a terrible thing to have happened to her.
Did the Internet corrupt Tabak, or was he already corrupt and that is why he sought out these images?
I wonder if his family in Holland will try to hide this from the old mother?
In later years we tried to shield my mother from things we knew would worry her.
Dear oh dear. what next?
Lol! Sorry.
I think he was probably twisted before he got himself on the internet (or met TM) - the birth of the internet has just made this stuff more accessable hasn't it. Why or how someone realises they have a certain kink though is anyone's guess.
I recall an accountant who used to frequent a forum years ago. He was in to feet- to be more specific he was in to smelly feet. He used to ask people to post him their well worn slippers and other footwear so he could sniff (and got knows what else) them. If he was still around I'd ask him how he got in to that. Another one - he liked dressing up as a maid. He used to ask for tips on how to be the perfect "lady's maid". He wanted to pop round to clean people's houses dressed like that too.
Back to VT - Holland is renowned for its *advertiser censored* so I'm guessing his taste for it started way back. Obviously "normal" *advertiser censored* didn't do it for him hence he's probably gone looking (and obviously found) the more extreme stuff and developed a taste for it. And we know what that escalated to.
Some probably have a reason in their background as to why they go a certain way sexually. And some people probably don't - they're just wired to be perverse...same as I believe some people are just wired to be bad and/or evil.
The point that I have had the most difficulty with processing is the fact that VT went to Joanna's flat that night having made the decisions to murder her. We know this to be true. He went there to attack his neighbour and it appears to me that he knew she was alone. He had to have known that if he left her alive, he would immediately be arrested, so before he went there he knew perfectly well that he was going to commit murder. That means that everything he did leading up to the murder would have been cold and calculating - all 43 injuries that occurred in a period of about 30 minutes. He also appears to have made a calculated decision that he could get away with it. No one in his right mind would spend 11 years completing three university degrees only to then make a decision which he thought could land him in jail for the remainder of his life. He fully expected that he could commit murder and get away with it. It just blows my mind ... the arrogance and calculating coldness.
I'll be disgusted if they don't prosecute. A life sentence for a completely different crime should not preclude what is, essentially, an attempt to get some kind of justice for the children in those images.Can he now been prosecuted for having this material now this is in the public domain? Is it likely when he has a life sentence already ?
I agree!I'll be disgusted if they don't prosecute.
I'm not a forensic expert but she'd recently been in the pub on a busy night so I imagine it's possible that other people's DNA was transferred onto her.I agree!
Still want to know what VT did during the unaccounted hour JY was in his flat and still want A & S to say definitively no one else was involved. Who belongs to the other bit of DNA found on JY? Are there any forensic experts among us who can explain how it got there please?
I'm not a forensic expert but she'd recently been in the pub on a busy night so I imagine it's possible that other people's DNA was transferred onto her.
Mr Loophole blasts decision to withhold Vincent Tabak's interest in violent *advertiser censored* from jury.
I still don't think he went there with the explicit intention of murder, main reason being no real evidence of pre-planning - eg he was doing a google maps search on Longwood Lane AFTER the event, not BEFORE
I still don't think he went there with the explicit intention of murder, main reason being no real evidence of pre-planning - eg he was doing a google maps search on Longwood Lane AFTER the event, not BEFORE.
We know he was a calculating and 'shrewd' individual - if he had calculated this in advance I think he could easily have ensured that Jo's body was not found for a very very long time.
I don't think that necessarily means that he went there with a purely 'innocent' intention - whatever happened, I think his obsession overtook any sense of what was rational or right.
Do we all believe if the information has been allowed, the verdict would have been unanimous?
Did the 10/2 verdict affect the judge's sentencing I wonder, in favour of VT?
20 years seem kind of light to me.
bees, can you remember where exactly the DNA was? I kind of remember it being on the back of her jeans (behind the knee) close to where VT's was found. Kind of odd there were only 2 bits of DNA on her and one is VT's and the other identified. If it's that easy to pick up, assuming she did so in the pub, wouldn't you think there would be more unidentified DNA on her?
I guess my point is, it's not that easy to pick up unless you come into direct contact with someone's bodily fluid ie. blood, semen, saliva, or a hair or bit of skin.