GUILTY UK - Kayleigh Haywood, 15, Ibstock, Leicestershire, 13 November 2015 - #1

[hippy hippy]

SB's Other Interests on fb profile include Biggest Tarts in..... And also a children's dance group with photos. Just saying.

 

[YidArmyRach]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kayleigh-haywoods-heartbroken-mum-says-6859092


A body was found in Sence Valley Forest Park in Ibstock, Leicestershire at around 10pm on Wednesday evening.


there is a lot more at the link, but I dont want to paste it up here, it is family comment.

I've had a break from WS since Becky's case, so am late to this.

My son actually told me about Kayleigh's case a couple of days ago - I hadn't heard anything about it, and we live just 10 miles from Ibstock. I guess the national news was flooded with stories relating to the Paris attacks and was easy to miss.

Such horrible news - another teenager's life stolen from her. Makes you want to keep your children locked up till they are 21

 

[Insp.Dots]

I thought that when I saw LH was a big horror fan but where does SB then fit into it?

Probably his van used to move the body. I noticed somewhere it said LH couldnt drive!

 

[mrazda71]

Have to say, I'm quite disturbed by the comments from Stephen's siblings (not just the grammar and spelling) ...

 

[YidArmyRach]

Schoolgirl Kayleigh Haywood disappeared after going to see man she met on Facebook


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/schoolgirl-kayleigh-haywood-disappeared-after-6851551

We've just moved to this area (not far from Ibstock) and I must admit, my 14 year old son's new school has been brilliant with their child safety/social media awareness so far. He's only been at the school for 3 months, but has had many lessons on this - including films and case studies of incidents where children have used social media to meet strangers and have had bad experiences. He has been chatting to me a lot about what he had been taught and he was shocked at some of the stories told.

Sadly, this case looks like it could be the next real life story they use.

 

[pappa rob]

This is sickening. I can't believe this WTH do these dumb@sses think they're doing?

 

[Insp.Dots]

Where did you see this?

Just put SB and LH into the search bar on Facebook and scroll down, it brings up all public posts they are mentioned in!

 

[Insp.Dots]

I'm curious as to why the police were specifically asking for sightings between Saturday afternoon and Monday early.
"Were you in the Diseworth or Belton areas between Saturday afternoon and Monday morning, did you see anyone or any vehicles acting suspiciously?

What about from 6 pm Friday until Saturday afternoon? Do they know it all until that time?

Maybe they can tell by computers or phone signals that they were in their houses on the friday night & Saturday Morning. Then when clothes were found in those areas Police expanded the search area. I have a feeling that there is plenty of evidence behind the scenes for these two. I hope they get Whole Life but realistically they will be back on the streets in 15years!

 

[Alyce]

Maybe they can tell by computers or phone signals that they were in their houses on the friday night & Saturday Morning. Then when clothes were found in those areas Police expanded the search area. I have a feeling that there is plenty of evidence behind the scenes for these two. I hope they get Whole Life but realistically they will be back on the streets in 15years!

Although at least one of them has form, so wont be able to claim the never been in trouble before tag that NM and SH had.

 

[skibaboo]

[video=twitter;667288400542625792]https://twitter.com/RWindscheffel/status/667288400542625792[/video]

Rob WindscheffelVerified account ‏@RWindscheffel 39m39 minutes ago
Forensic teams carry out their work at the scene where the body of Kayleigh Haywood was found

 

[mrazda71]

Although at least one of them has form, so wont be able to claim the never been in trouble before tag that NM and SH had.

Yup - assault on someone's Dad?

 

[Tortoise]

Although at least one of them has form, so wont be able to claim the never been in trouble before tag that NM and SH had.

ooh, haven't heard this. what do you know about it Alyce?

 

[Tortoise]

Yup - assault on someone's Dad?

how did this news emerge?

 

[skibaboo]

^^According to FB chatter. Which is of course rumour

 

[Edinlass]

ooh, haven't heard this. what do you know about it Alyce?

