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I definately noticed that too.
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Exactly.
Their still watching me!!
I better start crying again then :anguish:
Good editing with the screen grab skill enzeder.
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I definately noticed that too.
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Hi, otto ... and the victim who wasnt in the flat either. So it's the pizza and the victim (alive or dead) taken from the flat, not just the pizza.
Everything else listed is no more than an armful.
What casts doubt on her returning is the lack of evidence, apparently, of a struggle in the location, forensic evidence of anyone else being in the flat, no one seeing her return and no one seeing her being bundled out to a car outside or leaving in her sock soles in the company of another party in what was, according to the police, a busy street that night and the next morning.
The only things which suggest she got back are those few items, as far as we know (and if there was more convincing evidence that she got back and was attacked there, the police would have cordoned it off right away, one would think, and would have told us thats where she was killed.)
And even those few items are missing a glaring piece - the pizza she had bought only moments before.
Wrong, I think.
From the Avon and Somerset Police website :
28/12/2010 12:21
3/01/2011 14:50
8/01/2011 12:34
There is an unmistakable progression in the police judgement from opinion to certainty, as the evidence rolls in.
Crimewatch producers call in Harry Potter fake snow firm to re-create day Jo Yeates' body was found in painstaking detail
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It looks like they are going for accurate detail with location and snow cover depth for the day.
If it is accurate, then it means the deposition site is not where it was surmised earlier, but is actually about 75 yards further up the lane, north of the quarry, here... http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...=NgNCaVENAR_TTlnDoxbVfg&cbp=11,166.27,,2,5.11
Hi, otto ... and the victim who wasnt in the flat either. So it's the pizza and the victim (alive or dead) taken from the flat, not just the pizza.
Everything else listed is no more than an armful.
What casts doubt on her returning is the lack of evidence, apparently, of a struggle in the location, forensic evidence of anyone else being in the flat, no one seeing her return and no one seeing her being bundled out to a car outside or leaving in her sock soles in the company of another party in what was, according to the police, a busy street that night and the next morning.
The only things which suggest she got back are those few items, as far as we know (and if there was more convincing evidence that she got back and was attacked there, the police would have cordoned it off right away, one would think, and would have told us thats where she was killed.)
And even those few items are missing a glaring piece - the pizza she had bought only moments before.
I think he was in a panic and not thinking clearly Getting her body to the car was a monumental chore. He wanted to make as few trips as possible so he did not go back to retrieve the other items. The pizza with his fingerprints on the plastic wrapping had to go.
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Without a doubt he would have been - The next part I want to see is the one that G/R makes an appeal in front of the TV cameras. This I think will mean it imminent that an arrest is to be made
It all depends what the finished article looks like on the film. This area could just be a test area, check the machines are working, and to get the correct depth of snow??? It only looks a very small area to me.
I should imagine they only want one go at it.
We shall see on Thursday next.
If it is accurate, then it means the deposition site is not where it was surmised earlier, but is actually about 75 yards further up the lane, north of the quarry, here... http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...=NgNCaVENAR_TTlnDoxbVfg&cbp=11,166.27,,2,5.11
If it is accurate, then it means the deposition site is not where it was surmised earlier, but is actually about 75 yards further up the lane, north of the quarry, here... http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...=NgNCaVENAR_TTlnDoxbVfg&cbp=11,166.27,,2,5.11
Hi, otto ... and the victim who wasnt in the flat either. So it's the pizza and the victim (alive or dead) taken from the flat, not just the pizza.
Everything else listed is no more than an armful.
What casts doubt on her returning is the lack of evidence, apparently, of a struggle in the location, forensic evidence of anyone else being in the flat, no one seeing her return and no one seeing her being bundled out to a car outside or leaving in her sock soles in the company of another party in what was, according to the police, a busy street that night and the next morning.
The only things which suggest she got back are those few items, as far as we know (and if there was more convincing evidence that she got back and was attacked there, the police would have cordoned it off right away, one would think, and would have told us thats where she was killed.)
And even those few items are missing a glaring piece - the pizza she had bought only moments before.
Crocodile tears if ever i've seen them.
He even stops crying, looks at the cameras, see's there still filming, then starts crying again.
You can see he can't wait for the charade to end. He's mighty uncomfortable.
Huhm.
North Bristol NHS trust and BDP, where murdered landscape architect worked, to co-operate on plans for permanent memorial
This still does not preclude GR from doing the deed. In fact imo Jo is more likely to enter a car of a person she knows. GR would then have to go to the dump site on Friday night before staging the flat and retreating to Sheffield.
What precipitated the murderous act ? A text from another peer group male didn't appear until 9:20pm .
i am beginning to agree with you....
certainly the tears are shed and the eyes face front...
then back to more tears....bit like children who are conscious that they are being watched and want to obtain total sympathy from situation...
and in the group photo taken recently he looks the only person not contorted with grief...looks quite together, face not streaked by constant tears...
we have all been there...
thinking about what we know about the couple so far...
jo...affluent background, private education, much loved by many, loving to many, secure, has had boyfriends before, secure in her own skin...,slim,attractive, knows her own worth..
greg....state school, no view of parents , no feeling how they feel about him, she was first girlfriend, not secure in way that jo was secure...all pics she is smiling, cuddling friends..
how devastated would he be to find that within hours of his leaving his girlfriend had texted another man....
that may well have spelt the end of her life...
if i can't have you then no one will....
According to http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Joanna-Parents-tearful-goodbye/article-3043420-detail/article.html
"After laying flowers they had an emotional hug with Greg, 27, Miss Yeates brother Chris and his girlfriend.
They then walked a further 200 yards up the lane to the exact spot where she was found, which is sealed off for forensic examinations.
The group walked back down the hill 10 minutes later, with Mrs Yeates clasping a tissue to her face as the tears spilled down her cheeks."
When facing the quarry entrance, would uphill be to the right, and downhill to the left?
I doubt that she entered a car without shoes and a coat, neither of which were found with her. We have heard about the missing sock and pizza, but not about shoes and a coat ... so I'm going to assume that she left the flat without shoes and a coat - at least until there is information to suggest otherwise. I think we have to be careful not to insert information that we don't have.
I think it's highly likely that she opened the door to someone. It could be someone posing as a Christmas gift delivery person, or perhaps someone that she thought she recognized. I think she was over-powered and taken away from the flat. I think that if she was murdererd in the flat, the perp would have run away. I have considered the possibility that the boyfriend was involved, as removing the body from the scene cane be consistent with spousal homicides ... where the husband/boyfriend removes the body to make it appear as though something happened while the victim was out. However, so far there does not seem to be any building evidence against the boyfriend. We have not heard that he called his brother to say that he would be delayed by several hours, or that he said he would not be visiting and then arrived very late ... all of which would be expected if the boyfriend returned to the flat around 9 PM. I don't think the 9:20 text friend was involved, as his cell phone most likely places him at the party at 9:20 and with friends later.
Jo was left on the verge of Longwood Lane – one of the first roads without houses a driver leaving Bristol in this direction will reach. It is 50 yards south of an entrance to a quarry, which would have been a more sensible and less noticeable place to pull over.
This suggests Jo was dumped in the middle of the night when the road was deserted, but the darkness meant the killer missed several better spots nearby to conceal her body properly.
Barely 50 yards from where dog walkers found her there is a gap in the wall leading into woods.
Opposite the floral tributes there is a gap between a wall and a fence at the quarry face. If you are strong enough to get a body into a car it will not take much more effort to get it in the gap. If Jo had been left there it is quite possible she would not have been found for years.
Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...icked-after-unplanned-murder-115875-22818569/