Me either Alyce, let us know. You are a brilliant sleuther I must say

 

[skibaboo]

His Fb may have gone but his twitter is still up for now https://twitter.com/TheLukeHarlow

 

[Alyce]

His Fb may have gone but his twitter is still up for now https://twitter.com/TheLukeHarlow

He also has another twitter - ( older one by the looks of it )

https://twitter.com/luke_harlow


and his Instagram is still up, cant remember the link now, someone posted it on here earlier today

 

[skibaboo]

He also has another twitter - ( older one by the looks of it )

https://twitter.com/luke_harlow


and his Instagram is still up, cant remember the link now, someone posted it on here earlier today

His instagram is gone for me https://instagram.com/harlowluke/

 

[Insp.Dots]

I'm not criticising your impressions, we all see different things. But my impression was way too many pics with tarted up girls in late teens and early 20s, and while I don't like to be 'lookist' it seemed suspicious to me. Being into horror films is normal, but the obsession with the masks along with the 'sell my soul to the devil' remark put up red flags to me. It also bothered me that he was photographed with a girl who looked so much like Kayleigh, though probably the one he was with was a few years older, but same hair and hairstyle and very similar facial features.

And without being 'loner-ist' the other guy had a shifty sound to him, the sort of feel I associate with paedophiles...someone with problems interacting with people and prone to living out their desires and obscene fantasies by force. I don't feel this way about all loners, some are just shy and private people and there's nothing wrong with that.

On the other hand I already knew there was a teenage girl missing when I saw LH's profile, and it was a day later in the search that I found SB's profile so all of that might have coloured my impressions. If it wasn't for that, then I probably wouldn't think too much about either of them, but when you add in the knowledge of a missing teenage girl then it all seemed to add up to a horrible complete picture. But before a crime has been committed, every criminal and sicko had a life in which they hadn't committed a crime..they were the same person but without having actually done the deed which no one knew was in their future. I am not a believer in the ability to 100% foretell who is going to 'do something bad', I think seeing things with 20/20 hindsight gives some people the impression that is possible, but I don't believe it really is possible. Even these guys, if they are guilty, could have avoided this situation and gone through their lives doing nothing 'bad'....but *if* they are guilty, for them everything came together over the weekend and the nightmare possibility became a horrible reality that they chose not to walk away from.

Facebook is a very complicated beast, which we are all still learning about. I know so many adults who don't know how to ensure their stuff is private, and teenage posts shine through with naivety on there, following the crowd, being scared and the inability to tell real from fake...then add in that they can make their profile private and only share some posts with their parents and older relatives but share totally different things with their friends just from a single profile...and the ones who aren't savvy enough to do that can just make a second profile.

It also bothers me that FB's financial motivations often lead it to push people into not learning about the privacy options and not taking advantage of them. Something that someone only intended to share with a few family and friends can now be found via the search function or viewed in the sidebar by mutual friends. In this case there are a number of mutual friends between the victim and at least one of the guys who's being questioned...that's going to complicate the warnings of "don't go off with strangers" .... because this wasn't a total stranger, it was someone who lived locally and was known to people she knew. I would not like to be a parent in this world of FB and internet messaging and kids with their own mobile phones talking away to God knows who in private and receiving and sending God knows what kind of images and photos, and I am internet savvy and I do know how to set up my FB to be as private as I can get it, and that just scares me even more, because I also know how easy it is to hide things if you want to (from parents) but also how easy it is to find things that the naive have done in the belief that they were covering their tracks.

:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:

Totally agree with every word. I also see KH has many Brother's and Sister's, some much younger. Sadly I suspect she was looking for some attention (THIS IS IN NO-WAY SAYING SHE WASN'T LOVED BY HER FAMILY) and wanted to be 'grown-up'...the way they see of proving this is by finding an older boyfriend. Enter LH (I think we will hear that SB was the 'driver' and aide) with lots of 'nice' comments, then suddenly we see 'posed' photo's and pouting. It makes me cringe when I see these type of photo's. They are a paedophiles paradise. I wish Facebook and twitter were made to take responsibility and make 'child accounts' Only allow Public posts for over 18's. The rest must be verified somehow!

 

[Tortoise]

Well I don't suppose we'll hear much more about this until it comes to trial. Wouldn't have thought they'll release info such as cause of death, just that she has been identified and who has been charged, when it happens.